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To: familyop

"That kind of rhetoric comes from reading too many civilian, leftist conjecture sites. You don't know the sum of current Israeli nuclear capability, and you're dreaming about what the Islamist regimes can do. If they could have done it, they would have done it by now.

Your straw men aside, Israel will be protected from nuclear strikes (or are you in the dark on the state of anti-ballistic missile defense, too?).

What's Eurabia going to do?"


The estimates are what is believed by intelligence agencies around the world. The arsenal cannot be all that much more than the high end of the estimate unless plutonium is growing on trees in Israel.

Also, don't call these nuts "my strawmen." I am not rooting for these people to destroy Israel. I am just telling you that it is a possibility. I am telling you that you should not underestimate your enemies. I was also pointing out the realistic fact that Israel cannot destroy all of its enemies. This is a fact. You have an unrealistic perception of Israeli military power. You also have a childish way of looking at the world that is evident in your suggestions that Israel can solve all of its problems nuking its neighbors. They would probably end up killing themselves with all of the fallout considering many of it's enemies are on its border.

Don't get angry because I observe the reality that Israel is not capable defeating Iran singlehandedly. It is my opinion and the opinion of many other informed people. 200 nukes could hit Iran and the country would be really messed up to say the least, but their psycho president would not mind because he is just that crazy. On the other hand, 5 nukes could literally wipe out Israel's entire population because it is a small densely populated nation. It is just a fact. I don't want it to happen.

And on the issue of anti-ballistic missle systems, they aren't going to stop a nuclear bomb on a truck. They might not even be able to stop a missle. It is new technology that hasn't been tested in a real scenario. It certainly could not stop a large scale missle attack, although that isn't an immediate threat unless Iran is further ahead than we think. And as much as you hate "Eurabia" as you call it, you should thank France for Israel's nuclear arsenal, because that is who sold them the equipment to start that program.



http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/

Here is an estimate of the arsenal from a non-leftist conjecture site


229 posted on 01/18/2006 7:14:58 AM PST by Johnnyboy2000 (Give it all up tomorrow to live in world without crime, and go back to the circuit riding motocross)
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To: Johnnyboy2000
"The estimates are what is believed by intelligence agencies around the world."

That's funny and megalomaniacal. You're not in the loop with "intelligence agencies around the world," and the FAS is one of the sites that I was referring to.

"...that Israel can solve all of its problems nuking its neighbors. They would probably end up killing themselves with all of the fallout considering many of it's enemies are on its border."

Try to join the military or find a fatherly teacher. Study leadership, tactics, weather patterns and a little about physics. The fallout wouldn't hurt Israel, and nearby targets can and will be taken care of conventionally. Hezbollah no longer has other military support in Lebanon. Try reading some real news instead of anti-American spews.

"It is my opinion and the opinion of many other informed people."

LOL! ...a shadow bandwagon.

"200 nukes could hit Iran and the country would be really messed up to say the least, but their psycho president would not mind because he is just that crazy. On the other hand, 5 nukes could literally wipe out Israel's entire population..."

..."200 nukes!" LOL! Your denials contradict your illusions about the capabilities of the nations you look up to.

Israel can knock anything that Iran can produce and launch at it out of the sky. And with very few nuclear weapons fired from Israel, the Iranian military and infrastructure would be stopped. And Iran's leaders would be dead. India eyeballing Pakistan as a cat would watch a mouse. Antagonistic, pagan Islamist nations have no effective nuclear offense and little more than millions of bodies for fertilizer to offer in any expanded conflict.

Iran's idolatrous leaders know that and won't cause any hasty move on our part with their ruse (ruse for the purpose of giving western Europe more cowardly excuses to blame us and more fully join them). But Iran is looking western Europe over for waves of ground terrorism while perpetuating a threat of nuclear exchange against countries there in the near future.

Even if Israel didn't exist (as you and your friends here obviously fantasize--see thread), Iran would begin to scare, extort and attack dhimmi western Europe.

Israel's tough. Western Europe's wimpy. What's western Europe going to do besides continuing to blame and try to keep the focus on the object of its hatred: the people of Israel and the USA?
235 posted on 01/18/2006 3:14:45 PM PST by familyop (Essayons)
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