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READERS WRITE: "Brokeback's" message worth considering [libertarian talking point]
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 1/17/06 | NORMAN RAVITCH

Posted on 01/17/2006 5:33:20 AM PST by madprof98

Theater officials in some communities are not showing the path-breaking "Brokeback Mountain," a movie rivaling in importance the post-World War II "Gentleman's Agreement," which took on polite but deadly anti-Semitism in the American elite.

It is not just about two gay cowboys. It is about how homophobia and hypocrisy force them to marry and have children instead of living the lives God and nature gave them. The results are tragic, not just for them but for those around them.

The target here is hypocrisy and self-appointed moralists who think they can tell us how to think, how to live, how to say happy holidays and how to interpret world events.

NORMAN RAVITCH, Savannah


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: faggotsuberalles; homosexualagenda; pudding
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To: madprof98
It is about how homophobia and hypocrisy force them to marry and have children

No libertarian would use the word 'force' this way.

21 posted on 01/17/2006 5:49:21 AM PST by Sloth (Macromelancholia -- The wistful desire to play those Flash games in advertising banners.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Yeah...what you said. Seems as though the fags just can't tolerate those of us who do not condemn them as humans, but seriously and overwhelmingly disapprove of their behavior. Basically, their sexual preferences and behavior seem to be seriously demented and the gay/lesbo/tranny group just aren't going to be satisfied with anything else than a constant effort to shove their preferred lifestyle in our face, down our throats, and behind our backs. We might as well too accept crack heads and pedophiles behavior as OK and the morally conscious should be more tolerant and understanding....yeah right! And there's a whole lot of other types of behaviors we could add to that list. It's simply a matter of choice as not to do something that is wrong and hurts (or puts a person at a high risk) the individual and society as a whole.

Hope the liberals really enjoy 'Humpback Hill' as another example of psychological decay with emphasis on them wanting people to accept perversion as OK.

22 posted on 01/17/2006 5:49:31 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: madprof98
It is not just about two gay cowboys. It is about how homophobia and hypocrisy force them to marry and have children instead of living the lives God and nature gave them.

In other words, the movie is homosexual propaganda.

23 posted on 01/17/2006 5:50:00 AM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: madprof98
The movie is nothing more than an attack on a cultural icon, the manly cowboy. It is the cinimatic equivalent of the Left going, "Oh yeah? Nayyya, nayyya, nayyya! You think you are so macho, Mr. Conservative! Well, here!". It is like whizzing on the flag: protected speech, but no real American would do it.
24 posted on 01/17/2006 5:52:23 AM PST by 50sDad (It's not "diversity" for you to steal my Christmas.)
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To: The Old Hoosier
In other words, the movie is homosexual propaganda.

It is a movie made by hetrophobes, those with irrational fears of normal people.

25 posted on 01/17/2006 5:52:56 AM PST by Always Right
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To: madprof98

A libertarian complaining that people are exercising their free will to (a) not show the movie in their private theatres, and (b) not spend their personal money to see the movie. Yeah, sure Norm, you're a libertarian.


26 posted on 01/17/2006 5:53:54 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: wagglebee
The Libertarian party is no good. All they do is take votes from Republicans.

Also, what about their sympathy for pedophilia (practically a reproduction strategy for the homosexuals)? It's certainly a party that I wouldn't support.

27 posted on 01/17/2006 5:54:32 AM PST by Stepan12
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To: 50sDad
The movie is nothing more than an attack on a cultural icon, the manly cowboy.

Precisely. The occupation was picked for a reason.

I think another assault it makes is on the concept of non-sexual manly friendship-- it seems that male friends must equal homosexual relationship to the gay agenda.

28 posted on 01/17/2006 5:55:19 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: siunevada

"that sheepherders shouldn't be called cowboys."

I noticed that, too. I wonder if true cowboys are more upset that these sheep herders are called cowboys.


29 posted on 01/17/2006 5:56:19 AM PST by rwa265 (The Promises of the Lord, I Will Proclaim Forever)
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To: 50sDad

You nailed it! Exactly what I thought when the movie first came out. An attack on another "American" Cultural Icon!


30 posted on 01/17/2006 5:56:22 AM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (New Jersey gets the corrupt government it deserves!)
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To: madprof98

"instead of living the lives God and nature gave them"

WTF? God doesn't make homos. Perverted lust makes homos.


31 posted on 01/17/2006 5:59:01 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: quantim

They just wanted to do something shocking and weird that hasn't been done before, so they thought, "What are the two most opposite things in the world?" "Oh yea! A queer and a cowboy!" "Let's make a movie about queer cowboys and see how many people we can make angry."


32 posted on 01/17/2006 6:00:15 AM PST by One Proud Son
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To: martin_fierro
Ms. Ravitch:


33 posted on 01/17/2006 6:00:24 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: madprof98

The BBM film script is a typical scenario lifted from the ambiguous but elite liaisons seen at any Hollywood cocktail/cocaine party or production office, and re-written as a trailer trash gay-vindication romance. Of course Hollywood, et al, loves the film: it's their story.


34 posted on 01/17/2006 6:01:05 AM PST by purpleland (Elegy 9/11/01 Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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To: atomicpossum

"I think another assault it makes is on the concept of non-sexual manly friendship-- it seems that male friends must equal homosexual relationship to the gay agenda."

The disgusting hideousness of all this is that people are starting to equate "couples" with sex rather than friendship or even family relationships. My sister and her adult daughter were in at the Harborfront in Baltimore last year when some idiotic, had to be flaming liberal woman told them they made a "cute" couple.

Offensive? Absolutely!!


35 posted on 01/17/2006 6:01:54 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: Stepan12
Also, what about their sympathy for pedophilia

I'm not a LP member, but I seem to be having trouble finding this in their platform. Please point it out.

36 posted on 01/17/2006 6:02:00 AM PST by Sloth (Macromelancholia -- The wistful desire to play those Flash games in advertising banners.)
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To: wagglebee

They believe in God when it is convenient.


37 posted on 01/17/2006 6:02:08 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: madprof98

Sodomy, pornography, open borders, drugs. That's Libertarianism in a nutshell.


38 posted on 01/17/2006 6:02:55 AM PST by Mojave
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To: madprof98

As this is but a letter to the editor, it is inappropriate to be overly critical. Nevertheless, there are several things to bear in mind:

1. Some people who refer to themselves as libertarian do so only in the sense of sexual behavior, and not in the sense of the full range of behavior to include working, saving and investment, gun ownership, the free exercise of religion, etc. A true libertarian wants the government out of our pocketbook as well as out of our bedroom.

2. Some people who refer to themselves as libertarian want individuals to be free not only of coercive force but also to be free of social approbation. They refer to people who choose, in their free association with others, to enter into relationships only with people whose fundamental values they approve, as religious moralists, and describe their choices in denigrating ways. True libertarians who respect all peaceful choices made by people.

3. Some people who refer to themselves as libertarians believe that nobody should bear the consequences of their choices, so that individuals can behave in whatever reckless manner they might choose, such as promiscious homosexual sex, and expect somebody else to pick up the tab. True libertarians believe that we will only discover what is good in a dynamic, ever-changing world, by a process of trial and error. Virtuous behavior does not need to be subsidized. And, decent, hard-working people, who join into wholesome relationships with others, and especially such people who bring children into the world and raise them with such values, these people will prosper in a free society.

4. Some people who refer to themselves as libertarians believe that individuals are not constrained by their past commitments because - after all - we live in an imperfect world and we can always find a reason why our past commitments were not fully-informed. You cannot trust such people. True libertarians believe that we should always respect the person, the privacy and the property of others, and we should always, always keep our word.

5. Finally, if I might distinguish a Christian from a true libertarian, Christians must go beyond the basically negative constraints of libertarianism, and show loving-kindness toward others. As Jesus loved us while we were still sinners, a Christian must initiate generousity toward others, especially the poor, without expectation of reward.


39 posted on 01/17/2006 6:04:20 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: Sloth

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/851109/posts?page=5#5


40 posted on 01/17/2006 6:04:47 AM PST by Mojave
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