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Inmate Guilty of Killing Pedophile Priest
AP ^ | Jan 25, 2006 | DENISE LAVOIE

Posted on 01/25/2006 11:35:12 AM PST by US admirer

WORCESTER, Mass. (AP) - A jury rejected an insanity defense and found prison inmate Joseph Druce guilty Wednesday of first-degree murder in the strangulation of pedophile priest John Geoghan, a central figure in Boston's clergy sex abuse scandal.

Druce admitted sneaking into Geoghan's prison cell in August 2003. He jammed the door shut with a book, then beat and strangled the 68-year-old before guards could stop him.

The defense had argued that Druce was mentally ill and under the delusion that God had chosen him to kill Geoghan and send a message to pedophiles around the world.

Prosecutor Lawrence Murphy presented another picture of Druce, describing him as a conniving killer who planned the murder for weeks so he could be a "big shot" in prison.

"He was not a mentally ill person, raging out of control," Murphy said. "He's a calculating individual who waited for his opportunity."

The jury of five women and seven men deliberated for about six hours before reaching the guilty verdict.

Druce, 40, is already serving a life sentence for killing a man who allegedly made a sexual pass at him after picking Druce up hitchhiking. He unsuccessfully used an insanity defense during that 1989 trial.

With the new conviction, he'll face another life sentence without the possibility of parole.

On the witness stand, Druce described a troubled childhood in which his father beat him and his mother. He said he was physically and sexually abused at a residential school for troubled children.

Druce said he killed Geoghan to avenge the innocent children the defrocked priest was accused of molesting. He said he overheard Geoghan advise other inmates on how to molest children and say he planned to move to South America after prison so he could resume working with children.

"I had seen myself as the designated individual who had to put a stop to the pedophilia in the church," Druce said.

Geoghan was in prison for fondling a 10-year-old boy, but he was accused in lawsuits of sexually abusing some 150 children.

His case helped spark the clergy sex abuse scandal that spread worldwide after church personnel records revealed that the Boston Archdiocese had transferred Geoghan from parish to parish, even after allegations of abuse surfaced.


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KEYWORDS: abusivepriests; deathpenalty; druce; fathergeoghan; geoghan; homosexualagenda; homosexualpriests; inmateviolence; justice; patricide; pedophile; pedophiles; priest
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justice?
1 posted on 01/25/2006 11:35:14 AM PST by US admirer
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To: US admirer

Justice is when bad things happen to bad people, and good to good.

Law is important, but unrelated to real justice.


2 posted on 01/25/2006 11:37:45 AM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: US admirer

Should have given him time off for good behavior.


3 posted on 01/25/2006 11:38:09 AM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: US admirer

Justice would demand retribution, such as the death penalty. As it is, the murderer gets another life sentence.


4 posted on 01/25/2006 11:39:01 AM PST by Pondman88
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To: US admirer

If he's already got a life sentence then no loss any way. I wonder why his lawyer even fought about it. Good for him though. One less piece of garbage to molest kids. I bet people send that prisoner cookies and stuff for this.


5 posted on 01/25/2006 11:39:59 AM PST by Habble Gabble
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To: US admirer

The Lord do move in mysterious ways.


6 posted on 01/25/2006 11:40:54 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: US admirer
The defense had argued that Druce was mentally ill and under the delusion that God had chosen him to kill Geoghan and send a message to pedophiles around the world.

***************

Not justice. I believe the above is correct.

7 posted on 01/25/2006 11:41:09 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Pondman88
Justice would demand retribution, such as the death penalty.

No,here in the People's Republic of Massachusetts all life is sacred.

That is,unless Planned Parenthood hasn't gotten to it first.

8 posted on 01/25/2006 11:42:03 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: US admirer
Child molestation and sexual abuse are loathsome and heinous crimes. So is murder.

The priest was tried, convicted and sentenced by a jury, in accordance with the law. The law isn't necessarily justice.

However, what happened here was a murder. Justice will be served by the Almighty in the next life.

9 posted on 01/25/2006 11:43:25 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: Gay State Conservative
No,here in the People's Republic of Massachusetts all life is sacred. That is,unless Planned Parenthood hasn't gotten to it first.

Or Ted Kennedy.*

*Mary Jo Kopechne could not be reached for comment.

10 posted on 01/25/2006 11:43:28 AM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: US admirer

This guy has made a good name for himself in the clinker, he really didn't have much to lose killing Geoghan.


11 posted on 01/25/2006 11:51:28 AM PST by Pondman88
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To: US admirer

I'm just hoping that they end up putting the pedophiles who killed Jessica Lunsford, or Dylan Groehne or Danielle Van Damme or Samanthe Runion in with him.

Sadly, as I typed that, it just hit me how many children have been raped and murdered by these pieces of human debris in the past couple of years. It's terrible.


12 posted on 01/25/2006 11:54:09 AM PST by chae (R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero He lied, he cheated, he stole my heart)
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To: US admirer

Solitary confinement for 1 1/2 hours ought to be sufficient.


13 posted on 01/25/2006 11:56:42 AM PST by zek157
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To: US admirer
First off I OBJECT to this priest being tagged "pedophile" or any of them for that matter which have been found guilty abusing boys - they are HOMOSEXUAL PREDATORS.
"Geoghan was in prison for fondling a 10-year-old boy..."
"Pedophile" gives the misleading impression that girls were sexually abused too. They weren't! These priests' are HOMOSEXUAL predators - period. Scott Ritter and his ilk are "pedophiles". Teachers who have sex with students of the opposite sex are "pedophiles" these priests aren't.

And if calling a spade a spade upsets the 'gay lobby' queers, well that's too flucking bad. As I'm sick and GD tired of having a deviant 2% of the population setting the agenda on "what's a pedophile" and what's a HOMOSEXUAL PREDATOR.

14 posted on 01/25/2006 12:00:02 PM PST by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: US admirer

The molester received justice here. For the life of me I can't understand why people who sexually molest children don't receive the death penalty. There shouldn't be a "list" of sexual predators except at the morgue.


15 posted on 01/25/2006 12:02:14 PM PST by MBB1984
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To: US admirer

Fantastic! Give that boy an early release!


16 posted on 01/25/2006 12:11:57 PM PST by doctor noe
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To: US admirer

A friend was called to serve on that jury.

When asked if he had followed the case he said he had followed it intently, as he was catholic and was outraged at Geoghan and the church and the lack of justice in Ma.

When asked if he could be impartial he replied hell no. There should not even be this trial because the priest should have been killed by the state long ago. He said he thought it was terrible that the state basically used someone else to administer justice when they lacked the guts and that a trial was a waste of taxpayer's money since nothing could happen to the defendent.

He was sent home.


17 posted on 01/25/2006 12:19:53 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: peyton randolph

Dude deserves a medal


18 posted on 01/25/2006 12:28:20 PM PST by xcullen
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To: US admirer
justice?

Absolutely.

Likely he just wants to murder people and simply waits for a convenient excuse to justify venting his criminal killer instinct.

19 posted on 01/25/2006 12:37:24 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: US admirer
The child molester should have gotten a life sentence. Anything less is a danger to society. The laws that don't allow for that are the perverted root from which this ugly situation arose.

Pragmatically, the prisoner who killed the child rapist probably did prevent a few hundred child rapes. There are probably dozens of children out there who will now have a decent childhood, who wouldn't have if the rapist was let out. It would have been better if the rapist was just kept in prison, but since the state wasn't about to do that... anyone really concerned that the other option, letting the molester go on to rape more children, was thwarted?

The legal system must confirm as closely as possible to justice. When it doesn't, a split is formed between the good done through immediate justice, and the good done from having an orderly society checked in which justice is carried out according to law, evidence, and reason. This split should be minuscule; that allows both goods to work in harmony. The split should never be as glaring as it is in this case. We prevent the split by having sane laws and sane sentencing.
20 posted on 01/25/2006 12:50:51 PM PST by illinoissmith
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To: US admirer

Karma?

Hey, I'm just the messenger.


21 posted on 01/25/2006 12:52:26 PM PST by Idisarthur
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To: Condor51; MBB1984

Nice posts... I'm impressed.

History will catch up with these people.


22 posted on 01/25/2006 12:56:28 PM PST by Idisarthur
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To: numberonepal
The Lord do move in mysterious ways

ROFLMAO, always one of my favorite lines.

23 posted on 01/25/2006 12:57:32 PM PST by vikzilla
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To: Idisarthur

Sometimes the law makes me smile. Two life sentences. How exactly does that work? One life sentence here and one life sentence in the next life?

The priest will now find out what God's words meant and hopefully he repented on the way out. I'm certainly not sure how God would rank'em, but some how, I don't think pedophile, queer, Catholic Priests that rape little boys are too high on the list.


24 posted on 01/25/2006 1:07:12 PM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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25 posted on 01/25/2006 1:16:44 PM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: vikzilla
The Lord do move in mysterious ways
ROFLMAO, always one of my favorite lines.

That's how Grandma explained the un-explainable.

26 posted on 01/25/2006 1:24:42 PM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: US admirer
A jury rejected an insanity defense and found prison inmate Joseph Druce guilty Wednesday of first-degree murder in the strangulation of pedophile priest John Geoghan, a central figure in Boston's clergy sex abuse scandal.

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Druce, 40, is already serving a life sentence for killing a man who allegedly made a sexual pass at him after picking Druce up hitchhiking.

Yeah, life in prison without the possibility of parole, that's the ticket. A murderer won't be able to hurt anyone else in prison...

There is only one punishment that prevents a convicted murderer from repeating the crime, and that is execution.

27 posted on 01/25/2006 1:26:44 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: TheDon

>> There is only one punishment that prevents a convicted murderer from repeating the crime, and that is execution.

especially since prisoners can escape (remember the death
row inmate not long ago who managed to get free--for awhile)
or be pardoned by liberal governors. Druce was able to
commit his crime while IN prison.

But Mass. being Mass., it's unlikely that "Old Sparky"
will be brought back. Even if most people want it back,
the know-it-all legislature finds a way to thwart it.

Boston Globe: "In the aftermath of the Curley killing
(10 yr old boy raped/killed), the House initially approved the death penalty by a single vote then defeated it by the same margin when a single lawmaker -- Peabody Democrat John Slattery -- changed his mind."

That was in 1997. "In 2001, the House revisited the death penalty. By then, the margin of opposition had grown. The House defeated the bill by a 94-60 vote."

Slattery (see above) ran unsuccesfully for mayor of
Peabody, MA. My own little slogan regarding him is
(not flattery, but...) SLATTERY WILL GET YOU NOWHERE.


28 posted on 01/25/2006 1:37:50 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: US admirer

How do you wedge a door shut with a book, anyway?


29 posted on 01/25/2006 1:40:45 PM PST by Threepwood
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To: US admirer

I can't understand why a sane society would convict him for the first offense. He should get a medal for the second.


30 posted on 01/25/2006 2:08:47 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: USS Alaska

The priest is facing the real judge now, the others who looked the other way and let him continue with his perverted deeds and did not report them to the law will soon be facing the real judge and there will be NO repeal process.


31 posted on 01/25/2006 3:16:21 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: TheDon
There is only one punishment that prevents a convicted murderer from repeating the crime, and that is execution.

That's true, although perhaps their should be an exception for murderers who hate child molesters so that they can hang around prison to exact justice on guys like Geoghan.

32 posted on 01/25/2006 3:22:56 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: US admirer

I'm not looking to become a penpal, but if I had the guy's paypal account number I would fire off a token donation for a job well done.


33 posted on 01/25/2006 4:43:54 PM PST by carmelanne (Sacred policies should be reviewd every six months!)
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To: US admirer

The jury did what it had to do. John Geoghan was a loathsome person who deserves no sympathy, but Joseph Druce still should not have murdered him.


34 posted on 01/25/2006 5:04:52 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Sam Alito Deserves To Be Confirmed)
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To: US admirer
Prosecutor Lawrence Murphy presented another picture of Druce, describing him as a conniving killer who planned the murder for weeks so he could be a "big shot" in prison.

Works for me. I bet Druce doesn't want for anything from his cellmates.

35 posted on 01/25/2006 5:09:14 PM PST by SamAdams76 (Blizzard coming to Northeast U.S.)
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To: TChris

The dirt bag won't get out to foundle another child. I think death is an appropriate sentence for anyone who hurts a child.


36 posted on 01/25/2006 5:13:09 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: SteveMcKing
I told a neighbor (the judge) that the law must do every thing it can to achieve justice. I then said that when justice conformed to the law it was only coincidence. Within a week I was stricken from the counties jury pool.
37 posted on 01/25/2006 5:13:21 PM PST by W. W. SMITH
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To: TChris

at least justice in the afterlife is cheaper on the taxpayers


38 posted on 01/25/2006 5:20:08 PM PST by Stopislamnow
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To: doctor noe
Fantastic! Give that boy an early release!

Naaaah! He should stay in jail, but I think we should keep supplying him with gay pedophile priests...

39 posted on 01/25/2006 5:42:20 PM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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He said he overheard Geoghan advise other inmates on how to molest children and say he planned to move to South America after prison so he could resume working with children.

If this is true, I say... justice has been done.

40 posted on 01/25/2006 7:17:15 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
I can't understand why a sane society would convict him for the first offense. He should get a medal for the second.

Private killing, except in self-defense, is murder (cf. St. Augustine, Contra Faustum, XXII, 70: "In the light, then, of the eternal law, it was wrong for one who had no legal authority to kill the man, even though he was a bad character, besides being the aggressor"). I hardly see why society should laud those who commit this act.

41 posted on 01/25/2006 8:21:19 PM PST by gbcdoj (Let us ask the Lord with tears, that according to his will so he would shew his mercy to us Jud 8:17)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Good point.


42 posted on 01/25/2006 8:23:57 PM PST by lawgirl (She's more fun than Colorado and more far out than Maine.....)
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To: gbcdoj

The only harm he caused was taking justice into his own hands. Nothing of what he actually did was an injustice though, unless we are going to start throwing out Leviticus.

He did nothing worse than burning down a porn shop or shooting an abortionist.

A sane society would have already done these things though.


43 posted on 01/25/2006 8:55:22 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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no it is not good......if prisoners suffer no harm by beating and killing each other, what's to prevent wide-spread riots and rape and murder in our prisons.....

not all prisoners are in for horrible crimes...many in for drug possession or property crimes....they don't deserve to be beat to death....

45 posted on 01/26/2006 12:50:11 AM PST by cherry
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46 posted on 01/26/2006 1:25:20 AM PST by MillerCreek
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To: US admirer
Not justice: As we see the "law."

But poetic justice perhaps, that 150 defenseless children/boys being seduced/assaulted by a homosexual predator, are avenged by a guilty predator.

While both are in prison.

...

Deterrence? If the next homosexual priest hesitates before seducing/raping his next victim - them yes, it's deterrence.
47 posted on 01/26/2006 1:30:08 AM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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How do you wedge a door shut with a book, anyway?
That part does not make sense. My guess is that Druce was 'helped' to commit his crime.
48 posted on 01/26/2006 5:11:02 AM PST by Rose of Sharn (I get the best answers when I talk to myself!)
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To: gbcdoj
Private killing, except in self-defense

He was picked up as a hitchhiker by a man who turned out to be a sodomite. I have no trouble seeing it as self-defense when he killed the sodomite for propositioning him in an isolated place where he found himself powerless to escape (a moving vehicle he was not driving). Given his history of being assaulted physically and sexually by men in power positions over him, this fear was quite understandable. Ergo, in my view, he did nothing worthy of a conviction in his first offense, and he was defending himself from possible harm.

Druce is in jail because he killed a protected minority who was actually attempting to harm him physically and spiritually, not because what he did was wrong given the circumstances.

49 posted on 01/26/2006 5:57:41 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: US admirer
Murder is murder, no matter how disgusting the victim.

What having been said, I regret to admit that I can't choke up much sympathy for the victim... er, the murdered in this case.
50 posted on 01/26/2006 6:14:34 AM PST by Luircin (Conservatives want to turn losers into winners. Liberals want them to feel good about being losers.)
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