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Libby's Lawyers Seek Papers on Plame's CIA Employment
Washington Post ^ | 2/1/06 | Carol D. Leonnig

Posted on 02/01/2006 8:25:40 AM PST by frankjr

Attorneys for Vice President Cheney's former chief of staff urged a court yesterday to force a prosecutor to turn over CIA records indicating whether former CIA operative Valerie Plame's employment was classified, saying the answer is not yet clear.

The defense team for I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby also asked that the court require Special Counsel Patrick J. Fitzgerald to turn over any informal assessments conducted by the CIA to determine whether the leak of Plame's identity in July 2003 damaged national security or agency operations.

Defense lawyers argued in court papers that it is crucial to determine whether Plame was not an undercover operative at the time Libby was discussing her with members of the media, and whether little or no damage was done to national security when her identity was publicly disclosed.

If either is true, the defense argued, it will "challenge the prosecution's contention that Mr. Libby has reason to lie to the FBI and the grand jury about his conversations with reporters in July 2003."

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KEYWORDS: cialead; cialeak; deskjockey; plame
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To: angkor

Do we yet know who referred this for investigation? Tenet?


81 posted on 02/01/2006 9:14:20 PM PST by STARWISE (Sedition:an illegal action inciting resistance to lawful authority- to cause the overthrow of govt)
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To: the Real fifi
Simply and breifly--(a) To constitute perjury, the question wmust be material, deliberately false and before a competent tribunal. I have probelms with 2 out of 3 of these.

I assume then that you assert that Libby's statements are not material, and are not deliberately false.

Going for the "meaning of 'is'" defense? The indictment is clear on these points, and earlier posts discuss the political and personal motives for avoidance of being a known, legal leaker.

(b)To find obstruction, you must show that the defendant deliberately impeded a material line of inquiry. On this I find the indictment lacking two out of two

Not material, I assume on account of Plame not being covert. Good luck with that. Likewise good luck that Libby "accidentally" or "forgetfully" omitted noting his inquiry to the CIA. C'mon - if you know something FOR A FACT, do you forget that?

(c) If I am wrong, and the lines of inquiry are material and proper, I find it at least as likely that the reporters recollections are wrong as that Libby was deliberately lying ...

Demonstrating that you don't comprehend the point of my previous post. The contest is NOT between the memory of Libby and the memory of reporters.

82 posted on 02/01/2006 9:32:44 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt; the Real fifi
Not material, I assume on account of Plame not being covert. Good luck with that.

I'm not a lawyer, but it does seem there's something fundamentally wrong and askew when an alleged perjury is charged by a prosecutor who also KNOWS FOR A FACT that he is investigating a crime that did not occur.

Fitzgerald knew from the very outset of his investigation whether Plame was or was not covert, and he knew it for a fact under color of the Identities Act, and from there he proceeded on what looks like an entrapment hunt.

I cannot believe that the law allows this sort of behavior, because it is just fundamentally wrong on its face.

83 posted on 02/02/2006 12:40:21 AM PST by angkor
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To: frankjr

Was this the thing Bush was supposed to get impeached over before the current thing or was it some other impeachable thing?


84 posted on 02/02/2006 12:45:14 AM PST by woofie
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To: woofie

I think Bush was supposed to get impeached for eavesdropping on terrorists who live on Downing Street and have panties on their heads. Something like that. I think there was a memo about it.


85 posted on 02/02/2006 12:57:26 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: dirtboy; frankjr
This is why Libby's new lawyer charges the big bucks. He's has a three fold strategy here. 1) if he cannot get get the records for any reason, then he can get some of the charges dismissed ; 2) He may be calling fitz bluff ; 3) and if fitz does have the records, he could make a materiality case out of them, if he has too.
86 posted on 02/02/2006 9:42:41 AM PST by Perdogg ("Facts are stupid things." - President Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Cboldt

Is it possible that Libby first heard about Plame from reporters, then had the information confirmed by the CIA?


87 posted on 02/02/2006 9:59:23 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: frankjr
"What do you think is up with Rove's status in this investigation? No new news/leaks in quite some time."

Fitzzzzzz is in hiding licking his wounds. He is waiting to see how he does with Libby. I suspect that is he gets his butt wiped, he will quit the investigation. His fame will be tarnished.
88 posted on 02/02/2006 10:18:17 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Steve_Seattle
Is it possible that Libby first heard about Plame from reporters, then had the information confirmed by the CIA?

Sure. But even if so, that wouldn't change the outcome if the allegations in the indictment are true.

89 posted on 02/02/2006 11:43:40 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: frankjr

"What do you think is up with Rove's status in this investigation?"

My guess is Fitzgerald's staff is busy enough with Libby's case, and Rove is on the back burner.


90 posted on 02/02/2006 12:47:07 PM PST by popdonnelly
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