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Feds Seek Google Records in Porn Probe
AP Via Yahoo ^ | 2006-01-19

Posted on 01/19/2006 10:36:33 AM PST by flashbunny

The Bush administration, seeking to revive an online pornography law struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court, has subpoenaed Google Inc. for details on what its users have been looking for through its popular search engine.

Google has refused to comply with the subpoena, issued last year, for a broad range of material from its databases, including a request for 1 million random Web addresses and records of all Google searches from any one-week period, lawyers for the U.S. Justice Department said in papers filed Wednesday in federal court in San Jose.

Privacy advocates have been increasingly scrutinizing Google's practices as the company expands its offerings to include e-mail, driving directions, photo-sharing, instant messaging and Web journals.

Although Google pledges to protect personal information, the company's privacy policy says it complies with legal and government requests. Google also has no stated guidelines on how long it keeps data, leading critics to warn that retention is potentially forever given cheap storage costs.

The government contends it needs the data to determine how often pornography shows up in online searches as part of an effort to revive an Internet child protection law that was struck down two years ago by the U.S. Supreme Court on free-speech grounds.

The 1998 Child Online Protection Act would have required adults to use access codes or other ways of registering before they could see objectionable material online, and it would have punished violators with fines up to $50,000 or jail time. The high court ruled that technology such as filtering software may better protect children.

The matter is now before a federal court in Pennsylvania, and the government wants the Google data to help argue that the law is more effective than software in protecting children from porn.

The Mountain View-based company told The San Jose Mercury News that it opposes releasing the information because it would violate the privacy rights of its users and would reveal company trade secrets.

Nicole Wong, an associate general counsel for Google, said the company will fight the government's efforts "vigorously."

"Google is not a party to this lawsuit, and the demand for the information is overreaching," Wong said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americantaliban; bigbrother; google; govwatch; libertarians; nannystate; porn; snooping; statist
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1 posted on 01/19/2006 10:36:34 AM PST by flashbunny
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To: Itzlzha

I think someone should tell alberto gonzales that illegal aliens are smuggling porn over our open borders. Maybe that would get them to actually do something.


2 posted on 01/19/2006 10:37:30 AM PST by flashbunny (Are you annoying ME? Are you annoying ME? You must be annoying me, since there's no one else here!)
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To: flashbunny

They really hadn't oughta use "porn" and "probe" in the same sentence.


3 posted on 01/19/2006 10:38:16 AM PST by IamConservative (Who does not trust a man of principle? A man who has none.)
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To: flashbunny
The Bush administration, seeking to revive an online pornography law struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court, has subpoenaed Google Inc. for details on what its users have been looking for through its popular search engine.

The Bush Admin is getting out of control on this stuff. I was at first willing to accept electronic survelliance without a warrant against anyone with a clear connection to al Qaeda for national security reasons.

But this isn't about terrorism or national security. There is no crime here that I can see that justifies a subpeona. This is a Justice Department that, IMO, no longer feels that the 5th applies to them - and they will lose my support over more important issues if they keep this kind of nonsense up - because then I will start to wonder, what other kind of stuff do they have the NSA looking at if they can rationalize this kind of abuse of power?

4 posted on 01/19/2006 10:41:20 AM PST by dirtboy (My new years resolution is to quit using taglines...)
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To: flashbunny

Big brother going after big brother...


5 posted on 01/19/2006 10:41:29 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: flashbunny
The government contends it needs the data to determine how often pornography shows up in online searches

1) It doesn't sound to me like they're looking for identities, just a tally number of pertinent searches, and

2) I'm not sure I can see how knowing a number is pertinent to the process involved in crafting the legislation.

6 posted on 01/19/2006 10:44:58 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: flashbunny

Notice that this AP article repeatedly refers to "pornography," so you have to read it very closely to see that the administration is only concerned about CHILD PORNOGRAPHY.

Most people would agree that child pornography is not a good thing. Unfortunately, the liberal justices on the Supreme Court disagreed, and struck down the law.

I can see why people would worry about a slippery slope here, but it seems fairly clear that the concern is limited to child pornography. Or at least it would be clear if AP didn't deliberately distort their article.


7 posted on 01/19/2006 10:46:30 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: flashbunny

The phrase "overly broad" comes to mind.


8 posted on 01/19/2006 10:46:42 AM PST by glorgau
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To: Cicero

"Notice that this AP article repeatedly refers to "pornography," so you have to read it very closely to see that the administration is only concerned about CHILD PORNOGRAPHY."

Maybe you should read it again.

It's not about child pornography. It's about COPA, which was meant to 'protect children' from seeing online porn - which is the job of the parent, not government.


9 posted on 01/19/2006 10:49:35 AM PST by flashbunny (Are you annoying ME? Are you annoying ME? You must be annoying me, since there's no one else here!)
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To: flashbunny

I agree that it is the job of the parent, but believe they need government's help. Who says it is not the job of the government? What support do you have for your assertion?


10 posted on 01/19/2006 10:51:19 AM PST by dinoparty (In the beginning was the Word)
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To: Cicero

You are not correct. The law that was struck down concerns minors accessing regular pornography.

I admit that point is obscure in this article, but that's what the administration is trying to justify.


11 posted on 01/19/2006 10:51:31 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: dirtboy

> The Bush Admin is getting out of control on this stuff. I was at first willing to accept electronic survelliance without a warrant against anyone with a clear connection to al Qaeda for national security reasons.

I agree with you. I hope Google sticks to its guns and doesn't supply this.


12 posted on 01/19/2006 10:52:31 AM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: dinoparty

please point me to the section of the constitution that gives the federal government the authority to do this.

Maybe you have a different version that I do.


13 posted on 01/19/2006 10:52:43 AM PST by flashbunny (Are you annoying ME? Are you annoying ME? You must be annoying me, since there's no one else here!)
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To: dirtboy
But this isn't about terrorism or national security. There is no crime here that I can see that justifies a subpeona. This is a Justice Department that, IMO, no longer feels that the 5th applies to them - and they will lose my support over more important issues if they keep this kind of nonsense up - because then I will start to wonder, what other kind of stuff do they have the NSA looking at if they can rationalize this kind of abuse of power?

Precisely. If a Rat mole came up with this foolishness for the precise purpose of undermining the Administration's case, he couldn't have done a better job.

14 posted on 01/19/2006 10:53:14 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: flashbunny
Why the F*** does Bush care about online porn???!?

Is there a horrible stuck-keyboard-key problem in America or something???!?

The more this administration acts, the more I don't care who's in the White House next.

15 posted on 01/19/2006 10:53:18 AM PST by Lazamataz (I have a Chinese family renting an apartment from me. They are lo mein tenants.)
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To: dinoparty
Who says it is not the job of the government?

The Tenth Amendment.

What support do you have for your assertion?

The Tenth Amendment.

16 posted on 01/19/2006 10:54:16 AM PST by Lazamataz (I have a Chinese family renting an apartment from me. They are lo mein tenants.)
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To: Cicero
Most people would agree that child pornography is not a good thing. Unfortunately, the liberal justices on the Supreme Court disagreed, and struck down the law.

Most people would agree that returning stolen goods to their owners is a good thing. By your ridiculous argument, if the government did dragnet strip searches to look for stolen property and the Court told them it was illegal, the Court would be expressing support for theft.

17 posted on 01/19/2006 10:55:08 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: flashbunny

So you would have no objection to a state censoring internet porn?

By the way, if internet porn, accessible anywhere, replete with advertisements, etc. isn't interstate commerce, I don't know what is.


18 posted on 01/19/2006 10:55:12 AM PST by dinoparty (In the beginning was the Word)
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To: proxy_user

I stand corrected. I was thinking of the child pornography law that was struck down, but this is indeed a separate issue, children accessing pornography, also evidently struck down.


19 posted on 01/19/2006 10:55:52 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Lazamataz

damn constitution citing freak!

Somewhere there are lazy / incompetent parents who don't keep their kids from looking at porn! The Bill of rights doesn't matter as long as that's happening! The all-knowing state must act!!!


20 posted on 01/19/2006 10:56:27 AM PST by flashbunny (Are you annoying ME? Are you annoying ME? You must be annoying me, since there's no one else here!)
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