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New cold medicine law goes into effect in NC [Register your Sudafed!]
News 14 Carolina ^ | 1/15/2006 1:38 PM | Staff

Posted on 01/16/2006 7:50:48 AM PST by TaxRelief

WAKE FOREST, N.C. --North Carolina started enforcing its new law intended to stop the spread of methamphetamine labs on Sunday.

Since 1999 the number of meth labs in the state has skyrocketed. Then the State Bureau of Investigation busted nine labs; in 2005 they discovered 328 of them.

As of Jan. 15 you must be at least 18, show photo ID and sign a log if you want to by over-the-counter cold medicines such as Sudafed and Tylenol Cold. Both medicines contain either pseudoephedrine or ephedrine, which are key ingredients used to make meth.

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Under the new law you can only buy two packages of cold medicine containing pseudoephedrine or ephedrine at a time, and only three packages in a 30-day period.


TOPICS: Government; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; bang; bigbrother; coldmedicine; meth; privacyrights; substanceabuse; sudafed
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To: SheLion

When I was a cashier at Walmart there was a company limit. I don't know how many customers I had to tell there was a limit. It was obvious that they and their children was sick and not using the stuff to make drugs.

I made the mistake of letting a friend of a customer buy a package one time. Me and other cashiers didn't know that the registars sends e-mails to management if there is two separate Sudifed transactions in a row. Luckly we just got a written warning but I am sure there is employees fired for trying to help customers that they know isn't abusing the stuff.


141 posted on 01/16/2006 10:38:56 AM PST by Swiss
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To: TaxRelief
I have already told everyone in the family never to go to the pharmacy without buying the maximum.

And I will be filing a suitcase with sudafed every time I leave the state.
They haven't instituted customs controls at the borders. . . yet.

Winter or summer we will just build up a stash in the freezer to get us through the bad weather.

142 posted on 01/16/2006 10:48:30 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: southernerwithanattitude
They have to get a handle on this meth stuff! Its the same way here in Georgia, they are busting labs all over the place. It reminds me of the moonshine days where you couldn't buy large amounts of sugar at one time.

Any you really think this will help?

There are a few chemical engineering geniuses who are dopers. Every time in the last 30 years the Feds have cracked down on some ingredient in making meth, it has inspired them to come up with an even easier and cheaper method of making it without the 'crucial' ingredient.

In a year dopers won't be using Sudafed, meth will be more common and cheaper than ever, and cold sufferers will still be suffering from government stupidity.

So9

143 posted on 01/16/2006 10:53:04 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: MeanWestTexan

You are correct. But the states have taken their lead from the federal government. Every state in the union has far overstepped it's constitutional boundaries.


144 posted on 01/16/2006 10:59:13 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
We use sudafed regularly in our household, but because of the size of my family, I can easily see where I might be over my "quota" allowed. What am I supposed to do then?

Go to Walgreens and get 2 boxes, then go to Walmart and get 2 more. Simple.

145 posted on 01/16/2006 10:59:27 AM PST by houeto (Mr. President, close our borders now!)
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To: Swiss
I made the mistake of letting a friend of a customer buy a package one time. Me and other cashiers didn't know that the registars sends e-mails to management if there is two separate Sudifed transactions in a row. Luckly we just got a written warning but I am sure there is employees fired for trying to help customers that they know isn't abusing the stuff.

I am so upset about this.  I have used Sudafed for a long time for sinuses.  And it's the little people that suffer because our damn government can't control drug pushers.

And you know darn well the drug pushers will continue to get this stuff while we who really need it cannot.  What a world.

146 posted on 01/16/2006 11:18:38 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: TaxRelief

http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/051120/meth.shtml

the law took effect july 1st dummy and yes we have seen a massive positive effect


147 posted on 01/16/2006 11:29:43 AM PST by jneesy (certified southern right wing hillbilly nutjob)
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To: Servant of the 9

"In a year dopers won't be using Sudafed, meth will be more common and cheaper than ever, and cold sufferers will still be suffering from government stupidity."

BINGO.


148 posted on 01/16/2006 11:30:19 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: TaxRelief

The first step would be for Libertarians to become a major player on the political scene. Do not hold your breath waiting for that to occur.


149 posted on 01/16/2006 11:38:28 AM PST by verity (The MSM is a National disgrace.)
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To: All
I'm wondering how many of those complaining have been strong supporters of the War On Drugs.

Mmmmmmm?

150 posted on 01/16/2006 11:40:37 AM PST by zeugma (Warning: Self-referential object does not reference itself.)
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To: Servant of the 9
They already have. See the post about it coming from Mexico.
151 posted on 01/16/2006 11:53:43 AM PST by southernerwithanattitude (new and improved redneck)
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To: gondramB
...when a drug is abusable..

      And which drug, pray tell, is not abusable?  Or, which substance is not abusable? 

152 posted on 01/16/2006 12:18:10 PM PST by Celtman (It's never right to do wrong to do right.)
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To: TaxRelief

More liberties surrendered to keep people from getting high. And this will be as successful as every other measure taken in the failed war on some drugs.


153 posted on 01/16/2006 12:22:56 PM PST by mysterio
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To: gondramB

"But to me it seems like a better choice than making them prescription only which is the other thing you do when a drug is abusable."

People can get "high" using rope or plastic bags. These folks frequently end up dead from suffocation (witnesss: lead singer of INXS).

Need ropes and plastic bags be regulated, too?

You can't regulate morality. Idiots are idiots.


154 posted on 01/16/2006 12:27:12 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: jneesy

The law takes effect January 15, 2006.

It's no surprise that you posted a bum link.


155 posted on 01/16/2006 2:03:10 PM PST by TaxRelief
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To: TaxRelief; Wolfie

I think this is good in the long run. Stupid laws like this will turn more and more people against the War on Some Drugs. Please keep passing these idiotic laws!


156 posted on 01/16/2006 2:09:34 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: jneesy
it was the local "redneck chemists" who saw a chance at an easy buck

Redneck meth labs don't produce enough for a massive profit. They do it in order to make enough to cover the costs and have some free for themselves.

157 posted on 01/16/2006 2:14:38 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: MeanWestTexan; Celtman
"Need ropes and plastic bags be regulated, too? "

Actually I don't think most recreational should be illegal but heroin, cocaine and meth are exceptions.


I don't have an opinion on psudofed being behind the counter - law enforcement seems better able to judge how often they are finding pseudo-fed at meth labs and whether or not there is an easy substitute - my comment was that of the to ways they could intervene I much prefer it being behind a counter to actually being made controlled.
158 posted on 01/16/2006 5:12:36 PM PST by gondramB (Democracy: two wolves and a lamb voting on lunch. Liberty: a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Sir Gawain

You give these weasels far too much credit to refer to them as chemists. Most I have dealt with (professionally) can barely read and are lucky not to get themselves blown up in their (so called )"labs".


159 posted on 01/16/2006 5:19:32 PM PST by Lawdoc
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To: Servant of the 9
In a year dopers won't be using Sudafed, meth will be more common and cheaper than ever,

Economics suggests that if there were an easier, cheaper synthetic path with available ingredients, they'd be using it now.

The pseudoephedrine-to-meth synthesis is the most direct; it uses a variant of the Birch Reduction to reduce the -OH group on sudofed- that is all it takes.

The "superlabs" use a more complicated path involving hydroiodic acid and a phenyl ketone nicknamed P2K. The components of the P2K path are already difficult to get.

There are only a few economical ways to synthesize meth.

Likewise MDMA (Extacy)- once it became nearly impossible to get saffrole in the USA, domestic availability of E went down and it all comes from overseas now, where saffrole can be more readily obtained.

The difference between the two methods is described here

160 posted on 01/16/2006 6:23:33 PM PST by DBrow
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