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Solving the Pueblo mystery
The Washington Times ^ | 1-23-06 | James G. Zumwalt

Posted on 01/23/2006 11:53:34 AM PST by JZelle

An international incident 38 years ago this month remains shrouded in mystery. On the bitterly cold morning of Jan. 23, 1968, an American intelligence vessel, USS Pueblo, was operating in international waters off the coast of North Korea. It was surrounded by four North Korean patrol boats, with two MiG aircraft flying overhead. The boats ordered the Pueblo to stop and let the North Koreans board. The order was refused. The Pueblo headed further out to sea. The North Korean boats immediately opened fire. Armed with only a 50-caliber gun secured from the freezing temperatures by a tarp, the Pueblo was unable to fight back.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 1968; anasazi; chacocanyon; fourcorners; lbjscrewedthepooch; mystery; navy; northkorea; pueblo; usspueblo; vietnam
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1 posted on 01/23/2006 11:53:36 AM PST by JZelle
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To: JZelle

I remember this vividly. A very tense situation.


2 posted on 01/23/2006 11:58:52 AM PST by EggsAckley
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To: JZelle

Johnson had a REAL incident on his hands and couldn't do a thing because of his FAKE TONKIN GULF INCIDENT.............The persident LIED and 50,000 DIED........


3 posted on 01/23/2006 12:00:10 PM PST by Red Badger (LUKE 22:36 JESUS: "........and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."........)
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To: JZelle

Interesting article. I remember the day the Pueblo was captured.


4 posted on 01/23/2006 12:00:28 PM PST by American Quilter
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To: JZelle

Good info, but I do wish we had given some token resistance, even had it resulted in additional casualties. The total lack of return fire made this the most embarassing defeat in U.S. Navy history.


5 posted on 01/23/2006 12:00:57 PM PST by ansel12
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To: Red Badger

We should have destroyed the ship after the NKs took it. (and most of the dock.)


6 posted on 01/23/2006 12:01:37 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: JZelle

Interesting. I had never heard about the N Korean pilots in Vietnam. However, it still doesn't explain why the US didn't retaliate against the act of war committed by N Korea against the Pueblo.


7 posted on 01/23/2006 12:01:41 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: JZelle
Wow...Good Stuff. Thanks for the history lesson. I've never heard about most of this stuff.


8 posted on 01/23/2006 12:01:52 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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The Texas Turd

9 posted on 01/23/2006 12:04:44 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: EggsAckley

Sounds very similiar to the surveilance plane episode a few years back with China.

Wonder what the "real" issue was there.


10 posted on 01/23/2006 12:07:04 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: darkwing104

I never heard about either until I saw a segment about NK on 60 Minutes (I know, I know) a couple weeks ago. They said the Pueblo is a source of national pride. It now sits docked and can be toured for an admission.


11 posted on 01/23/2006 12:08:19 PM PST by JZelle
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To: JZelle

I read this article but really didn't learn much. I was hoping to find out why we didn't firebomb N. Korea when they refused to let this ship go.


12 posted on 01/23/2006 12:15:02 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Red Badger

Sarcasm, funny!

Red6


13 posted on 01/23/2006 12:16:53 PM PST by Red6
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To: EggsAckley

I remember it too. Thought my "freedom" flight from Viet Nam in late Feb. would be diverted to cold Korea. While processing on Okinawa (Camp Hansen) for the rest of the ride home rumors were rampant that we combat veterans would be assigned to new units and shipped immediately to Korea.


14 posted on 01/23/2006 12:17:30 PM PST by stumpy
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Whenever we would play softball at Pine Banks Park on the Malden/Melrose line, someone would point up at the house on the cliff overlooking center field and say "that's where the idiot who didn't destroy the equipment on the Pueblo lived".


15 posted on 01/23/2006 12:19:28 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
We should have destroyed the ship after the NKs took it.

We should have allowed the two F4C's to continue.

16 posted on 01/23/2006 12:19:29 PM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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James G. Zumwalt, a Marine veteran of the Persian Gulf and Vietnam wars, is a contributor to The Washington Times.

Son of former CNO Admiral Elmo R. Zumwalt Jr.

James G. Zumwalt is a retired U.S. Marine lieutenant-colonel and former senior adviser to the assistant secretary of state on human rights and humanitarian affairs under President George W. Bush. Since 1994, he has visited North Korea 10 times to help bridge the gap between the U.S. and the DPRK. A Vietnam and Persian Gulf war veteran, Zumwalt now acts globally as a private consultant to clients for market investment. He received a Juris Doctorate degree from Villanova University in 1979, and the honorary degree of Doctor of Laws Honoris Causa from Mercy College in New York in 1991.

17 posted on 01/23/2006 12:21:00 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: JZelle
My father was a CTM stationed in Yokosuka at the time and knew a number of the guys in the crypto shack aboard Pueblo. He was personally involved in a lot of the stuff going on in Japan at the time of the capture and during the subsequent months of captivity.

Unfortunately, he's no longer alive to ask for additional details, or for his opinion on this article.

18 posted on 01/23/2006 12:22:19 PM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: EggsAckley

I also remember the incident. I was part of the national intelligence community at the time. The loss of sensitive equipment and documents was a tremendous blow. Even worse was the capture of our intel specialist. As usual, our timid leaders wrung their hands and begged the North Koreans to "pretty-please" give everything back.


19 posted on 01/23/2006 12:25:49 PM PST by hdstmf (too)
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To: JZelle

Can't we, the USA, take it back from them? In a similar manner to which they so robbed us?


20 posted on 01/23/2006 12:29:59 PM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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