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This actually had less editorializing and bad statistics than I thought it would. But where is their logic when they cite the fact that murders are waaaay down--why? Because the bad guys are locked up for longer these days...
1 posted on 01/15/2006 5:43:40 AM PST by Pharmboy
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How many people reading this this morning will follow the Slimes logic and conclude that "illegal" guns just aren't illegal enough?


2 posted on 01/15/2006 5:48:57 AM PST by raybbr (ANWR is a barren, frozen wasteland - like the mind of a democrat!)
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The real crime here is where they try to tie the guns to other states by using the "where the guns were last sold" line.

A firearm purchaser in Pennsylvania goes through the same background check as a firearms purchaser in California. If the buyer comes up clean, the sale goes through.

If that firearm is stolen in a robbery and then sold on the streets of NY (or used in a crime), that is not Pennsylvania's fault.

But liberals doe not care about facts....its all about feel good legislation that increases their power over the people.


3 posted on 01/15/2006 5:49:37 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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These 'statistics' are as useless as the one that would prove that a majority of gun crimes in NYC, or for that matter a majority of all crimes in NYC, were committed by people with brown eyes and black hair. And a sub grouping of that statistic would prove that of these criminals, English was their second language.

Wait... on 2nd thought.......

4 posted on 01/15/2006 5:59:51 AM PST by Condor51 (The above comment is time sensitive - don't BUG ME an hour from now.)
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Building the case for a national ban.


5 posted on 01/15/2006 6:08:57 AM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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... the problem of illegal guns on the city’s streets

More important is the problem of criminals on the city's sidewalks.

10 posted on 01/15/2006 6:22:26 AM PST by catpuppy
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There is also a strong correlation between where shootings occur and where guns are recovered.

Einstein Award candidate.

11 posted on 01/15/2006 6:24:08 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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They are not illegal guns...they are migrant guns!


13 posted on 01/15/2006 6:35:06 AM PST by Cyclops08
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He is just following the lead of the far left,gun grabbing, for the murder of unborn babies and for queer marriage Rudy.
Rudy screamed worse than Dean about Florida selling guns.
14 posted on 01/15/2006 6:37:24 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (“Don't approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the back, or a Fool from any side.”)
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Morons!

A full auto AR-15 is an illegal weapon, a Baretta 9mm semi-auto is not. But the guy holding it is committing an illegal act. Only when the Dems start putting the blame where it belongs, on the criminals, will they ever figure it out.

Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

God bless our troops wherever they may be.

18 posted on 01/15/2006 6:55:36 AM PST by JusticeTalion (Vulcan's never bluff.)
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My goodness - charts, graphs, statistics, maps; everything but the kitchen sink... all calculated deliberately to avoid arriving at the starkly obvious conclusion that firearms are already (all but) illegal, and thus criminals have them and the law-abiding do not - so that the latter cannot defend themselves either against robbery or assault.

Kinda reminds one of the Village Idiot who exerted himself mightily, twisting and thrashing with all his strength, to stand on his head in the town square and whistle "Yankee Doodle" out his butt in order to "prove" that human beings don't speak with their mouths, tongues, and vocal cords.

If Bloomberg would make firearms readily available to the law-abiding, his "gun problem" would go away in a matter of months - but it seems he'd rather stand on his head in the town square. Well, perhaps it's more fun than rational behavior, after all; he certainly gets more attention that way than he would by thinking clearly and acting responsibly.


19 posted on 01/15/2006 6:56:34 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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--b--


23 posted on 01/15/2006 7:28:24 AM PST by rellimpank (Don't believe anything about firearms or explosives stated by the mass media---NRABenefactor)
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Those maps and charts show the absolute numbers of illegal guns and shootings. If such guns and shootings are evenly distributed among the population, then the dark areas would simply be the higher population districts. This would show a "correlation" between illegal guns and shootings where no causation exists.
26 posted on 01/15/2006 7:59:28 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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The problem of illegal guns is basically that they've made guns illegal.

Arm everyone, lockup or hang the bad guys. Its what the founders intended.


27 posted on 01/15/2006 8:29:57 AM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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If you were to take those maps and then superimpose maps of drug trafficking, I would imagine they would be nearly an exact match.


32 posted on 01/15/2006 3:25:11 PM PST by dirtboy (My new years resolution is to quit using taglines...)
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Is it really that bad?

Fewer crimes, more complaints in city's toughest precinct

"In the last year, under Operation Trident, the results in the 75th have been dramatic: 100 fewer cars were stolen compared to 2004, 125 fewer people were robbed, 91 fewer places were burglarized, and there were 75 fewer felony assaults.

"I think it's been a tremendous success," Kelly told reporters recently. "We've gotten very positive feedback from the community. The program has worked well for us."

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/nyc-prof0108,0,7329895.story?coll=nyc-homepage-mezzbox


37 posted on 01/16/2006 3:29:48 AM PST by endthematrix (None dare call it ISLAMOFACISM!)
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