Skip to comments.Russia Moved Iraqi WMD
Posted on 01/28/2006 8:41:24 PM PST by strategofr
Moscow Moved Weapons to Syria and Lebanon
According to a former top Bush administration official, Russian special forces teams moved weapons of mass destruction out of Iraq to Syria.
"I am absolutely sure that Russian Spetsnatz units moved WMD out of Iraq before the war," stated John Shaw, the former deputy undersecretary for international technology security. According to Shaw, Russian units hid Saddam's arsenal inside Syria and in Lebanon's Bekka valley.
"While in Iraq I uncovered detailed information that Spetsnatz units shredded records and moved all WMD and specified advanced munitions out of Iraq to Syria and Lebanon," stated Shaw during an exclusive interview.
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The libs and the MSM will be all over this on the Sunday Morning shows...................right!!!!
Has this been reported anywhere else. The only thing I have seen is the General that stated they were moved.
Notice that this was written a year ago...and yet not one MSM reporter/pundit has backed off the "there were NO WMDS", stance.
I don't think they will either...even if we were to go to Syria and dig them up...they would find some way to rationalize that they weren't THE weapons on the list that Colin Powell referred to at the UN....
or...we planted them there...or some other excuse.
The Iraqi General says it was passenger air liners stripped of their seats that were used to ship WMDs. Why not both?
This is an old rumor, which came out a few months after we invaded and didn't find anything. The former head of the Romanian KGB was the source of the news.
"Notice that this was written a year ago...and yet not one MSM reporter/pundit has backed off the "there were NO WMDS", stance.
I don't think they will either.."
True. Bush could, if he chose to, bring it to everyone's attention. I'm not saying for sure he's wrong not to, but he might be.
We'll never know what's the real truth, will we?
Personally, I believe we have the documentation to prove this from the millions of documents seized after the fall of Iraq and more proof from other means. When the President will allow these to be released (if never), we shall see. Until then, let's not get to enthusiastic. After all, it is to easy for the DeathoCrats to smear a report simply because it is done from personal knowledge and has no back up proof.
Documented proof is much tougher to smear, but we all know the DeathoCrats will attempt it when it happens (if ever).
It could have been both...there was probably a heck of a lot to move in a short period of time...since they didn't know for sure when the US would invade..
Also, remember there were Russian officials still in Baghdad the day we invaded...and they barely got out.
I am sure they were trying to get rid of the evidence of their complicity in the WMD program and move.
Another in a list of what Putin has done bad...
It makes sense. I don't have confidence those ragheads could move those weapons without blowing themselves up. Explosives have a tendency to go off around these people, sometimes before they're ready.
I think there must be a security or political reason that Bush doesn't want to reveal what they know about the whereabout of the WMDs...
I think HE is more intent on winning the war on terror, and stabilising Iraq...than proving he was right...especially since at this point we can't get into Syria and look for them (if we haven't already gone and found them)...
Bush is looking LONG term...and I am sure there is a lot that the Pentagon and even the State Department are reluctant to be made known...
Kind of like the NSA wiretaps...
Possiblity not, or not for a long time....there is just so much to do over there...and there may need to be some secrecy for a while.
Yes, I recall that story. Russian military advisors were detained (by either us or the Brits, can't recall which) with a carload of files they were spiriting out of Iraq.
Perhaps. One wonders why the Bush administration would keep this under wraps....like why they killed all follow ups to Clinton misdeeds.
How would anything be proven?
My guess is that much of this stuff isn't even stored in Syria anymore, but the real nasty stuff eventually got moved to russia to either be destroyed or the russians gladly inherited it.
Anyone remember this story?
Old news, short legs in MSM.
There ARE millions of pieces of Iraq correspondence and records that we have custody of ...the problem is getting them translated by people that don't have an agenda...
Plus, we would still have to actually find the WMDs and "show them"...which I think could take a while.
Stephen Hayes of Weekly Standard has followed this from the start...and seems to have the most detailed and up to date hunt for the "proof" and he is even confused and frustrated by the White Houses reluctance to at least make known what they know for sure about the WMDs...
Because he is convinced that pretty much everthing that Bush alleged the Iraqis had...before we went in, they DID have...but, the White House isn't talking about what they know...and all of these documents are languishing, waiting for translators to go over them...
Yes we will...
Right after we find out about the Warren Commission, Flight 800, the Vince Foster Murder, the OKC Bombing, and just who hired Craig Livingstone.
Nobody is going to change what the dems and the MSM have already done with this issue. But I will say that I wouldn't want to be them if the truth ever accidently gets out.
The 'Rats have no interest in the truth. They are the party of historical revisionism and are totally addicted to the practice.
"In an exclusive interview with The Telegraph, Dr Kay, who last week resigned as head of the Iraq Survey Group, said that he had uncovered evidence that unspecified materials had been moved to Syria shortly before last year's war to overthrow Saddam.
"We are not talking about a large stockpile of weapons," he said. "But we know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD programme. Precisely what went to Syria, and what has happened to it, is a major issue that needs to be resolved."
Kay: "I actually think the intelligence community owes the president
(an explanation) rather than the president owing the American people
(an explanation). You have to remember that this view of Iraq (that it
had WMD) was held during the Clinton administration and didn't change
in the Bush administration.
Kay said there was "a constant stream of trucks, cars, rail traffic"
moving from Iraq to Syria. "We simply don't know what was moved," he
said, adding, "The Syrian government has shown absolutely no interest in
helping us resolve this issue."
he told NPR "I think it was reasonable to reach the conclusion that
Iraq posed an imminent threat."
The Pentagon does not want to atagnoise Russia, the "Former" USSR, or China right now.
Ummmmm, don't hold your breath...
Spetsnaz are in Venezuela right now, with their Chinese pals.
Actually, the source of this news is "John Shaw, the former deputy undersecretary for international technology security". If you have some actual information showing that the Romanian is his sole source, do share.
I think you are very right...
and, regardless what some think of Condi..and her politics, she is an expert in Russian history and political history..so she is, I am sure, storing a lot of information NOT for public consumption.
The Clintoon misdeeds go into some very bad places, so bad that even Bush can't go there.
Russian and Chinese espanoge for one.
Well, I doubt I'll be alive.
Wow! What a concept, the "real" truth!
If true, our intelligence failed BIG TIME, especially right before an invasion when you'd think we knew everything happening on the ground.
There's usually a couple versions of truths around, I guess it depends on what kind of proof there is.
The libs and the MSM will be all over this on the Sunday Morning shows
Ha ha ha you funny you make me laugh ha ha
I saw the satellite photos online of a huge convoy moving northwest from Baghdad along the river and west to Syria a few days before we invaded. Now I can't find those photos anywhere.
Real proof will come in the form of a chem barrage from Bekka when the Israelis hit the Iranian nuke sites.
this has been talked about for quite some time.
Russia Hid Saddam's WMDs by Ion Pacepa (head romanian spy who took orders from KGB) Washington Times | October 2, 2003
This thread is 100% gold plated tin foil.
That "top" official was fired by DoD for corruption and his "evidence" was his opinion. This is an old story that "blew" up right in Oct as part of the democrat's October surprise, which died about as quickly in 2004.
Ion Pacepa-- Soviet Romanian mass murderer who switched sides when he saw the fall coming and has become the neocon(artists) favorite hero. The man butchered and oppressed his people in the worst dictatorship since Stalin's. The man should have been put up against the wall with Cecesque, his former master.
Iran has had chemicals for a long time and actively used them on Iraqi civilians during the Iraq-Iran war.
Does intelligence fail? Or is it that partisanship is so bitter that protecting America is put on a back burner?
Partisanship, in reviewing intell prior to the incursion?