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To: RVN Airplane Driver; timsbella
Almost as funny as Kennedy's "Ich bin ein Berliner" - literal translation "I'm a jelly donut!"

You, my friend are incorrect...and have swallowed hook, line and sinker an urban legend. The President said it correctly

From what I understand, everywhere else in Germany a berliner IS a jelly donut. So while he may have been correct in Berlin the rest of the country heard "I am a jelly donut"

(But then I could be wrong. It's happend before. I think)

35 posted on 01/18/2006 1:56:38 PM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O

You've right. It's roughly the equivalent of saying "I'm a Hamburger" rather than "I'm of Hamburg".


36 posted on 01/18/2006 1:59:01 PM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: John O

He used the article (ein); if he had said "Ich bin Berliner," it would have been correct. However, everybody knew perfectly well what he meant, and Germans (particularly Berliners) loved it, error and all.


46 posted on 01/18/2006 3:33:08 PM PST by livius
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To: John O

I don't speak the language well enough to be in judgement, but I suggest that you google the phrase and review what folks who apparently know say......that's where I got my information...


52 posted on 01/18/2006 3:51:26 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver (Most Americans are so spoiled with freedom they have no idea what it takes to earn and keep it.)
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To: John O
The Germans knew what he meant, mistake and all. I doubt any of them thought he was actually saying "I am a jelly donut", although a Berliner is indeed a pastry.

Lots of places in Germany have food items named after them, depending on where the dish originated. For instance, a Hamburger is both a resident of Hamburg AND something that White Castle serves.

86 posted on 01/19/2006 2:56:10 PM PST by Serb5150 (Mr. T is allergic to doorknobs. That's why he can only kick through doors.)
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