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Doctors seek kitchen knife ban
http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=579102005 ^

Posted on 01/17/2006 1:22:45 PM PST by vrwc0915

Doctors seek kitchen knife ban EDWARD BLACK

Key points • Doctors claim long kitchen knives serve no purpose except as weapons • 55 out of 108 homicide victims in Scotland were stabbed last year • Police superintendents say a ban would be difficult to enforce

Key quote "Many assaults are impulsive, often triggered by alcohol or misuse of other drugs, and the long pointed kitchen knife is an easily available, potentially lethal weapon, particularly in the domestic setting" - Dr Emma Hern, writing in British Medical Journal

(Excerpt) Read more at news.scotsman.com ...


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To: Constitution Day

Henkels make a damn good knife! Mine are a collection of samples as the ex worked at a cutlery place. Seen the real nice ceramic knives? I want them, but they look fake. Deceptively dangerous.


51 posted on 01/17/2006 1:34:12 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (I'm doing the best I ever did, I'm doing the best that I can, now go away!)
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To: colorado tanker

"Probably don't know what a whole onion looks like".



To say nothing of fileting a flounder.


52 posted on 01/17/2006 1:34:16 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (MAY I DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP)
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To: vrwc0915

Wasn't there an Alfred Hitchcock episode where the wife kills her cheating husband with a frozen leg of lamb and then cooks the murder weapon to destroy the evidence. What's next? Outlaw leg of lamb?


53 posted on 01/17/2006 1:34:17 PM PST by 6SJ7
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To: vrwc0915

I thought this was from the Onion

What are they going to eat there? Mush?

Usualy weapons and commercial tools treaties and regs are aimed at advancing socialism, ie. you can't be a cook unless government approved coz the tools you use require government licensing.

Also weapons treaties are often shaped by the opponent so as to make sure he is in a favorable terrain in case of "disagreement" aka holocaust. Such treaties thus are meant to favor the type of arms to be restricted that the gov itself is bad at wielding and producing. Because the gov. hires morons which can't fight with knives, usualy it relies on assymetrics which the treaty is to fit.

The box cutter attack on US airliners on 911 (and the disproportionate ridiculous response of having to shoot down 200 people out of the sky coz we are incapable of letting pilots carry guns) are a direct result of such treaties which favor foreign enemies. We can't fight skillfuly with boxcutters, but mooslims know how to slit goats, thus they have the advantage.


54 posted on 01/17/2006 1:34:22 PM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: vrwc0915

did you ever try to cut a ham with a .44? Can't do it.


55 posted on 01/17/2006 1:34:23 PM PST by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: Maceman

"I guess these medics have never had to chop vegetables for a big meal."

Remember the phrase "all politics is local?"
This is a story from Scotland. They don't eat vegetables, or what they know as "rabbit food."
Highest cholesterol readings on Earth!!!


56 posted on 01/17/2006 1:34:28 PM PST by jjmcgo
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To: vrwc0915
Scottish Ninjas of death use only Ginsu Knives! And after hard day of violent Scottish Ninja action, it still cuts a tomato!


57 posted on 01/17/2006 1:34:34 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: Tenacious 1
Your reading it wrong. 55 or the 108 homicides were by stabbing with a sharp instrument. "Often" the instrument in those 55 murders was a kitchen knife.

I want to know the weapons in the other 53 murders. And since guns are banned over there, clearly none were guns.

58 posted on 01/17/2006 1:34:54 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: MineralMan
I use a 10" chef's knife for almost all my kitchen cutting chores,

Damn, I only have an 8". :(

59 posted on 01/17/2006 1:36:00 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (I'm doing the best I ever did, I'm doing the best that I can, now go away!)
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To: TChris
The doors need to be removed, so that their wittle fingers don't get pinched.

And they could climb up on the roof, jump off, and hurt themselves, so we'll need to dispense with that.

I think that the nanny state will not be happy until everyone is living in a foam-padded room.

60 posted on 01/17/2006 1:36:05 PM PST by wbill
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To: vrwc0915

About a year or so ago there was a story posted on FR about a guy in Great Britain who used a dessert spoon to kill somebody. I shudder to think of the mayhem he could have caused had he a more heavy tablespoon instead.


61 posted on 01/17/2006 1:37:14 PM PST by GSlob
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To: vrwc0915
This reads like something from Scrappleface but it is not a hoax.
62 posted on 01/17/2006 1:37:22 PM PST by robowombat
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To: Fierce Allegiance

I've seen the ceramic knives. Sweet!

They're expensive, but sharp as HELL. I'm afraid we'd break them somehow!


63 posted on 01/17/2006 1:37:44 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: wbill
I think that the nanny state will not be happy until everyone is living in a foam-padded room.

But...you might bite off a piece of foam and choke. This simply will not do!

64 posted on 01/17/2006 1:37:45 PM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: garyhope
You can't make this stuff up can you? Exactly how long or short a knife does it take to fatally stab someone? Is it just the point of a knife or the slicing part?

Well, the TSA did ban nail clippers.

65 posted on 01/17/2006 1:37:50 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (I'm doing the best I ever did, I'm doing the best that I can, now go away!)
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To: Kimmers
They just need to register them and then everyting will be A-OK

Don't forget the mandatory knife locks and a three day waiting period.

66 posted on 01/17/2006 1:37:52 PM PST by demkicker
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To: Phantom Lord
Here's the perfect filet knife...mine's over 25 years old:


67 posted on 01/17/2006 1:38:10 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

""Damn, I only have an 8". :(""



Don't fret.
I have a friend who claims he increased the length of his by doing excercises.


68 posted on 01/17/2006 1:38:29 PM PST by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

This is the first logical step towards depending on the government to provide us our daily gruel ration.


69 posted on 01/17/2006 1:39:40 PM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: vrwc0915

Something very disturbing is happening. From outlawing pointy kitchen utensils to these frequent freak-outs on passenger jets we hear about daily. Stories that would have been beyond belief not long ago. Could there be a link between say global consumption of these new designer anti-depressents and other drugs the multinational drug companies are selling like candy, or some other causative agent? Some may argue that the media is only emphasizing it to make it look bigger, but I sense that is not the case and there really is a sort collective meltdown in the human psyche going on.


70 posted on 01/17/2006 1:40:41 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Fierce Allegiance

"Damn, I only have an 8". :("

An 8" chef's knife is OK, but a 10" is more versatile. I paid over $200 for the one I have now. Nobody but me is allowed to touch it. I have one of those cute knife blocks full of nice sharp knives for the mrs. and guests. They're welcome to play with those.

My favorite trick is to peel a lemon with the big knife, in one spiraling piece. Takes me no more than 7 seconds.


71 posted on 01/17/2006 1:40:47 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: vrwc0915

How about self-control?


72 posted on 01/17/2006 1:40:50 PM PST by Juan Medén
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To: capt. norm
Fortunately it will take them some time to get around to banning rubber chickens.

You think so? I'm betting that within five years, you'll see the Sopranos using them to garrotte people.

73 posted on 01/17/2006 1:41:16 PM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: vrwc0915
"Dr Emma Hern(twit), writing in British Medical Journal...
74 posted on 01/17/2006 1:41:24 PM PST by spunkets
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To: vrwc0915

a steady regression back to the stone age............When rock was king!


75 posted on 01/17/2006 1:41:26 PM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: Constitution Day

"They're expensive, but sharp as HELL. I'm afraid we'd break them somehow"

They're too light. Not enough heft to be all around tools.


76 posted on 01/17/2006 1:41:28 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: TChris

The people in your simulation still have hands (fists), arms (elbows), knees, feet, teeth, and foreheads. In addition, there are also sticks, rocks, and various other things laying about. Also, with sufficient motivation, they could rip that door off and beat one another to death with it. To ensure maximum safety, I recommend removing all the things I mentioned, and trying again.


77 posted on 01/17/2006 1:41:47 PM PST by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: SpaceBar

Bush's fault!


78 posted on 01/17/2006 1:41:51 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: TChris
Let's just do away with people all together. Especially the ones we don't agree with. Republicans, step up please....

Ok, now gun owners, step up please.....

Ok, now people that have EVER had a bad thought about a member of our 'approved minorities list', step up please.....

Sometimes, I agree with those that say liberalism (and its cousin, nanny-statism) is a disease.

79 posted on 01/17/2006 1:41:55 PM PST by wbill
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To: CodeToad

Assault knives are merely ugly knives.

If you have a pretty handle, it's OK.


80 posted on 01/17/2006 1:41:56 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: Constitution Day

They are quite tough, but no, not as tough as the steel one.


81 posted on 01/17/2006 1:42:01 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (I'm doing the best I ever did, I'm doing the best that I can, now go away!)
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To: Phantom Lord

Yes, thank you. What other weapons should we banned. I have a feeling a good number of the other homicides were vehicular. They should ban those next.


82 posted on 01/17/2006 1:42:28 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (Not today.)
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To: InsureAmerica

That's one way to smoke a ham.


83 posted on 01/17/2006 1:42:38 PM PST by tumblindice
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To: vrwc0915

More of those homicides would have been done with guns had the populace not already been disarmed.


84 posted on 01/17/2006 1:43:29 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: MineralMan
My favorite trick is to peel a lemon with the big knife, in one spiraling piece. Takes me no more than 7 seconds.

Ever watch the original Iron Chef? Chef Saki had an apple peeling contest with a student at the CIA. By the time the student had his first apple peeled, Saki had about a dozen.

85 posted on 01/17/2006 1:43:40 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

I see no real benefit in what is, in effect, the gradual extension of "supermax" prison rules to the rest of society. Do they really long for the good ol' days of Ghengis Khan when those who wanted to chop their meat for dinner had to use a single communal knife chained to a block, under the eyes of a soldier? It's why Chinese food is traditionally served in bite-size pieces.

Is this what these overeducated numbskulls want for us?

P!ss on them. The only difference between a bread knife and a weapon is a few minutes with a grinder.


86 posted on 01/17/2006 1:44:05 PM PST by coydog
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To: MeanWestTexan

"Assault Knives"....hee hee hee.


87 posted on 01/17/2006 1:44:44 PM PST by wbill
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To: Constitution Day

Mrs. MWT prefers wustof over hinkle.

She prefers a Benelli 12 gauge for hunting.


88 posted on 01/17/2006 1:44:56 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: MineralMan

LOL, I'd lose a finger at that rate! At $200, i'd hide it, too.

I use a santoku for a lot of stuff, I like the shape better for veggies, etc. It would not make as good a weapon for stabbing as a chef's knife would, however.


89 posted on 01/17/2006 1:45:23 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (I'm doing the best I ever did, I'm doing the best that I can, now go away!)
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To: coydog
It's why Chinese food is traditionally served in bite-size pieces.

Is it true that chop sticks came about because all the eating untensils were taken away for fear the peasents would use them as weapons?

90 posted on 01/17/2006 1:46:10 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: vrwc0915
Doctors claim long kitchen knives serve no purpose except as weapons

These are obviously doctors who haven't done much cooking.

91 posted on 01/17/2006 1:46:27 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Assault knives are merely ugly knives.

If you have a pretty handle, it's OK.

Like assault rifles, assault knives will kill you deader than a regular one. ...and they hurt more. ...and you die more scared. ;-)

92 posted on 01/17/2006 1:46:42 PM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: vrwc0915

Bumping for a good chuckle later.


93 posted on 01/17/2006 1:46:50 PM PST by Sweet_Sunflower29 (If we want the gov't involved in their education, they'll attend public school. *NO* vouchers!)
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To: MineralMan

Me, too.

Although we also use a Jap-style chef's knife (it has a name, but I do not know it, Wustof is the brand --- basically a square edged chef's knife with side indentions -- doubles as a spatula).


94 posted on 01/17/2006 1:47:37 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: WVNan

bathtubs and Oxygen dehydroxide (water) are dangerous. Women with postpartum use them to drown kids. Toilets are bad when they flush kittens.


95 posted on 01/17/2006 1:48:16 PM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: vrwc0915
The human race is very resourceful when it comes finding things to use as weapons. The authorities can ban guns, then long, pointy kitchen knives, and people intent on doing harm will find a wide variety of implements to do the deed. Bust a chair over someone's head; shove them down the steps or through a window; grab a rock from the garden. Drown them in the bathtub; smother them with a pillow....the list is endless.

Instead of dealing with problem people individually and harshly, these idiots come up with a "solution" (and a half-assed one at that) that inconveniences everyone and doesn't solve the problem.

That's just my opinion. I could be wrong. I probably am wrong, not being a doctor and all.

96 posted on 01/17/2006 1:48:47 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Just say "No" to Judy Baar Topinka)
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To: vrwc0915

Maybe the little liberals will allow the people to have access to scissors. Or maybe not. Maybe the paternalism of the Left runs so deep that every citizen needs a binky and a diaper change.


97 posted on 01/17/2006 1:49:32 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: Phantom Lord

"Ever watch the original Iron Chef? Chef Saki had an apple peeling contest with a student at the CIA. "

Yeah, but it's Sakai. He is a knifework wizard. I'm far from in his category, but I'm a pretty good hand with a chef's knife.

I saw that show, and was very impressed.


98 posted on 01/17/2006 1:49:38 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MeanWestTexan

I cannot tell any real difference between henkels and wustof, but each offer at least 2 handle styles. That's the big difference for me.


99 posted on 01/17/2006 1:50:00 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (I'm doing the best I ever did, I'm doing the best that I can, now go away!)
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To: coydog

"It's why Chinese food is traditionally served in bite-size pieces."

I thought it was because: (1) the emporer did not want to see that it recognizably came from an animal and (2) for limited fuel reasons, they cooked in woks, which necessitates little pieces.


100 posted on 01/17/2006 1:50:21 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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