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Iraq's WMD Secreted in Syria, Sada Says
http://www.nysun.com/article/26514 ^ | IRA STOLL

Posted on 01/26/2006 12:55:39 AM PST by mal

The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.

The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, "Saddam's Secrets," released this week. He detailed the transfers in an interview yesterday with The New York Sun.

"There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands," Mr. Sada said. "I am confident they were taken over."

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; prequel; sada; saddam; syria; wmd
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To: Alberta's Child
The lack of definitive information about what exactly was supposed to happen there speaks volumes about why nobody has paid much attention to it since then.
BR> Translation: It isn't terrorism and it isn't important because it was foiled.

This was a major victory of PRE-EMPTION for us and you just find a reason to dismiss it. Not surprising really.

You going to lay out for me what the "official" rational was or is this post an attempt to dismiss that also??
81 posted on 01/26/2006 7:15:52 AM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: Semper Paratus
Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, "Saddam's Secrets," released this week. Will he be on 60 Minutes Sunday?

I'm waiting for the three day extravaganza on NBC Today as well. BTW, IMHO, anyone that watches NBC Today other than for opponent research needs their head examined.
82 posted on 01/26/2006 7:16:27 AM PST by JayNorth
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To: Alberta's Child

Google Halabja.


83 posted on 01/26/2006 7:16:51 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.)
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To: Alberta's Child

" I'd also point out that this war was a dismal failure on the part of the U.S. .."

HOGWASH, It has been a spectacular success! WE rolled the Iraqi army in record time with minimal casualties. We have enabled the creation of a Democratic gov't in Iraq for the first time EVER. The puzzle peices in the middle east will continue to fall into line.... and one day you will finaly go AHAH!............... Success unless your a Marxist or Communist......LOL


84 posted on 01/26/2006 7:17:23 AM PST by AmericanDave (More COWBELL....................)
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To: Alberta's Child
I can't imagine why he would ever think such a thing, especially when that's exactly what the U.S. thought he should be back in the 1980s. /sarcasm off/

Robert Heinlein said it best: When the time comes - and it will - you will have to be able to shoot your own dog.

85 posted on 01/26/2006 7:17:32 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: Alberta's Child
583,000 hits for Halabja

Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons against his own people in May, 1988.

86 posted on 01/26/2006 7:19:42 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.)
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To: Alberta's Child
The lack of definitive information about what exactly was supposed to happen there speaks volumes about why nobody has paid much attention to it since then.

I feel very differently. A major thwarted al Qaeda attack fell completely off the radar. Why?

87 posted on 01/26/2006 7:20:41 AM PST by dirtboy (My new years resolution is to quit using taglines...)
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To: Alberta's Child
Quite frankly, I think anyone who believes that a head of state would move his most effective means of defense outside his country -- while he himself crawled down a hole as an invading army toppled his regime -- is pretty damned naive.

But, that is precisely what Saddam did in the Kuwaiti war with his entire modern air force. Moved it into Iran (a former enemy state), or buried them in the sand.

He knew he didn't have enough for a stand up fight for air supremacy, so he gambled on preserving his assets for a later time.

88 posted on 01/26/2006 7:21:28 AM PST by LexBaird ("I'm not questioning your patriotism, I'm answering your treason."--JennysCool)
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To: BlueStateDepression
The "Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq," as voted by Congress on October 2, 2002, is even worse than those silly "weapons of mass destruction" speeches that the President was making back in late 2002 and early 2003.

I never thought I'd see the day when so-called "conservatives" in this country would believe that violations of U.N. resolutions and enforcement of another country's "international obligations" would constitute a legitimate rationale for putting even a single U.S. life in harm's way halfway around the world.

What is the political/philosophical principle under which a conservative American considers the use of "international law" to be an act of treason when suggested by a justice of the U.S. Supreme Court but a legitimate power of the U.S. government when authorized in an act of Congress?

89 posted on 01/26/2006 7:21:34 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: higgmeister

Fine. Then airlift a couple of hundred thousand automatic weapons and a couple of million rounds of ammunition into Kurdistan, and let them deal with their problem themselves.


90 posted on 01/26/2006 7:22:42 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: Alberta's Child

No it was only one of, on a long list or reasons to go to war, only the liberal media keeps hounding the Demo talking point using that as the ONLY reason. It's BS and you should know that.


91 posted on 01/26/2006 7:23:42 AM PST by AmericanDave (More COWBELL....................)
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To: higgmeister
Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons against his own people in May, 1988.

Fair enough. If this constituted a legitimate reason for the U.S. to wage war against Iraq, then why didn't the U.S. topple the Hussein government in June of 1988?

92 posted on 01/26/2006 7:24:22 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Alright, you opened the door, now back it up. Since you appear to know more than current and recent administrations about Iraq's possession of WMD let's hear the facts. No conjecture, no vague references to media reports or talking points. Facts only! What is the irrefutable information you have that Iraq's WMD never existed beyond 1998? If you want to discredit "so-called" conservatives for believing that WMD existed after 1998 then do so with facts. Saying that it was used by "that dysfunctional @sshole look presidential and garner political support from soccer moms with double-digit IQs" doesn't fit the bill.

Lastly, your response that "In fact, suggesting that the war is a success or a failure is a futile endeavor": It was, in fact you who suggested the war was a dismal failure; your original post read "I'd also point out that this war was a dismal failure on the part of the U.S. Those are your words. So, apparently you admit to being engaged in a futile endeavor.

'Nuff said!

93 posted on 01/26/2006 7:24:28 AM PST by bcsco ("The Constitution is not a suicide pact"...A. Lincoln)
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To: mal

Tell him thanks but I an not going to make him rich by buying his book.

Where the heck has he been for the last year as our President was taking a beating from the dem's and world.

&*^% him.


94 posted on 01/26/2006 7:25:21 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Alberta's Child
Gee I wonder why the honest and no agenda media and press would never report this???? DUHH.....


Remember the template.... It if it makes Bush look good, then ignore it, or bury it in the back pages. If it makes Bush look bad, then hammer it on the front pages.
95 posted on 01/26/2006 7:26:01 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: AmericanDave
No it was only one of, on a long list or reasons to go to war . . .

You're right about that, but it's worth noting that many of those "other" reasons on that long list are even worse than that one.

96 posted on 01/26/2006 7:26:11 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: jslade
"Saddam realized, this time, the Americans are coming," Mr. Sada said. "They handed over the weapons of mass destruction to the Syrians."

And Jay Rockefeller said, "Mission Accomplished!!".

97 posted on 01/26/2006 7:36:35 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Good people died in 1991 sir. Entirely due to the actions of Saddam Hussein. Saddam was doled out a punishment by the world body.....not just the USA or the coalition that ousted him from Kuwait. He had WMD at that time and didn't use them then either.

I wish to conserve that which those folks fought and died for in 1991. That is to say, Saddam had to take the punishment he was dealt as a result of his own actions. He had a choice to do that willingly or be removed from power. Clinton knew this and that is why he backed the regime change Idea to begin with, as he knew full well that Saddam never had any intention of complying with the agreement he accepted....the agreement known as 687.

Over a decade was spent trying every option short of invasion to remove him power. All those options failed. Oil For Food is a blazing example of failure. You like to speak of failure.....funny how that isn't part of your posts.

687 was not and is not international law, it is an agreement made that was not held and there were consequences for that. That my friend is a conservatives viewpoint of right and proper. That is to say, held to account for choices made.

Is terrorism mentioned at all in anything that has to do with that use of force document or anything it points to?
How about Hostage taking?

Saddam had to go.....and he did. The world is moving forward where before it was stagnant. That sir, is a good thing.

People like you slammed Reagan everyday for his actions just like you do Bush today. Take notice how things have turned out since then and think long and hard about where the world will be in a couple decades. Folks were Wrong to oppose Reagan then and they are wrong to do that to Bush today.....simply because both of those LEADERS were doing the right thing at the time.....regardless of how painful those actions were or what the costs of those actions were.


98 posted on 01/26/2006 7:39:18 AM PST by BlueStateDepression
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To: bcsco
What is the irrefutable information you have that Iraq's WMD never existed beyond 1998?

Wrong question to ask -- since you're suggesting that I must prove that something doesn't exist. The burden of proof is on those who insist that it DOES exist. We can go back over some typical threads here in late 2002 and early 2003 to make my point . . .

Alberta's Child: I'm telling you right now that these so-called WMDs will never be found.

Other Freeper: What are you, a DUmmie? Of course they will. Everybody knows they will . . . it's beyond any doubt.

Alberta's Child: All right -- let's have a bet on it.

******

Now let's fast-forward to 2006 . . .

Alberta's Child: Where are those WMDs? It's been more than three years now.

Other Freeper: What are you, a DUmmie? They've been moved to Syria. Everybody knows that's exactly what happened to them . . . it's beyond any doubt.

Alberta's Child: They aren't going to be found in Syria. Let's have a bet on it.

As you can see, this kind of discussion ends up being a futile waste of time -- because at every turn of the road there will always be people who "insist" that they know exactly what happened to these WMDs -- "beyong any doubt." If I had 100 years to spend on this process, I'd end up in a bizarre discussion with someone right here on FreeRepublic with someone who insists that these WMDs were either take to the International Space Station on a Russian re-supply mission, or hidden in John Kerry's basement by George Soros.

It was, in fact you who suggested the war was a dismal failure; your original post read "I'd also point out that this war was a dismal failure on the part of the U.S."

Let's go back and look at my original post here . . . "I'd also point out that this war was a dismal failure on the part of the U.S. if we've spent hundreds of billions of dollars and thousands of U.S. lives over these WMDs only to have them spirited out of the country without our knowledge."

I don't "converse" with you on a regular basis here, so I'll be a little lenient. But the next time you quote me out of context in a deliberate attempt to deceive other people on this site will be the last time I post a response to you.

99 posted on 01/26/2006 7:40:20 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: Alberta's Child
But the next time you quote me out of context in a deliberate attempt to deceive other people

THAT sir, is EXACTLY what YOU do when you claim this war was about WWWWMMMMMMMDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!
100 posted on 01/26/2006 7:43:12 AM PST by BlueStateDepression
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