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Scientists find frozen methane gas deposit
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^
| January 28, 2006
| ALICIA CHANG
Posted on 01/29/2006 10:31:47 PM PST by neverdem
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posted on
01/29/2006 10:31:48 PM PST
by
neverdem
To: neverdem
some scientists say releasing it could lead to global warming and change the world's climate.Hedging their bets. Warmer, colder, whatever. Industry is bad, that's all.
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posted on
01/29/2006 10:37:37 PM PST
by
Jeff Chandler
(Peace Begins in the Womb)
To: neverdem
Rotten Geologists are always finding more hydrocarbon fuels despite the greenies' proclaimed scarcity. Pity the poor greenies. They're never right. Hysterical pseudo-science never is right. When it appears they might be right and they get a few years run of their dribble, wham!, they're proved wrong.
Oh, yeah, global warming or is it cooling. All a desert? All a glacier?
Some people just like to scream hysterically, but isn't that what rock concerts are for?
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posted on
01/29/2006 10:43:49 PM PST
by
JohnCliftn
(In War: Resolution. In Defeat: Defiance. In Victory: Magnanimity. In Peace: Good Will.)
To: neverdem
Hydrates are estimated to contain about three times as much methane as is currently in the atmosphere, and some scientists say releasing it could lead to global warming and change the world's climate.
We're not just going to pump it up and let it go...
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posted on
01/29/2006 10:50:52 PM PST
by
kenth
To: Jeff Chandler
"Some scientists say releasing it could lead to global warming and change the world's climate."
So could meteors and asteroids crashing into the Earth, nukes in the hands of dictators, and my cousin Mac after eating a large cheese pizza.
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posted on
01/29/2006 10:55:53 PM PST
by
Dallas59
((“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party))
To: neverdem
The newly discovered deposit, believed to be substantial in size, was found about 15 miles off the coast at a depth of about 2,600 feet, at the summit of an undersea mud volcano. What, pray tell, is the freezing point of methane hydrate.
It's not warm 2600 ft down, to be sure, but it's not "freezing". And, if it is associated with a mud volcano, what must the temperature be? And how is it maintained?
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posted on
01/29/2006 10:59:40 PM PST
by
okie01
(The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
To: neverdem
Scientists have discovered an undersea deposit of frozen methane just off the Southern California coast, Well, there's your answer. They could have found a free unending supply of hydrogen, but because it's off the California coast, they could never retrieve it.
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posted on
01/29/2006 11:04:18 PM PST
by
umgud
(uncompassionate conservative)
To: neverdem; SunkenCiv
Very interesting post. Mud volcano, methane, fault zone...what, way beneath might they find next?
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posted on
01/29/2006 11:07:11 PM PST
by
Fred Nerks
(UNDERSTAND ISLAM; Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD pdf link on my Page)
To: neverdem
Hydrates are estimated to contain about three times as much methane as is currently in the atmosphere, and some scientists say releasing it could lead to global warming and change the world's climate. Just a bit of geological speculation, here, but I think the Methane hydrate deposits are part of the Earth's temperature regulation system. During an ice age, sea levels get considerably lower--up to 300 meters lower. At some point, the reduction of hydrostatic pressure on the methane hydrates will cause them to boil off, causing global warming and reversing the climatic trend toward lower temperatures.
Producing these deposits for natural gas just might make the next ice age considerably longer.
Just S.W.A.G.*, I have no research data to back it, but something to consider.
*Scientific Wild-A$$ed Guessing
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posted on
01/29/2006 11:15:45 PM PST
by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
To: umgud
They could have found a free unending supply of hydrogenIt is there, a little salty, and oxidized, but there...
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posted on
01/29/2006 11:17:22 PM PST
by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
To: okie01
What, pray tell, is the freezing point of methane hydrate.If you believe this link, then it seems to be about 18 degrees C.
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posted on
01/29/2006 11:23:27 PM PST
by
neverdem
(May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
To: Smokin' Joe
Go this link. It's the website for the Integrated Ocean Drilling Program. It will tell you all you need to know about gas hydrates and the state of research on them.
The Japanese research vessel Chikyu is also doing hydrate research. Hydrate resources off the coast of Japan are believed to be in the Billions of tons.
http://www.iodp.org/
To: neverdem
Interesting. And the continental shelf deposits are apparently quite stable at around 2 degrees C.
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posted on
01/29/2006 11:32:43 PM PST
by
okie01
(The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
To: neverdem
Hmmm. Angle drill it (for safety), maybe? ...and inject water into the hole to melt it, break it up and float it out?
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posted on
01/29/2006 11:58:35 PM PST
by
familyop
("The Romans and their Empire were but a bauble in comparison to the Jews." --President John Adams)
To: Smokin' Joe
Isn't underwater methane being released suspected in the loss of some of the boats in the Bermuda Triangle?
I seem to remember that it lowers the density of the water, and boats simply don't float on it.
I the morning I will google this and see what I can find.
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posted on
01/30/2006 12:07:38 AM PST
by
Lokibob
(Spelling and typos are copyrighted. Please do not use.)
To: neverdem
The ecosystem surrounding the methane hydrate site was unlike any of the other vast hydrate deposits around the world. Did I hear someone say endangered species?
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posted on
01/30/2006 12:14:59 AM PST
by
FOG724
(Governor Spendanator)
To: neverdem
To: All
To: neverdem
If you believe this link, then it seems to be about 18 degrees C. Doesn't the freezing point vary by pressure?
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posted on
01/30/2006 12:27:23 AM PST
by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
To: Fitzcarraldo; neverdem; okie01
Opps, I should have read to the bottom before replying. Thanks for the chart. I knew pressure changed the temperature on way or another (as it does for the boiling point as well).
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posted on
01/30/2006 12:32:11 AM PST
by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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