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Darwinist Ideologues Are on the Run
Human Events Online ^ | Jan 31, 2006 | Allan H. Ryskind

Posted on 01/30/2006 10:27:35 PM PST by Sweetjustusnow

The two scariest words in the English language? Intelligent Design! That phrase tends to produce a nasty rash and night sweats among our elitist class.

Should some impressionable teenager ever hear those words from a public school teacher, we are led to believe, that student may embrace a secular heresy: that some intelligent force or energy, maybe even a god, rather than Darwinian blind chance, has been responsible for the gazillions of magnificently designed life forms that populate our privileged planet.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crevolist; delusionalnutjobs; evolution; idiocy; ignoranceisstrength; intelligentdesign; whataloadoffeces
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To: Siena Dreaming

"But the theory of man coming from apes is much more logical..../sarcasm."

....sounds like The French Enlightenment claiming that it is not possible that donkeys and horses belong to the same group....


41 posted on 01/31/2006 12:26:14 AM PST by Teletubbed (Multiculturalism, (coll. Paradise), [Successor of Communism], Leftist-approved, Islamic Revolution)
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To: phelanw
Why? Teach it and present the best possible refutations of it. That's real education. Education is always a dialogue between opposing viewpoints. Indoctrination is presenting the "truth." Always? Should be bring in holocaust deniers to discuss the holocaust? Willwe arrive at the truth more readily by hearing their views? Should we bring in flat-earthers to discuss astronomy? Is heliocentrism a theory that is subject to debate? ID is not a competing theory to evolution.
42 posted on 01/31/2006 12:36:38 AM PST by Bubbatuck ("Hillary Clinton can kiss my ass" - Tim Robbins)
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To: GLDNGUN; ThinkDifferent
[Yeah, I'm particularly impressed with our appendixes and backwards-wired eyes. But we can't expect God to be perfect, can we?]

Come on, you're smarter than that.

If you want to give him even more credit, go right ahead.

Are you suggesting that today we know EVERYTHING about the human body?

No, he isn't, nor are his observations based on any such requirement. Work on your reading comprehension.

Is the appendix the only part of the human body that was said to serve no purpose?

No, it isn't, but in any case, why are you changing the subject? He's speaking of suboptimal design, not vestigial features. And we've dealt with your misconceptions about the appendix previously.

What happened to all the others?

They're still there. Quick, why do you get goosebumps when you're cold or scared? Hint: It was functional back when our distant ancesters had fur. It's useless now that we have sparse fuzz on most of our skin. Bigger hint: For an animal with fur, the tiny muscular reactions at the base of hair follicles which we call "goosebumps" raises the fur, fluffing it up for warmth (when cold) and to make the animal look bigger and more imposing when faced with a threat it might have to fight (when feeling fear). But it's freaking useless for humans. Now, did "The Designer" give us goosebump reflexes (and the mechanism which makes it work mechanically) because a) he thought we were furry, or b) he was a lousy designer and gave us stuff we couldn't use, or c) because the designer was evolution, and we inherited our "goosebump" mechanism from ancestors with fur and it's a vestigial and now useless feature now that we're not covered in fur?

A similar thing happened to shorthaired dachshunds. The other day my wiener dog was barking at another dog, and the "fur" on her back stood up. Of course, she has fur about 1/8 of an inch long, so it did nothing whatsoever to make her look bigger and more imposing (nor would it keep her any warmer), it just made a stripe up the middle of her back turn a darker shade of reddish brown. Ooh, scary! She, like us, inherited her "fur raising" feature from an ancestor in which it was a lot more useful (in her case, the wolves which are the ancestors of domestic dogs, which have long enough fur that the fur-raising mechanism actually performs a useful function).

OOPS!

Indeed. You must be used to saying that by now

43 posted on 01/31/2006 12:45:16 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Rembrandt_fan

Post #35 - well said. There's a definite line between what's provenly known and what is theory. It is to our misfortune that so much money and fame is able to be had for spreading theories the populace feels "more comfortable with" without a shred of evidence to back them up.

Never let actual facts stand between an otherwise skill-less academic and a sought after tenure.


44 posted on 01/31/2006 12:46:11 AM PST by NewRomeTacitus (Trust and Faith.)
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To: TheCrusader


No "evolutionist" today believes in Piltdown man.

Who uncovered the hoax? It was the "evolutionists", not the creationists.

Piltdown is evidence that the scientific method works.


45 posted on 01/31/2006 12:47:29 AM PST by Bubbatuck ("Hillary Clinton can kiss my ass" - Tim Robbins)
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To: phelanw
"Why? Teach it and present the best possible refutations of it. That's real education. Education is always a dialogue between opposing viewpoints. Indoctrination is presenting the "truth." "

My thoughts exactly. A real science education would equip students to challenge or defend any theory. One just has to look what happens on FR, whenever this topic comes up. The controversy creates a great incentive for learning.
46 posted on 01/31/2006 12:49:26 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA (")
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To: spunkets

"1001001 1000100 0100000 1101001 1110011 1101110 1110100 100000 1110011 1100011 1101001 1100101 1101110 1100011 1100101 100001"


I'll "byte" -- what does this mean?


47 posted on 01/31/2006 12:53:24 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA (")
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Unfortunately, there's no real distinction between "theory" and "what's provenly known". In science, theory does not mean "hypothesis". A theory is about the highest level an idea can achieve. The Theory of Gravity is pretty well-established.

But of course, anybody who reads these threads already knows that. They still keep mis-representing what a "theory" is. Their motives for doing so, I shall keep to myself.


48 posted on 01/31/2006 12:58:14 AM PST by Bubbatuck ("Hillary Clinton can kiss my ass" - Tim Robbins)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA; spunkets
"1001001 1000100 0100000 1101001 1110011 1101110 1110100 100000 1110011 1100011 1101001 1100101 1101110 1100011 1100101 100001"

I'll "byte" -- what does this mean?

Substitute the ASCII character equivalent for each binary value and it'll give a message.

It translates to: "ID isnt science". I'm not sure why he left out the apostrophe, it would be: "100111".

49 posted on 01/31/2006 1:13:36 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: SteveMcKing
Truth is not changeable. Point of view, philosophy, theory, tax law, fads, magnetic poles, all change. Find the unchangeable and keep an open mind about the rest.
50 posted on 01/31/2006 1:14:29 AM PST by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: MedicalMess

"Now how does God work? I get it now!" - I don't think so.

"God made the earth which means he wasn't from here, which means he was alien to this world. He had to be from somewhere else because the earth wasn't here before God. Since two things can't occupy the same space..." - See... you don't get it. God is in everything. He who made the laws of science can change and break them.

"And you want to impress the rest of us with your intellectual maturity and scientific reasoning?" - And you think your inane post is full of intellectual maturity and scientific reasoning? Do you even have a logical point? Oh and by the way where is that dang missing link?


51 posted on 01/31/2006 1:14:38 AM PST by GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos (Feminism... Didn't they achieve their goals yet? Guess not! lol)
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To: Ichneumon

You should pray to the Lord to give you the insight to realize that God created evolution, not Darwin.


52 posted on 01/31/2006 1:19:33 AM PST by GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos (Feminism... Didn't they achieve their goals yet? Guess not! lol)
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To: GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos
Oh and by the way where is that dang missing link?

In post #14, and it's not missing.

53 posted on 01/31/2006 1:35:36 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Siena Dreaming
Geological evidence does not provide us with the spectrum of intermediate species we would expect. Moreover, laboratory experiments reveal how close to impossible it is for one species to evolve into another, even allowing for selective breeding and some genetic mutation.

Unless you have INCREDIBLE FAITH!!! Me, I just don't have the INCREDIBLE FAITH it takes to BELIEVE in EVOLUTION....

54 posted on 01/31/2006 1:57:34 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: december12
To say that the theory of evolution has lacunae is one thing, but that doesn't justify ID. Many other theories are conceivable

Of course. Extreterestial life experiments...

55 posted on 01/31/2006 1:58:52 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: TheCrusader
Darwin himself wrote that unless and until the missing linking fossils and transitional forms are uncovered his theory is dead in the water?

Oh how inconvenient is that...

56 posted on 01/31/2006 2:04:03 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Sweetjustusnow
"“Can you tell me anything you know about evolution, any one thing, any one thing that you think is true? I tried that question on the geology staff at the Field Museum of Natural History and the only answer I got was silence. I tried it on the members of the Evolutionary Morphology seminar at the University of Chicago, a very prestigious body of evolutionists, and all I got there was silence for a long time and eventually one person said: ‘I do know one thing—it ought not to be taught in high school.’”

Science is a great thing. Not for the religious cult of Evolutionists however. Geology sciences prove a young earth, and also a great flood, more than a flood, a disaster unimaginable. The entire crust of the earth collapsed inward, blew apart, and shifted. Comets and meteors today are remnants of the huge forces that happened in a matter of days and weeks. Hydoplate theory is supported by science, unlike Evolution. for anyone interested read it here: Hydroplate theory

57 posted on 01/31/2006 2:05:25 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Ichneumon
These Creationists make me sick. They are nothing more than a bunch of con people. They are evil in that they try to tear people from the truth so they can manipulate them and get their money for their own personal gain. They add nothing to the betterment of mankind and cause others horrible pain with their quackery.

These people would tell you to prey for good health when people need to seek professional care. They create false hopes. They manufacture barriers to objective thinking and problem analysis. They are individuals who prey on others' emotions instead of intellect. Creationist are liars and thieves. They are murders of the human spirit.
58 posted on 01/31/2006 2:06:35 AM PST by MedicalMess
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To: Ichneumon
Quick, why do you get goosebumps when you're cold or scared? Hint: It was functional back when our distant ancesters had fur.

Oh boy... That is just down right laughable! These same idiots who claim that is why we get goosebumbs, are also the ones that said things like "the appendix is useless, serves no function, leftover from our earlier days", and other equally PROFOUNDLY, IGNORANT MUTTERINGS.

59 posted on 01/31/2006 2:09:06 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: MedicalMess
They are nothing more than a bunch of con people. They are evil in that they try to tear people from the truth so they can manipulate them and get their money for their own personal gain

That so PERFECTLY decribes the large number of PHONY evolution 'discoveries' and frauds that have perpetrated.

60 posted on 01/31/2006 2:11:45 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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