Posted on 01/30/2006 4:02:12 PM PST by Gondring
What is it about "illegal" that the so called journalists (aka editorial staff) of the North County Times cannot grasp?
If any of this staff would accurately report the truth, they would mention that groups like the Minutemen and Border Watch are all, without exception, not "anti-immigration" as the NCT falsely portrays them.
These groups and tens of thousands of other concerned citizens and legal immigrants are indeed anti ILLEGAL immigration. There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting the laws of our country strictly enforced. We are a nation of immigrants. Our great nation was built to what it has become by hard working immigrants and their descendants who obeyed the law, came here LEGALLY, and worked towards the American dream. It is irresponsible of the NCT editorial staff to falsely portray any group who wants our laws enforced, our borders secured against the trafficing of drugs, terrorists and modern day slaves.
For some reason I doubt there is anyone on the editorial staff to retract their false and misleading charactarization and begin reporting the truth. If wanting our laws enforced and sending representitives to Washington DC who will work towards that end is extremist, then we need lots more extremists to get elected and less so called journalists who wish to lie their way to assisting in the deteroriation of our great nation.
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...portray groups against illegal immigration as "anti-immigration"...
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It is called LIBERAL SPIN. Turn something ILLEGAL into something LEGAL --- just the typical criminal-supporting libs in action. So predictable.
I don't think that EVERYONE in the Minutemen and Border Watch groups are "anti-immigration" legal or not. But, since we are discussing word usage now, is it even proper to say "illegal immigration" as in all immigration is legal by definition, so those here illegally cannot be called immigrants?
"is it even proper to say "illegal immigration" as in all immigration is legal by definition, so those here illegally cannot be called immigrants?"
Put the beer down and walk away.
What a bunch of bluenoses. I suppose you'll be wanting the assault, robbery and kidnapping laws enforced next.
/sarcasm
Newspapers have what is called a style book, which is politically motivated. As an example in the newspapers you will always see "pro-choice" and "anti-choice," not "pro-life," and the reason is the newspaper style books require the writer of the articles to use those terms.
I'm not saying that's my opinion - I've heard it from those who ARE against all immigration (at least ever since 9/11).
You are absolutely right! Notwithstanding what Toddleintown says, they are Illegal Aliens, not illegal immigrants. Using the word Immigrants gives the connotation that there is some type of implied legality to their presence here which is nonsense.
Only the media and sucophants like yourself call them immigrants, they are ILLEGAL ALIENS!
Criminals, every one of them.
read this
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1567301/posts
An Open Letter to Illegal Immigrants
An Open Letter to Illegal Immigrants
TownHall.com ^ | 29 January, 2006 | Doug Giles
Posted on 01/29/2006 5:41:35 AM PST by Radigan
If I were a Mexican stuck in Mexico, I, too, would grab a jug of aqua, stuff fistfuls of tortillas into a bandana, then tie that knap sack onto the end of a long stick and start my slog north for the Promised Land.
What would be the rationale for my exodus from Santa Ana land? Well, one big reason is the zero opportunity in Mexico. Mexico’s economic future is about as bright as Leif Garrett’s singing career. I’m talking there is nada for the average José. Look, Vicente Fox can only hire out so many pool boys, chefs, drivers, maids, migrant map makers and mistresses. For the rest of the national workforce . . . well, you’re pretty much SOL: sure-outta-luck.
Eclipsing the economic disaster are two other reasons why, if I were a Mexican living in Mexico, I’d be putting the Sierra Madres in my rearview mirror and heading for Marfa: namely, Telemundo and Univision. Yes, if those were the only two channels I could watch on my black and white Philco after a 16-hour day of picking mangos in exchange for two chickens, I would walk through the desert for hundreds of miles, brave banditos, eat horny toads, drink mud, bake in the sun, swim the Rio Grande, scale the Big Bend mountains and wrestle pumas just to get away from that tacky entertainment and to get here to the States where I could enjoy Fox News and OLN. Therefore, as compassionate conservatives, we’ve got to cut these guys some slack. We, too, would want out of such a dysfunctional banana republic.\
Now, having said that, let me address mi amigos that want to move into our amazing Land-O-Plenty: Would you mind immigrating legally and learning English? Because, you see, our legal citizens are getting increasingly fed up with your criminal relocation dreams. That’s right. Our American buddies on the Arizona, California, New Mexico and Texas borders are especially sick of . . .
• Having their land trashed like a hotel room after Motley Crew spent the weekend there. [One Indian Reservation picks up trash to the tune of six tons a day. Would you please stop that? It’s rude, and it’s threatening the existence of a certain lizard and the Sonoran Pronghorn antelope. Thanks.]
• Having their ranches’ fencing routinely cut and vandalized. • Having to pick up your pill bottles, used needles and syringes. • Having to find the half eaten remains of their pets left from one of your impromptu BBQ’s. • Having their homes burglarized. • Having their daughters raped. • Having their vehicles stolen. • Having their property value plummet. • Having their sedate streets become unsafe requiring their children to be placed under lock and key after sunset. • Having to pick up and discard Muslim prayer rugs and literature strafed about the place. [BTW . . . when did so many Catholic Mexicans convert to Islam? I didn’t get that brief. Would you explain that to me?] • Having the arduous and unpleasant chore of scraping human feces off their front lawns in the morning.
Call us Americans fastidious, but we no likey the aforementioned; and the above is not causing us to take a shining to your desires to resettle here.
Let me help would-be Mexican immigrants understand exactly where we’re coming from. Our nation’s leniency regarding immigration has been used as a night stick to whup our own butt. Our nation’s compassionate openness, plus the corrupt incompetence of the former INS, plus our government’s greed for foreign capital equaled a rolled-out welcome mat for the 9/11 terrorists and other thieves and thugs who looked to use us while they attempted to destroy us. So excuse us, por favor, if we don’t seem too giddy about receiving new guests into our home; we’re still cleaning up after the last ones who tried to destroy the place.
Look, if you want to come here and visit, work or possibly live in the US of A, you must understand that it is a privilege. Be very clear on one fact: it is NOT a right. We don’t have to do anything.
In addition, we want people who dream the American dream [once again, in English], who crave what we crave and who will approach us respectfully, legally and . . . if you don’t mind terribly . . . pardon my redundancy, in English. And get this straight: our demand for a more stringent border has nothing—nothing!—to do with xenophobia. Rather, it is rooted in a love for our country. We like it here. We see it as a privilege and an honor to live here. And we want to make sure that when letting others join us in this privilege and honor, we are rewarding the credible who have waited, not the criminal who has manipulated. So, my advice is to immigrate correctly . . . do it right . . . and if you choose not to—don’t think it unkind if you get tossed on your head right back to where you came from.
The definition doesn't mention legality. I'd guess you've been a wee bit influenced by the MSM.
O.K. then - I guess I'll go get me that beer now.
I'm not the one who has an issue with the dictionary definition (see above).
But, since we are discussing word usage now, is it even proper to say "illegal immigration" as in all immigration is legal by definition, so those here illegally cannot be called immigrants?
Pardon me... I presumed that I understood written English, but your sentence got the best of me.
Read the rest of my posts above - posting a question does not necessarily imply one's opinion - it's called the Socratic Method of teaching in fact. For instance:
"Do you guys think we should all vote Hillary Clinton for President in 2008?"
What do you think of the dictionary definition?
immigrate: : to come into a country of which one is not a native for permanent residence
The definition doesn't mention legality. I'd guess you've been a wee bit influenced by the MSM.
Down here they're referred to as "Undocumented Workers".
"I'm only against ILLEGAL immigration" is a code-phrase for "please don't call me a racist", "anti-immigrant" is a code-phrase for "you're a racist." Immigration policy is about race, everybody knows it, but nobody really wants to bring it out in the open.
My major issue with immigration is: we have far too many Mexicans who have no wish to become Americans. They'd rather reconstruct Mexico here, and I don't like it one bit.
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