A) Just seeing his mug on the news leads people to conclusions...which I haven't drawn any yet, but none the less its all over the news.
B)I know about less about these candidates than any of you guys do, but it doesn't matter since I can't vote for any of them.
C)I haven't followed why DeLay is in whatever he's in and for what...
D) If I had 'fallen' for whatever, I would have posted a "DeLay is an SOB" thread and not asked for astute political commentary from freeperland. Lets just say I am using freeperville to its potential with this one with the sole purpose of learning about what I haven't followed.
With all that being said, I wanted to get the minds together and tell me, a bystander, what they think.
So far, the consensus is a few people
1. think DeLay is a good Rep for the most part on political positions, but has had 'lapses' in ethics and has an old boy network. They are just as disenchanted with some of the local workings and bloodletting politics as they are with the supposed 'ethics' charges.
Positions on issues haven't really come up because everyone says about the same thing. However the only quote I could locate from Campbell says that the party as a whole could suffer if we don't demand the best from representatives. In my opinion thats on the level no matter what political race we're talking about. That doesn't declare anyone guilty in my book though.
2. The other side says, the charges are trumped up and nothing is wrong with DeLay. They say the left hates him so they targeted him mainly because he is an effective leader that gets things done. Merely because he has been in their face he gets targeted.
So far so good?
As pointed out above, almost everyone except DeLay are unknowns. They have a long way to go before the election.
MY question is though, is what IF something comes to fruition regarding DeLay? So far those in group 2 dismiss it outright. Me, I think its a fair question.
To me that doesn't make me anti-DeLay nor pro-anyone else. I can sing DeLay's praises too. I can also see the logic in not giving in to the media crowd or those who otherwise hate DeLay.
Just based on responses here though it sounds almost like a 'vast left wing conspiracy' standpoint...but there is almost a universal denial of anything wrong. To that I say there is logic in putting DeLay up like that, but there is also danger in doing it as well.
Like I said above, the Democrats aren't seeking for DeLay's seat... they are seeking everyone else's.
None the less, he's in a world of hurt, guilty or not.
My point is, it might be astute to look at both sides because few are angels in Washington DC.
B)I know about less about these candidates than any of you guys do, but it doesn't matter since I can't vote for any of them.
C)I haven't followed why DeLay is in whatever he's in and for what...
See, here's the problem: You claim to know essentially nothing, you haven't followed it, and you can't even vote in his district. Yet you have devoted a thread and a whole lotta posts to try to "find out" what freepers think. Excuse me if I get a strange whiff from the whole thing. Good luck.
Regards,
LH
DeLay hasn't really been accused of anything unethical. The criminal indictments basically allege that he circumvented Texas campaign rules by masterminding the shuffling of money between accounts, but he isn't accused of actually writing the checks. And he isn't accused of lining his own pockets. The money went to Texas candidates running for office.
If he did anything wrong, and I don't think he did, it was on behalf of other GOP candidates. GOP voters are unlikely to punish him for that.
The other murky allegations involve the fact that he associated with a lobbyist who got into trouble. There is no allegation that DeLay did anything improper with him, but it's somehow assumed that he's guilty by association. At least as of now, there's nothing there at all. Something will have to materialize before the primary date for DeLay's supporters to cast him aside.
Tom Campbell may be a heck of a nice guy, but nobody knows him. Unless he can raise several hundred thousand dollars to mount a serious ad campaign, he won't stand a chance. The free publicity he's gotten on this thread isn't going to be nearly enough.