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Posted on 02/02/2006 7:40:25 AM PST by ZGuy
Our economic system is unsustainable by its very nature. The only response to climate chaos and peak oil is major social change.
There is no meaningful response to climate change without massive social change. We cannot sustain earth's life-support systems within the present economic system.
Capitalism is not sustainable by its very nature. And yet this ideological model remains the central organising principle of our lives, and as long as it continues to be so it will automatically undo (with its invisible hand) every single green initiative anybody cares to come up with.
Power concentrates around wealth. Only by breaking up corporate power and bringing it under social control will we be able to overcome the global environmental crisis.
Supermarkets are over. We cannot have such long supply lines between us and our food. Not any more. The very model of the supermarket is unsustainable.
We are caught between the Scylla and Charybdis of climate change and peak oil. Once we pass the planetary oil production spike (when oil begins rapidly to deplete and demand outstrips supply), there will be less and less net energy available to humankind. Petroleum geologists reckon we will pass the world oil spike sometime between 2006 and 2010. It will take, argues peak-oil expert Richard Heinberg, a second world war effort if many of us are to come through this epoch.
Catch-22, of course, is that the very worst fate that could befall our species is the discovery of huge new reserves of oil, because the climate chaos that would unleash would make the mere collapse of industrial society a sideshow bagatelle.
You can either have capitalism or a habitable planet. One or the other, not both.
(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...
He should start a party and run on that platform...Wait, the democrats already exist.
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Gee, if Capitalists are such environment-wrecking pigs, how come the USSR and China were/are some of the worst polluters the world has ever known?
A Green Economy. It's the new Marxism.
That is the scariest damn thing I've ever read.
It's pretty obvious that the more industrialized and capitalized an economy is, the cleaner it is. These people are too blinded by ideaology to see their noses.
China has the worst environmental record now, and they work hand in hand with 'capitalists'.
The free enterprise system is the best for protection of invidividual rights and the 'environment'.
Fine then. We'll take Earth, and you can have Mars. It's already "Red" and its got no pollution, no supermarkets, and no SUV's.
"A Green Economy. It's the new Marxism."
Yep. The same old tired communist are trying to do indirectly what they tried to do directly.
You can see this is you look at the funding of most of this junk.
Man, oh, man. What a maroon! Everyday and for all his life, this goober has gone to work in a capitalist system and bought food at a market. Yet, somehow he comes to the conclusion the two are incompatible and unsustainable. It's like denying sunrise or the seasons. Betcha he's a born and reared urbanite. He's also Captain Oblivious.
If you do it,pal,you can be sure that the Kerrys,Kennedys and Clintons will follow your lead.
Methinks this gentleman doesn't understand capitalism very well. Capitalism rewards those who provide a good or service that the consumers want. I *guarantee* that if a majority (or hell, even a plurality) of consumers began demanding environment-friendly goods and services, the providers *will* begin providing them. The hybrid car is a perfect example.
The beauty of capitalism is that it is a feedback loop. The consumer creates demand for a good or service, the provider provides it. As demand shifts, so must the provider change the good or service provided to meet the new demand. It's an endlessly self-refining cycle.
Yeah, and we all know that the Soviet Union and Red China were paragons of environmentalism.
What a pantload.
· rnewman@dircon.co.uk
Email this moron.
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