Posted on 01/22/2006 12:44:12 PM PST by ChicagoHebrew
The really weird thing is that the Bolivian Jews (who mostly came from Germany in the 1920s and 1930s) had really close business contacts with the "other Germans" who started arriving in the late 1940s...
I lived close to a lot of Germans in Paraguay when I was a kid. A lot of them had fled Germany due to forced military service. They were pacifists. I have always suspected that after the was there were a few nazis living among them.
David Mercado/Reuters
Evo Morales, right, donned ancient Indian garb for a traditional ceremony Saturday at the ruins of Tiwanaku, Bolivia's pre-Incan capital.
Take a chill pill ChiBrew. I was only adding a bit of levity. How many people in your average Mexican restaurant in the US actually come from Mexico? Not that many. I know. I managed one years ago.
2002 : (BOLIVIA : DE LOZADA IS REELECTED PRESIDENT; EVO MORALES TAKES SECOND) Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada is re-elected president of Bolivia but a defender of coca growers, Evo Morales, comes second - http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:17x8YTzXvCMJ:www.scaruffi.com/politics/bolivia.html+bolivia+clinton&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
2002 : (BOLIVIA : MORALES ENGINEERS PROTEST WHICH WOULD BRING DOWN PRESIDENCY OF DE LOZADA) In the 2002 elections (called after Banzer resigned because he was dying of cancer), it was a defender of the coca growers, Evo Morales, who finished second after Sanchez de Lozada. The same Morales then engineered the protests that brought down the democratically-elected president, Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada. Many in Bolivia believe that Morales succeeded because the druglords funded his efforts. - http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:17x8YTzXvCMJ:www.scaruffi.com/politics/bolivia.html+bolivia+clinton&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
[* Note: ...President Lozada's government sought to sell natural gas to the United States and Mexico and was carrying out feasibility studies to determine whether the gas should be exported via Chilean or Peruvian ports.... ----- ---- "Lutheran Bishop Says Change of Leadership Will not Resolve Bolivia's Problems; Call to Involve the People in Deciding Future of Natural Resources," From the Worldwide Faith News archives www.wfn.org ]
APRIL 2003 : (VENEZUELA : BOLIVIAN CONGRESSMAN EVO MORALES MEETS WITH VENEZUELAN PRESIDENT CHAVEZ) It all began last April in Caracas, when Bolivian Congressman and coca growers' leader Evo Morales met, for the first time, with Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez... and the sole journalist present was Narco News' Alex Contreras... - "Hugo Chavez Goes To Bolivia (Seeking to start a South American Narco War)," by Al Giordano, BigLeftOutside & Agence France Presse 11/06/03
OCTOBER 17, 2003 : (BOLIVIA : PRESIDENT DE LOZADA WILL RESIGN, PROMPTED BY VIOLENT, TERRORISTIC PROTESTS OVER THE EXPORT OF NATURAL GAS - * MY NOTE : TO THE US) LA PAZ, Bolivia Embattled President Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada will resign after weeks of deadly street riots triggered by a government plan to export natural gas, a close presidential ally said today. Sanchez de Lozada said he would issue a statement at 4 p.m. His government coalition received a crippling blow earlier today as his last key supporter withdrew after weeks of nationwide street demonstrations. Jaime Paz Zamora, a former president himself, called the impending announcement by Sanchez de Lozada a "patriotic decision."
Asked by reporters whether he meant a presidential resignation, Paz Zamora responded: "You are intelligent people. You know what it is."
Thousands of Bolivians marched through La Paz for a fifth straight day today demanding the 73-year-old Sanchez de Lozada step down 14 months into his second term. Columns of students, Indians and miners brandishing sticks of dynamite threaded past street barricades shouting, "We will not stop until he's gone!"
Military planes airlifted hundreds of stranded travelers from Bolivia's capital. - "Bolivia's Embattled President to Resign," AP via NewsMax.com Wires, Friday, Oct. 17, 2003
OCTOBER 2003 : (BOLIVIA : DE LOZADA RESIGNS PRESIDENCY AFTER VIOLENT PROTESTS ERUPT) Bolivian president Sanchez de Lozada resignes following weeks of violent protests throughout the country. ... Sanchez de Lozada has paid for political mistakes made by his predecessor and by the Clinton administration. More importantly, he paid for having refused to please the druglords. He was succeeded by his vice-president, Carlos Mesa, who will be careful to avoid the president's mistake. Bolivia is now just like Colombia: the government will have to negotiate with the druglords and the rebels. - http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:17x8YTzXvCMJ:www.scaruffi.com/politics/bolivia.html+bolivia+clinton&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
NOVEMBER 2003 : (VENEZUELAN PRESIDENT CHAVEZ IS GOING TO BOLIVIA ACCOMPANIED BY EVO MORALES) Chávez, after next week's Latin American Presidents Summit in Santa Cruz, Bolivia, is going to the coca-growing Chapare region, accompanied by Evo -- and maybe even some other interesting leaders, or their delegates, from other lands...
The "Authentic Journalism swarm with no name" will be present, too, with a multinational delegation to bring word of this historic turning point.- "Hugo Chavez Goes To Bolivia (Seeking to start a South American Narco War)," by Al Giordano, BigLeftOutside & Agence France Presse 11/06/03
Expect them to start ramping up the "sea access" rhetoric soon...
NOVEMBER 6, 2003 : (VENEZUELAN PRESIDENT CHAVEZ SPEAKS OF THE RIGHT OF INDIGINOUS TRIBES OF BOLIVIA TO GROW COCA - ALSO, SUGGESTS THAT BOLIVIA HAS A LEGITIMATE RIGHT TO SEA ACCESS - NAMELY, THROUGH CHILE) Hugo Chávez, president of Venezuela, a country where the coca leaf does not grow, today spoke for the first time publicly in defense of the right of the indigenous of Bolivia to cultivate their millenarian sacred plant.
Agence France Press reports:
He [Hugo Chavez] reminded that the Bolivian indigenous "have planted coca for 10,000 years," and therefore, "it's not their fault that chemical components have appeared to make cocaine, or that the rich consume it, while the poor do not..."
And where did you hear it first?
Chávez also lights a fire under the neoliberal presidents of Perú and Chile, suggesting that landlocked Bolivia, which lost its seaports in the War of the Pacific (1879-1884) to Chile, "has a legitimate and historic territorial right" to sea access. "It was not a war against the Empire," noted Chávez, who mentioned that he has tried to raise this issue at presidential summits "but the governments of Chile and Perú don't want to talk about the issue."
"This is a conversation," he said, "between brothers." South America is behaving, more and more, as a Union. - "Hugo Chavez Goes To Bolivia (Seeking to start a South American Narco War)," by Al Giordano, BigLeftOutside & Agence France Presse 11/06/03
NOVEMBER 2003 mid : (VENEZUELAN PRESIDENT CHAVEZ SAYS IT IS UNFAIR THAT BOLIVIA HAS NO COAST) Chavez said at a forum over the weekend in Bolivia that it was not fair that the country had no coast and some day he would like to visit a Bolivian beach. Bolivia lost its outlet to the sea to neighboring Chile in the War of the Pacific in 1879. Chile says the issue is closed permanently and there is no room for modifying the 19th century treaty defining the borders between Bolivia, Chile and Peru. - "Chavez raises hackles with "Bolivian beach" comment," By Fiona Ortiz , Reuters Alertnet, Reuters, 18 Nov 2003 21:18:10 GMT
NOVEMBER 2003 Tuesday : (VENEZUELA SAYS IT IS PUSHING FOR A 'FRIENDLY SOLUTION' TO BOLIVIA'S LACK OF SEA ACCESS) Venezuela said on Tuesday it was pushing for a friendly solution to Bolivia's problem. "Evidently to be able to bathe in the waters of the Pacific (in Bolivia) there would have to be a negotiated solution between the two sides, and that is our profound wish, born of our profound brotherhood with Chile," Venezuelan Foreign Minister Roy Chaderton said at a press conference in Caracas. - "Chavez raises hackles with "Bolivian beach" comment," By Fiona Ortiz , Reuters Alertnet, Reuters, 18 Nov 2003 21:18:10 GMT
NOVEMBER 2003 : (UN SECRETARY GENERAL KOFI ANNAN SAYS HE IS OPEN TO MEDIATING BETWEEN CHILE & BOLIVIA OVER TALKS ABOUT SEA ACCESS FOR BOLIVIA; CHILE RESPONDS THAT THERE IS NOTHING TO NEGOTIATE) Chile also had a chilly response last week when U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan, on a visit to the region, said he was open to a mediating role if Bolivia and Chile were to talk about sea access. Chile said there was nothing to negotiate. - "Chavez raises hackles with "Bolivian beach" comment," By Fiona Ortiz , Reuters Alertnet, Reuters, 18 Nov 2003 21:18:10 GMT
NOVEMBER 18, 2003 : (CHILE RECALLS ITS AMBASSADOR IN VENEZUELA AFTER VENEZUELAN PRESIDENT CHAVEZ ANNOUNCES SUPPORT FOR BOLIVIA'S QUEST FOR ACCESS TO THE PACIFIC OCEAN) SANTIAGO, Chile, Nov 18 (Reuters) - Chile on Tuesday recalled its ambassador in Caracas after Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez voiced support for land-locked Bolivia's quest for access to the Pacific Ocean, a sore point between Chile and Bolivia for 125 years. The recall of the ambassador "is a signal regarding expressions (Chavez) should not have made. We as a country take care of our own bilateral affairs and we don't like third parties getting involved," Chilean Foreign Minister Soledad Alvear told a news conference in Santiago. - "Chavez raises hackles with "Bolivian beach" comment," By Fiona Ortiz , Reuters Alertnet, Reuters, 18 Nov 2003 21:18:10 GMT
Are you from Bolivia originally? It is weird that your mother tutored an ex-Nazis. That's bizarre! I have read that Bolivia has a small Jewish population. I have heard in Bolivia, German is practically the second language there. There are supposed to be many German colonies there. I know Argentina and Paraguay have plenty of them, which partially explains why many Nazis fled to South America, mainly Argentina. Also, Juan and Evita Peron helped them escape to Argentina because they sympathized with Nazis and wanted their money, which are in Swiss banks. I also know many Nazis fled to the Middle East, mainly Egypt and Syria and later Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq.
My father was in the US State Dept. We were stationed in Bolivia for 2 1/2 years.
Proving once again that even a stopped clock is right twice a day...
It was idiotic, not funny. If there was a picture of the Polish President, would you feel compelled to make wise cracks about him eating French food? The Poles and the French have about as much in common as Bolivia and Mexico.
Well now, that's somewhat incorrect.
There's quite a number of cokers out in middle class
and working class USA. They aren't rich. Their drug
habit makes them even poorer as a person, health-wise
and financially.
Indio Ping!
They are rich compared to the average person in Venezuela and Bolivia. Remember, something like 40% of the world lives on about $1 a day or less. America's "working class" are all in the top 10-20% of the world's wealth.
the coca eradication policy has to be one of the most idiotic thing the U.S. government has going down there ... practically handing U.S. foes a ready made rally cry of stereo-typical example of Yankee arrogance and unilateralism.
stop the demand and you stop the supply. as long as there is demand, supply will find a way ...
Yes, but realistically, there will always be people "wanting" drugs. Changing the minds of 10 million druggies(by punishment or medical intervention) is harder -- and costlier -- than destroying 10 thousand drug farmers' crops.
I see. How was life in Bolivia for you?
You're pretty idealistic.
Bolivia has a huge indigenous population with a far different culture than the US had to work with.
Since you're all hung up on food you can EAT ME.
You probably shouldn't bother yourself with morons who post those kinds of things.
It appears that some freepers don't like foreigners even when they live and work in their own countries.
Somehow I doubt that even that rabble rouser Bolivar would have been into this!
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