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Iran’s president sees “final war” between Muslims, West
Iran Focus ^ | January 21, 2006

Posted on 01/21/2006 8:05:03 AM PST by beaversmom

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To: johnny7

They'd just immediately side with the mullahs anyway, just as they have with the terrorists, so screw em.


81 posted on 01/21/2006 9:55:02 AM PST by pissant
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To: bethelgrad

No we didn't... we needed to be on both sides of them.


82 posted on 01/21/2006 10:11:59 AM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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To: beaversmom

It's like that cellphone commercial where the old CEO says "I'm giving it to the man" and the young guy says "But you're the man."


83 posted on 01/21/2006 10:15:13 AM PST by gotribe (Hillary: Accessory to Rape)
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To: beaversmom
Global Arrogance

This type of reasoning is fallacious since anyone can then immediately say 'moslem arrogance' and the argument will collapse.

84 posted on 01/21/2006 10:15:36 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: bobbdobbs

...Defeating Jimmy Carter is not quite the same as defeating the US.....

Not so. The weak Carter allowed the US to actually be defeated. The hostages were taken. America did nothing. Carter failed. America failed.

To think otherwise is delusional. The pacifist Democrats are setting things up for it to happen again.


85 posted on 01/21/2006 10:28:17 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: beaversmom

Rather than attempting to take out 13 hidden and well fortified nuclear facilities, why not just bomb their oil infrastructure so they cannot sell ANY oil on the market? Then keep bombing it if they try to repair it. I realize this would raise global oil prices to $100 or more, but the way this slow motion disaster is unfolding, that's going to happen anyway. The advantage to doing this is it cripples their economy. They don't have much else to support them, other than the oil. They'll have no more cash to work on nuclear bombs. And it just might topple the regime from within if the Iranian economy collapses. Am I nuts, or could this work? I welcome freeper comments.


86 posted on 01/21/2006 10:58:42 AM PST by reaganbooster
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To: oh8eleven
What happens if the west decides that it really is a fight to the death?

We win, they lose. Period.

Yep. Then what, brainiac? That's what I can't figure out.

Remember the basic rules of existence, not the least of which is "you can never do just one thing."

The law of unintended consequences will apply well beyond anything you or I can imagine. "Winning" this way may not provide an "optimal outcome" so far as continued human existence is concerned, let alone the continued existence of democracy or any form of human freedom.

What will be the reaction to this sort of "victory?" Have you ever heard of the term "Pyrrhic victory?"

87 posted on 01/21/2006 11:18:58 AM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Phsstpok

Let me know when you get out of high school and start dealing in reality.


88 posted on 01/21/2006 11:28:07 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: beaversmom

>the Middle East conflict has become “the locus of the final war” between Muslims and the West

Why the West, if it's going to take place in the Middle East? This is a ME issue, not a European one.


89 posted on 01/21/2006 11:34:13 AM PST by TheBrotherhood
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To: oh8eleven
that is perhaps the stupidest post I have ever seen. And that's saying something.

What's next? Nyah, nyah?

You clearly aren't able to engage in a coherent discussion of valid factual arguments even from someone who assumed he was on the same side, and therefore aren't worth any more time.

Fortunately it is abundantly obvious that you aren't in any kind of position to know anything, influence events, or be listened to by anyone who is, for which we can all be thankful.

90 posted on 01/21/2006 11:39:31 AM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Uncle Meat
This bum is a Jim Jones waiting to happen.

Is the President of Iran really delusional enough to sacrifice the Iranian capital of Tehran and the holy city of Qom? A few strikes from Israeli Jericho II missiles armed with thermonuclear warheads of around 400-500 kT yield should ensure both cities are reduced to mostly radioactive ashes and molten glass.

91 posted on 01/21/2006 12:25:07 PM PST by RayChuang88
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To: patriciamary
I recently watched a discovery channel show they asked an eight year old if he could ask for anything what would it be? He answered that all American die!

All Americans die?... Gee kids really do say the darndest things!

92 posted on 01/21/2006 12:47:34 PM PST by Barnacle (The Democrat Party consists of a gaggle of criminal defense attorneys, and their clients.)
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To: Howlin
I agree totally.

It's a pleasure to share common ground with you.

93 posted on 01/21/2006 12:50:41 PM PST by Barnacle (The Democrat Party consists of a gaggle of criminal defense attorneys, and their clients.)
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To: Barnacle

The subject isn't much comfort, though, is it?

I think this guy will use a nuke; and soon.


94 posted on 01/21/2006 12:51:57 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Deo et Patria
That's the problem: it's not just one guy. The mullahs that run Iran will find another wackjob exactly like this to take his place.

This dude had many parters in crime too.

95 posted on 01/21/2006 12:56:36 PM PST by Barnacle (The Democrat Party consists of a gaggle of criminal defense attorneys, and their clients.)
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To: cripplecreek
He knows as well as we do that there would be retaliation for a nuke strike on Israel, he just doesn't care.

He thinks he's taking us down with him... at this nexus death cults becomes really dangerous.

96 posted on 01/21/2006 12:58:33 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: Howlin
I think this guy will use a nuke; and soon.

It's clear that he would if he could. That's why I believe we are going to take him out sooner than later.

By compassion, this idiot makes Saddam look like a juvenile delinquent.

97 posted on 01/21/2006 1:01:59 PM PST by Barnacle (The Democrat Party consists of a gaggle of criminal defense attorneys, and their clients.)
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To: Barnacle

Yes, he does.

And you know I am not one to panic, but I am really VERY worried about the coming months.


98 posted on 01/21/2006 1:06:54 PM PST by Howlin
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The Middle East is a beehive of Savages, they treat their donkey's better than they do their women.
http://redburtt.blogspot.com/


99 posted on 01/21/2006 1:09:07 PM PST by Hardy
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To: Old Professer
for Ahmadinejad I have decided on, "I'm mad in the head."

You could copy right that one.

100 posted on 01/21/2006 1:14:26 PM PST by Barnacle (The Democrat Party consists of a gaggle of criminal defense attorneys, and their clients.)
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