Posted on 01/15/2006 4:00:20 PM PST by armydawg1
LMAO!
The veterans are the ones who are convinced he's lied about his medals. You don't honestly believe the RNC should be in the business of investigating the validity of military medals do you?
Republican opponents, with the weight of funding and investigative services at their fingertips have tried to prove that Murtha's medals are not honestly earned. They have been unsuccessful.
I've never seen such overblown emotionalism on an issue that we barely disagree on in my entire life. I want to handle Murtha on something current. You want to go back 40 years on something that no one has successfully been able to do. Go for it. Good luck.
You asked how you lied about my posts. See Post #394, italicized items -- the first and third. Glad you think being caught in a lie is a laughing matter.
Bananas.
I may be a fruit, honey, but you're a liar.
Totally Bananas!
"You think Murtha should be handled one way. I think he should be handled another way. That doesn't mean he shouldn't be handled and exposed. And I am not the one who started attacking anyone on this thread. So let's agree to disagree."
posted on 01/18/2006 1:41:42 PM PST
#1. Isn't the rule if you mention a freeper's name in a post, that freeper should be pinged? I have never mentioned you by name; if, however, by implication you should have been pinged, I apologize and will see that in the future, you are pinged. Although I admit, I have a hard time remember the numbers in your name.
#2. I proposed a truce. I did not see you accept it. I expected a response from you.
#3. If you have accepted it, that is the end. If you have not, it will continue. It's pretty simple.
"#2. I proposed a truce. I did not see you accept it. I expected a response from you."
I did repond to your post
Oh, I didn't see that post. So sorry. Thank you and I will tell him.
Now that that is out the way and before I put on my Troll hat for the first time on the Free Republic, if I am ZOTTED Tonk please give my best to Kathy in Alaska, Race Bannon, Pookie18, all the Marines here, and Dewey Johnson's daughter (Race knows her)
I have truly enjoyed my time here.
Your basic DU troll is a monument to adage that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Such rank amateurs deserve every Zot they get. A real Troll thrives upon exposing hypocrisy where ever it exist on the Internet. This is done a couple of different ways, by being a target of all that read their posts or by targeting directly the hypocrisy of all the posts around them.
As an example I will put on my troll hat and make myself the practice target by illustrating logic carried out to an illogical extreme to expose hypocrisy, like so.
"If it is disgraceful for the republican party to attack Muthra on his award records, it is even more disgraceful for Vets to attack those same records."
(Standard disclaimer:That last sentence was written as a troll and is not how I feel, in fact it is the complete opposite of what I believe.
As any liberal will tell you if you can get them to shut up about Bush long enough to get a word in edgewise, Muthra supports the troops SO Vets must support Muthra.
Does anyone here need that small bit Sarcasm explained to them? )
"Vets cannot attack Col. Muthra's records because frankly they did not serve with him in Viet Nam."
(Standard disclaimer:That last sentence was written as a troll and is not how I feel, in fact it is the complete opposite of what I believe.
We've heard this one before, its the old "you did not serve under me ergo you cannot judge my actions or words" defence.)
"If they do, then they risk bring shame upon all other members of the military by their actions."
(Standard disclaimer: That last sentence was written as a troll and is not how I feel, in fact it is the complete opposite of what I believe.
Never mind that the actions and words of Muthra are shameful to the point of being treasonous, if you attack him or the basis upon which he claims credibility you are even more shameful than anything that he says or does.
Quite frankly that concept has always escaped any logic I've tried to assign to it.
And I have really tried to do so.)
"Congressman Muthra must be allowed to say whatever he wants because that is the American way."
(Standard disclaimer: That last sentence was written as a troll and is not how I feel, in fact it is the complete opposite of what I believe.
Well maybe not the complete opposite, I do know that we have laws that prevent slander, and libel as well as laws that cover sedition and treasonous statements.
Basically as a public figure you can't say what ever you want, and there are lines that cannot be crossed, and laws that can be broken
and I also believe that The Democrats will continue to cross those lines of slander libel and treason until such time as someone in the government decides they have said and done enough.
I eagerly await that day,
but believe we should do more to bring it about.)
"With our young men and women engaged in Combat operations it would be a disgraceful crime for Veterans to attack Congressman Muthra."
(Standard disclaimer: That last sentence was written as a troll and is not how I feel, in fact it is the complete opposite of what I believe.
When I was a Young Marine one of my former units HMH-461 was tasked with being part of the attempted rescue of our hostages in Iran. Marines I knew and flew with died in the attempt, needless to say the finger pointing and political rhetoric that followed was enough to make me say " I wish someone would shut these @#$%^&'s up."
I suspect that Muthra isn't the only one our troops in Iraq want to shut up, so what if anything does that have to do with Vets, Republicans and Muthra.
Well the collective sigh of relief that would come from our troops when someone does shut up Muthra is worth a ZOT for me, which is why I'm writing this to urge Vets and republicans alike to do this for them, because the longer he continues the more they are going to be hurt.)
Funny, while I was driving home I thought I had a few more. It's a long drive and I have no radio so I think things out.
Let's review a few things:
Logically if it is wrong for republicans to say anything about Muthra's statements, record or awards, then it follows that it is equally wrong for Veterans to do the same.
Or anyone else for that matter.
This same logic does not apply to Democrats since they are immune to logic and devoid of it as well
They are creatures of pure emotions,
(and to think I just wrote that without a red star fleet ensign shirt on.)
These are the basic principles that allows Muthra to say whatever he wants and to do things like cozy up to Code Pink and perform unnatural acts.
The democrats know this and count on it and use it to protect themselves while making all their outrageous statements these days.
and those of you that want to do something about it need to decide what is worth more, your dignity, your pride, your honor, "the party" or the lives of our men and women serving in uniform.
For me at least it is a no brainer.
I'd crawl through a river of crap for my fellow Marines,
I did so in Boot Camp a long long time ago.
It can be washed off.
They are creatures of pure emotions,
LOL!!!
:)
Great post!
Thank you for your service and sacrifice!
ms.B
I'm here for the long haul Brother.
You see I'm one of those who was exactly where hanoi kerry was in 68-69
I was also on active duty when murtha was.
I took a vow to the Brothers and Sisters on the Wall
when hanoi kerry announced he was running for
President.
I VOW to the 58,000 + Brothers and Sisters on
The Viet Nam Wall who never came home
and to those who died at home from injuries and
from broken hearts.
"I will do everything I LEGALLY can
to expose Hanoi Kerry once and for all.
I will not tire, I will not falter,
and I will not fail.
I solemnly vow to do all I can to restore your honor
until I give my last breath on earth."
I doubt Jim Robinson would ban you for speaking your mind.
He's a Viet Nam Vet and knows the score.
IF you do get banned or suspended it will be from
the same crowd that got me suspended Saturday
because I spoke my mind in FReep Mail.
My e-mail is tonkin817@gmail.com
IF you do get banned or suspended.
And Thank YOU for your service to our country.
SEMPER FI from an old tin can sailor
What!!!!!!???
You got suspended Saturday??
Oh Tonk..
Why?
Ms.B
Well..
Isn't THAT cute?
Sheesh..
They should either have the courage of their convictions..
Or just shut up..
The fact that it was done behind the scenes, speaks volumnes.
Ms.B
I read the whole thread, Peach..
Here's what I find detestable..
I hate to say this...
But this ISN'T ABOUT YOU..
and don't you go attacking me about the GOP thing either..
I am married to a Republican...
He is the Captain of The Patriot Riders In Maine..
We fight like hell for the Troops..
But we also know, that Troop support means we honor them ALL
That being said...
We LOVE our Troops..and so should you..
I am SICK of your whining...
My GOD woman.
How many Military Funerals have you BEEN to?
Well, I have been to plenty..
I tell you now, that this fight you insist on keeping..
Has me between tears and rage...
Enough!
Don't you think the Troops have enough to deal with, day to day?
Must they come here and see you defending YOURSELF, instead of THEM?
Okay, You're PO'D..
You have gotten your attention..
Now shut up about it!
Ms.B
We were in Maine on rural medical tour. Biddeford. The most relaxing, beautiful place I've ever been.
We look forward to getting back there for vacation.
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