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Fish Gill Evolves toward Tetrapod Ear? (Just-So-So)
Creation-Evolution Headlines ^ | 01/20/2006 | Creation-Evolution Headlines Staff

Posted on 01/20/2006 12:09:20 PM PST by bondserv

Fish Gill Evolves toward Tetrapod Ear?    01/20/2006  
“This is another nail in the coffin of the creationist view, in my opinion,” said the curator of Chicago’s Field Museum about a paper published in Nature,1 reported the Washington Post yesterday (see MSNBC News).  Brazeau and Ahlberg of Uppsala University in Sweden examined the skull of Panderichthys, a Devonian lobe-finned fish, and found what they are calling a transitional form between gills and ears.  They found a spiracle (respiratory channel) they are claiming is intermediate between the gills of the Devonian fish Eusthenopteron and the middle ear bones of the purported earliest tetrapods like Ichthyostega and Acanthostega (08/09/2003, 07/03/2002, 08/03/2004).
    The origin of the middle ear in tetrapods has “remained elusive,” the researchers said, “with little indication of how this transformation took place.”  After examining the skull of Panderichthys, they claim that this spiracular region was “radically transformed” from earlier lobe-finned fishes, and was “represents the earliest stages in the origin of the tetrapod middle ear architecture.”  Though the spiracle resembles that of tetrapods, it was still used for respiration in Panderichthys, they believe, but later developed into a larger middle ear channel in which a bone called the hyomandibula developed into a stapes (a middle ear bone).  This, in turn, was co-opted for use as a sound-transmitting device.  From there, mammalian ears developed.
    The news media are taking notice of this transitional form to hammer creationists.  “Question: What do you do with half an ear?  Answer: You breathe through it,” wrote David Brown for the Washington Post.  This answers the creationist claim that organs like the ear are “too complicated to have evolved step by step” and therefore “had to have been created in their final form.”  If the structure had an intermediate function, it could have had survival value, in other words. 

Their conclusion is controversial, as it amounts to a radical reinterpretation of how the ear developed in land-based animals.  If it withstands scientific scrutiny, the fossil will be a rare example of an organ glimpsed partway along its evolutionary path, at a point when its function was very different from that of its final form.   (Emphasis added in all quotes.)
Both the Washington Post and LiveScience indicated that not everyone is ready to jump on the bandwagon, however.  Bjorn Carey in LiveScience pointed out that this differs from previous beliefs that ear evolution began after the transition to land.  Also, since no soft tissues are preserved in either Panderichthys or the early tetrapods, no one knows how these spiracles were actually used.  David Brown ended with a quote from Michael LaBarbera (U of Chicago), an expert on the functional anatomy of the extinct animal, who is not convinced the structure even is a spiracle.  He criticized the theory of Brazeau and Ahlberg as being “based on the interpretation of a structure that would be completely novel and unprecedented in this lineage.”
1Brazeau and Ahlberg, “Tetrapod-like middle ear architecture in a Devonian fish,” Nature 439, 318-321 (19 January 2006) | doi:10.1038/nature04196.
Let us pause for a moment to think like a consistent evolutionist.  This is very hard to do and is rarely accomplished.  It requires purging our minds of certain persistent myths and misconceptions promulgated by textbooks and TV animators.  First, we must disavow orthogenesis.  The concept of “straight-line evolution” is out; we cannot arrange Eusthenopteron, Panderichthys and Acanthostega on a straight line and imagine one form evolving in a direct fashion to the other.  No – we must picture evolution branching out in a tree or bush-like pattern, and, therefore, place all these fossils at different points on different branches.  Next, we must disavow Lamarckianism.  There is no inheritance of acquired characteristics.  If an early Panderichthys acquired a spiracle by accident or striving, such a structure would not be inherited unless the mutation affected the germ line.  Third, we must disavow teleology.  None of these creatures were “trying” to evolve an ear, or even a spiracle.  There was no purpose or goal of achieving a fully functioning tetrapod ear.  Evolution cannot see into the future.  Natural selection acts only on present survival requirements.  Finally, we must disavow vitalism.  None of these creatures had any kind of world-soul or vital energy driving them upward by some inexorable path toward higher degrees of complexity and organization.  The fitness landscape is not a mountain, but a chaos of undulating, dynamic hills and valleys.  Ready?  Good, let us proceed.
    Now, we consistent evolutionists are ready to give an honest look at the challenges of those pesky creationists.  They say that it is not just the bones of fossils, but the missing soft parts, that are key to understanding the impossibility of getting irreducibly-complex organs via natural selection.  The mammalian ear, they say, has a cochlea, an organ of Corti with molecular springs and motors, a tympanic membrane, some finely-tuned bones that act like levers, and a complex brain to interpret the electrical signals transduced mechanically from air or liquid to nerve impulses.  They say that there should not be one questionable transition, but thousands of them.  They also say that these alleged transitions must have complete functionality at each stage, such that they outcompete those lacking the function to the point of remaining the only survivors in a vast battlefield of death (the cost of selection).  They point to “living fossils” like Coelacanth that were long thought to represent transitional forms, only to be found alive and well in the present day (and not using their lobed fins for anything resembling walking).  They embarrass us with the shortness of time in our scheme for coming up with major new body plans and organs, and they cast doubt on the dating and timing of the few existing fossils.  They tease us by saying that these branches would have had to be “evolutionary dead ends” that went extinct and therefore did not go on to develop functional ears.  And they pester us with reminders that new function requires new genetic information.  They criticize this paper as representing little more than a just-so story unless a detailed series of steps can be elucidated to show how new information for a spiracle or ear was embedded into the genes and then translated into proteins and developmental programs.  In short, they are not quivering at this announcement, and have delivered us all these counter challenges.  So now, let us consistent evolutionists, having cleansed our minds of misconceptions, rise to the occasion and answer them.  Who will be first?  Isn’t there someone?  Isn’t there anyone?  Goliath, how about you?  Pretty please?  No fair hiding in that coffin we built for the creationists.
    The ancient biosphere was more diverse and ecologically rich than our modern world.  Many extinct species are found in the record.  Undoubtedly these can be arranged and rearranged into all kinds of imaginary ancestral relationships.  Evolutionists have a bad habit of arranging only the similarities that fit their preconceived imaginary trees into homologous groupings, and calling other similarities analogous.  Why shouldn’t a school kid look at a proboscis monkey, a tapir and an elephant and use similar reasoning to think this is a transition from nose to trunk?  Or a jellyfish to sea slug to a jelly sandwich?  Maybe mudskippers and walking catfish are evolving into lizards or salamanders, or butterflies into birds, or penguins and seals into whales.  Sea stars have five fingers like a human hand.  Octopi have eight tentacles and spiders have eight legs.  Similarities are everywhere; why get worked up about a select few?  Could it be because they reinforce a favorite story?
    For more on problems with the fish-to-tetrapod transition in evolutionary theory, see the review of the evidence by Paul Garner from the Creation Technical Journal.


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1 posted on 01/20/2006 12:09:22 PM PST by bondserv
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To: bondserv
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2 posted on 01/20/2006 12:12:01 PM PST by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon. †)
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To: bondserv

pectoral fin bump


3 posted on 01/20/2006 12:13:41 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: bondserv

It must be so hard to be a Creationist these days. More and more marginalized, every day. Quite sad, really.


4 posted on 01/20/2006 12:13:42 PM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: orionblamblam
It must be so hard to be a Creationist these days. More and more marginalized, every day. Quite sad, really.

Yeah, now they're reduced to desperately saying, "well, yeah, this is the kind of transitional fossil we've been declaring can't exist, and now that it has been found, well, it couldn't really have occurred for these hand-waving 'reasons'..."

5 posted on 01/20/2006 12:18:16 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: orionblamblam

This so called discovery is so speculative that it doesn't warrant consideration.


6 posted on 01/20/2006 12:23:51 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: orionblamblam; Ichneumon

Sorry I gotta hit and run, but you guys sound like a couple of liberals commenting on one of our troops being killed in Iraq - as though it proves the war was a failure. Yet this is worse, because this is only conjecture while the death just happened and is easily verifiable.

But have fun! I'm looking forward to checking in tomorrow!

Oh, and bump... 8^>


7 posted on 01/20/2006 12:23:53 PM PST by RobRoy
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To: Ichneumon

Wow. You guys so readily swallow a subjective spin on one find. Didn't you read the thoughtful critique above at the end of the article?

An ear to breathe through?


8 posted on 01/20/2006 12:24:43 PM PST by Elpasser
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To: Junior

Archive


9 posted on 01/20/2006 12:25:58 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: bondserv
The scientific method is composed of the following steps:

1) Careful observation of a phenomenon.
2) Formulation of a hypothesis concerning the phenomenon.
3) Experimentation to demonstrate whether the hypothesis is true or false.
4) A conclusion that validates or modifies the hypothesis.

The scientists in this study only used steps 1 and 2 and ignored 3 and 4.
10 posted on 01/20/2006 12:31:54 PM PST by microgood
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To: bondserv

Just some more malarkey. Grab what sounds good and run with it like it is truth. They just got to keep convincing themselves lest they end up studying creationism.


11 posted on 01/20/2006 12:32:27 PM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: Ichneumon
Yeah, now they're reduced to desperately saying, "well, yeah, this is the kind of transitional fossil we've been declaring can't exist, and now that it has been found, well, it couldn't really have occurred for these hand-waving 'reasons'..."

Freakin' amazing - someone that is part of the pure Evolutionary theory and desparate to find more "evidence" theorizes that this spiracle may be a transitory stage between gills and the ear, and you act as if it's already hard science. You guys are more religiously fanatical in your beliefs than the average Christian is in God's existence.

12 posted on 01/20/2006 12:33:30 PM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: bondserv
“Question: What do you do with half an ear? Answer: You breathe through it,”

Is that like a pitcher breathing through his eyelids?

13 posted on 01/20/2006 12:34:21 PM PST by Redcloak ("Shiny... Let's be bad guys.")
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To: bondserv

It was my understanding that the notion that ears evolved from gills was based on embryology, not paleontology: that very early-stage human embryos in fact have what may be characterized as gill slits, that several of these gill slits progress towards positions along the neck and torso, before being covered up, that there exists in certain adult humans a rare but extant mutation which results in the gill slits remaining permanently, and that the uppermost of these gill slits can be observed developing by stages into a human ear.

The drawings of a late-19th-century naturalist (whose name I should remember but have forgotten) were the focus of glee among creationists when he became criticized for having drawn embryos of various animals so that they looked more similar than they do in fact look. However, these drawings, to my understanding, still serve to highlight the schematic similarities. The intent of these drawings was somewhat misunderstood: development was not understood to *parallel* evolution, so much as simply reveal its absence: the eveolutionary pressures to form the more distinctive features which separate organisms phyllogenicly are absent in the antenatal environment, so primitive features such as gill slits persist among the embryos of a given species, until the embryos are of such an age when the more complex, "evolved" features predominate.

The tail, gills, etc., of an embryonic human may not look as similar to those of a fish as the naturalist's drawings suggest they do, but nonetheless, one can clearly discern that these features, absent in adult humans yet present in embryonic fish, do exist among fetal humans. Likewise, our eyes also form at the sides of our heads, rather than the front; our lungs are blind cacae, like swim bladders, etc.


14 posted on 01/20/2006 12:36:34 PM PST by dangus
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To: Redcloak

Actually, yes...

The human ear is connected to the back of your throat via a "eustacian tube." It's sort of a funky place to locate such a tube, except that the human ear is derived from gills (see my previous post.)


15 posted on 01/20/2006 12:38:58 PM PST by dangus
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To: Elpasser

"An ear to breathe through?"

My grandfather could blow smoke rings out his ears. :^D


16 posted on 01/20/2006 12:40:06 PM PST by dangus
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To: orionblamblam

Don't gloat... I'm on your side, but I remember the coelecanth.


17 posted on 01/20/2006 12:41:36 PM PST by dangus
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To: bondserv
Their conclusion is controversial, as it amounts to a radical reinterpretation of how the ear developed in land-based animals

But this can't be, because Evolution as currently taught is a known fact, and can't possibly have been so wrong about how the ear developed.

After all, if evolutionists could be completely wrong about how the ear came into being, that might lead one to conclude that their previous "explanation" was just something they made up because they had no proof.

And we know that evolutionists never make anything up, and instead base all of their thoughts on nothing but the strictest application of the scientific method.

18 posted on 01/20/2006 12:48:42 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: dangus

> I'm on your side, but I remember the coelecanth.

What about it? A successful species.


19 posted on 01/20/2006 12:49:38 PM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: orionblamblam

>> A successful species. <<

Yes, but not the transitional land-dweller it was supposed to be. (Actually, the fact that the lobe fins have intermediate uses *not* used for slogging around the land like a catfish supports the modern theory, but the fact is that evolutionists were very wrongly making conclusions about the coelecanth. We may yet be shown to be very wrong about our presumptions about this organism's spiracle.)


20 posted on 01/20/2006 12:52:21 PM PST by dangus
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