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CIA Chief Says Wiretap Disclosure Damaging (Democrats nervous)
Associated Press ^ | 2 Feb 06 | KATHERINE SHRADER

Posted on 02/02/2006 10:50:14 AM PST by SkyPilot

WASHINGTON - CIA Director Porter Goss said Thursday that the disclosure of President Bush's eavesdropping-without-warrants program and other once-secret projects had undermined U.S. intelligence-gathering abilities.

"The damage has been very severe to our capabilities to carry out our mission," Goss told the Senate Intelligence Committee. He said a federal grand jury should be empaneled to determine "who is leaking this information."

His testimony came after National Intelligence Director John Negroponte, who directs all intelligence activities, strongly defended the program, calling it crucial for protecting the nation against its most menacing threat.

"This was not about domestic surveillance," Negroponte said.

Leaders of the nation's intelligence agencies appeared before the panel in a rare public session to give a rundown on threats facing the world.

Negroponte called al-Qaida and associated terror groups the "top concern" of the U.S. intelligence community, followed closely by the nuclear activities of Iran and North Korea.

Committee Democrats sought to change the focus to the president's decision to authorize the National Security Agency to eavesdrop — without first obtaining warrants — on communications to and from those in the United States and terror suspects abroad.

"The president has not only confirmed the existence of the program, he has spoken at length about it repeatedly," while keeping Congress in the dark, said Sen. Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, the panel's senior Democrat.

"The administration wants to have it both ways," said Sen. Carl Levin (news, bio, voting record), D-Mich.

Goss complained that leaks to the news media about the surveillance program and activities such as reported CIA secret prisons abroad had damaged his own agency's work.

CIA Director Porter Goss, and FBI Director Robert Mueller, right, talk as they prepare for the U.S. Select Committee on Intelligence hearing to examine the world threat, on Capitol Hill, Thursday, Feb. 2, 2006 in Washington. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta) Email Photo Print Photo

"I use the words `very severe' intentionally. And I think the evidence will show that," Goss said.

He said not only have these revelations made it harder for the CIA to gather information, but they have made intelligence agencies in other countries mistrustful of their U.S. counterparts.

"I'm stunned to the quick when I get questions from my professional counterparts saying, `Mr. Goss, can't you Americans keep a secret?'" he said.

Goss cited a "disruption to our plans, things that we have under way." Some CIA sources and "assets" had been rendered "no longer viable or usable, or less effective by a large degree," he said.

"I also believe that there has been an erosion of the culture of secrecy and we're trying to reinstall that," Goss said.

"I've called in the FBI, the Department of Justice. It is my aim and it is my hope that we will witness a grand jury investigation with reporters present, being asked to reveal who is leaking this information," he said.

Rockefeller suggested that the "leaks" Goss talked about most likely "came from the executive branch" of the government.

That brought a terse response from FBI Director Robert Mueller, who said, "It's not fair to point a finger as to the responsibility of the leak."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaida; cia; cialeak; democrats; enemywithin; espionage; fifthcolumn; intelligence; leaking; leaks; nationalsecurity; nsa; nsaleak; portergoss; rattreason; rattricks; rockerfeller; spying; topsecret; traitor; treason; unamerican; waronterror; waronterrorism; wiretapping; wot
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1 posted on 02/02/2006 10:50:16 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Boy don't the guilty squirm when the full light and heat are applied.


2 posted on 02/02/2006 10:52:12 AM PST by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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To: prairiebreeze; Mo1

The damage has been very severe to our capabilities to carry out our mission," Goss told the Senate Intelligence Committee. He said a federal grand jury should be empaneled to determine "who is leaking this information."


3 posted on 02/02/2006 10:53:02 AM PST by Peach
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To: SkyPilot
Rockefeller suggested that the "leaks" Goss talked about most likely "came from the executive branch" of the government.

STFU you traitorous snake before more die needlessly.

5 posted on 02/02/2006 10:53:25 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: SkyPilot
"I've called in the FBI, the Department of Justice. It is my aim and it is my hope that we will witness a grand jury investigation with reporters present, being asked to reveal who is leaking this information," he said.

UH OH....a very big shoe dropped.

That thud you heard was just PINCH and Risen fainting.

6 posted on 02/02/2006 10:53:59 AM PST by Dog
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To: Southack; Cap Huff; Coop

Fyi..


7 posted on 02/02/2006 10:55:17 AM PST by Dog
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To: handy old one
Yes. This sentence was meant (deliberately) to alarm Democrats and the media.

He said a federal grand jury should be empaneled to determine "who is leaking this information."

That means that anyone in government who has broken the law, violated their security clearance agreements, and undermined US national security should be held accountable.

President Bush was clear from the beginning about this, and the CIA Director chose his words very carefully.

This is good news.

8 posted on 02/02/2006 10:55:20 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: handy old one

Who's the guilty that's squirm?


9 posted on 02/02/2006 10:56:25 AM PST by SIRTRIS
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To: SIRTRIS

See post # 8


10 posted on 02/02/2006 10:57:53 AM PST by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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To: SkyPilot

Time to put a New York Times reporter in front of a grand jury and find the source of the leak.


11 posted on 02/02/2006 10:58:30 AM PST by colorado tanker (We need more "chicken-bleep Democrats in the Senate"!)
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To: SkyPilot

This is good news only if they plan to actually prosecute anybody they catch.


12 posted on 02/02/2006 10:58:33 AM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: SkyPilot

bump


13 posted on 02/02/2006 10:59:32 AM PST by jdhljc169
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To: SkyPilot
DOH!

The RATs are 'squirmin now! Hey Hellary... what was that look you gave our president Tuesday nite?!


14 posted on 02/02/2006 11:00:03 AM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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To: Baynative
You are wrong....this one goes to the leaking of sources and methods....this one they will take to the mat to find out who leaked.

Goss cited a "disruption to our plans, things that we have under way." Some CIA sources and "assets" had been rendered "no longer viable or usable, or less effective by a large degree," he said.

Assets WERE COMPROMISED.....the leaker is in a world of trouble.

15 posted on 02/02/2006 11:00:32 AM PST by Dog
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To: Baynative
"Jane Fonda, John Kerry, Jim McDerrmott, Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan have virtually eliminated the idea of treason being punishable."

Your missing the point. The rules are always different for the kooks. The main stream DEMs are worried about "06". McDerrmott and Kerry's seats in congress are a sure bet. The rest of them will have to watch it from now on.
16 posted on 02/02/2006 11:02:24 AM PST by wmileo
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To: SkyPilot

JAY ROCKEFELLER....HE'S THE LEAKER...when you see him these days...he's got an 'OH SHIT' look on his face.


17 posted on 02/02/2006 11:04:10 AM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: Peach; Mo1; Howlin

I watched it. Rockefeller blamed the leak on the executive branch, AG's office or Justice Dept. I forget who did it be he got his ass handed to him after the accusation.


18 posted on 02/02/2006 11:07:47 AM PST by hipaatwo
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To: SkyPilot

I'm available for firing squad duty.
I volunteer to apply the coup de grace.


19 posted on 02/02/2006 11:07:58 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Democrats would rather whine than win)
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To: shield

read my post 18 about Rockefeller.


21 posted on 02/02/2006 11:08:29 AM PST by hipaatwo
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To: handy old one

The guilty should be squirming at the end of a rope. But somehow, I don't think that the white flag Republicans (and that's most of them) have the cojones to make that happen.

"Treason never prospers.
What's the reason?
For when it prospers,
none dare call it treason."


22 posted on 02/02/2006 11:08:34 AM PST by Noumenon (Liberal activist judges - out of touch, out of tune, but not out of reach.)
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To: hipaatwo

Rockefeller is the source of so many leaks, imo, it behooves him to try and deflect attention away from himself.


23 posted on 02/02/2006 11:09:29 AM PST by Peach
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To: hipaatwo

I just saw that!!


24 posted on 02/02/2006 11:09:55 AM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: Baynative

I'm afraid you're right. RATS see treason as a badge of honor.


25 posted on 02/02/2006 11:10:38 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Baynative

"Jane Fonda, John Kerry, Jim McDerrmott, Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan have virtually eliminated the idea of treason being punishable."

For the moment, but things have a way of changing. I hope so anyway.


26 posted on 02/02/2006 11:10:56 AM PST by alarm rider (Irritating leftists as often as is humanly possible....)
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To: SkyPilot

I see Rockefeller and Levin are squealing like the stuck pigs they are.


27 posted on 02/02/2006 11:11:18 AM PST by PogySailor (Semper Fi to the 3/1 H&S Company in Haditha.)
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To: SkyPilot

"Book 'em, Danno."
Traitors should be hanged.


28 posted on 02/02/2006 11:11:25 AM PST by talleyman (Kerry & the Surrender-Donkey Treasoncrats - trashing the troops for 40 years.)
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To: Howlin

I was hoping there was a live thread. I didn't put one up because I haven't been able to stay on the computer that long these days. I'll tell you if it replays you must watch it. It was amazing to see.


29 posted on 02/02/2006 11:11:35 AM PST by hipaatwo
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To: hipaatwo

You better believe there is a reason Goss mentioned a grand jury right in front of Rockefeller. He didn't have to. It wasn't really relevant to the line of questioning. This was one big-time shot across the bow of the sinking ship Rockefeller.


30 posted on 02/02/2006 11:12:28 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (Only losers boast about how close it was)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

I saw this too. What I didn't understand, is did Goss say a grand jury has been empanneled, or should be empanneled? I also thought it quite telling that Rockerfeller pointed the finger at someone else as being the leaker. It was the Director of FBI (Muehler?) who took Rocky to task when he stated that the leak was from the executive branch. I wish that someone on the pubbie side of the committee had brought up the Rocky memo, which of course, detailed his plans to release classified information to undermine the President and the WOT. But alas, no one did; at least not while I was watching.


31 posted on 02/02/2006 11:15:28 AM PST by Laverne
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
I'm available for firing squad duty.

Firing squad hell. I have a very dull hatchet and I volunteer to do the job. Might take a while, but it'll get done.

32 posted on 02/02/2006 11:16:04 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Dog
the leaker is in a world of trouble.

The leaker is probably a Senator or Congressman and mothing will happen to them.

We have many traitors serving as elected officials. We had them serving during WW II, and we did little to them, so don't expect much to happen today.

33 posted on 02/02/2006 11:17:11 AM PST by itsahoot (Any country that does not control its borders, is not a country. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Shut down ALL committees in the Senate and refuse to give out any information until all have been through a lie-detector test (better have multiple machines as they're liable to breakdown upon seeing so many lies democrats spewed out). If a senator refuses to take the test, then NO COMMITTEE appointment will be allowed for them.


34 posted on 02/02/2006 11:18:44 AM PST by princess leah
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To: ozzymandus

"I'm afraid you're right. RATS see treason as a badge of honor."

Worse! They see it as a patriotic duty that much is higher than protecting this country.


35 posted on 02/02/2006 11:20:09 AM PST by Hayzo
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To: SkyPilot
"The damage has been very severe to our capabilities to carry out our mission"

This is bad to hear from the CIA Director. Yet, it receives nowhere near the focus that Valerie Plame did.
36 posted on 02/02/2006 11:23:15 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Dog
"I use the words `very severe' intentionally. And I think the evidence will show that," Goss said.

Not a shot across the bow. This is "ready or not, here they (the Feds) come . . ."

I realize that after all these years of libs getting away with this stuff many of us have become jaded, some cynical, but this time they are saying that GWB should be impeached for what he has been doing. They will not drop it. The Justice Department will be saying don't call us, we'll be calling you!

37 posted on 02/02/2006 11:25:28 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: handy old one
He said a federal grand jury should be empaneled to determine "who is leaking this information."

Bloody right! Zero tolerance to those who give aid and comfort to the enemy!

Treat them the same as we did to traitors during the Great War.

38 posted on 02/02/2006 11:26:37 AM PST by LouAvul
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To: SkyPilot

building scaffold in backyard now...just doing my part for old glory...


39 posted on 02/02/2006 11:27:36 AM PST by wildcatf4f3 (the friend of my enemy is my enemy)
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To: SkyPilot
"The president has not only confirmed the existence of the program, he has spoken at length about it repeatedly," while keeping Congress in the dark, said Sen. Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, the panel's senior Democrat.

Rockefeller is a bald-faced liar.

40 posted on 02/02/2006 11:28:26 AM PST by Wolfstar (Someday when we meet up yonder, we'll stroll hand in hand again, in a land that knows no parting...)
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To: advance_copy

So right on the money!
It is pathetic (but understandable) that Rocky and his buddies can buy anybody.... biz as usual...
Is that my dog??? Oh, never mind, is DC blowing this way...


41 posted on 02/02/2006 11:29:03 AM PST by elpinta (Some days it just isn't worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: SkyPilot

Rhetoric and Reality collide producing the Ultimate Reality. The Rhetoric: "Bush is violating the FISA Act by engaging in domestic wiretapping, listening into our most intimate phone conversations and monitoring his political foes." The Reality: "Bush is listening into phone calls originating from abroad without a warrant and without going to FISA as did his predecessors because FISA does not cover such wiretaps and the Courts have held such activities to be firmly within Executive Authority."

And now, the ULTIMATE REALITY: "Somebody leaked this information and damaged our national security. That person better find a good lawyer because that person is NOT A WHISTELBLOWER, but rather a soon to be convicted felon. Oh, and P.S. that person may have been questioning Mr. Goss et. al. today."


42 posted on 02/02/2006 11:29:35 AM PST by FlipWilson
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ROFLMAO!!! I just knew someone would take that pic and work some Photoshop magic with it.


43 posted on 02/02/2006 11:29:54 AM PST by Wolfstar (Someday when we meet up yonder, we'll stroll hand in hand again, in a land that knows no parting...)
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To: SkyPilot


CNN's Paula Zahn claimed that "a lot of people out there" are saying that "if you vote for a Democrat, that basically you want to be bombed."

44 posted on 02/02/2006 11:30:30 AM PST by John Lenin ("if you vote for a Democrat, that basically you want to be bombed.")
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To: SkyPilot

I wondered why Rockerfeller was looking like a deer caught in the headlights! I hope they connect him to this.


45 posted on 02/02/2006 11:35:47 AM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: SkyPilot
...while keeping Congress in the dark

Goss complained that leaks to the news media about the surveillance program and activities such as reported CIA secret prisons abroad had damaged his own agency's work.

Cause and effect, or rather vice-versa. If the DemonRATs weren't in such a hurry to undermine this administration (even at the cost of damaging national security), they wouldn't have to be kept in the dark. Easy solution: Dems, keep your oath to protect and defend the country, and you might be trusted again.

46 posted on 02/02/2006 11:37:42 AM PST by shezza (7 and a wake-up)
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To: SkyPilot

Goss is a good man with a tough job.

Haul Rockefellar and all the rest before a Grand Jury. Convict the guilt and march them before the firing squad. I want it brought back. It's the only way to deal with Treason.


47 posted on 02/02/2006 11:40:53 AM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: Peach
`Mr. Goss, can't you Americans keep a secret?'"

Goss should accurately reply "Not the DemonRATS or their media shills."

GRRRR!

48 posted on 02/02/2006 11:41:43 AM PST by prairiebreeze (God bless our fine military and their families.)
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To: itsahoot

Quote: "The leaker is probably a Senator or Congressman and mothing will happen to them.

We have many traitors serving as elected officials. We had them serving during WW II, and we did little to them, so don't expect much to happen today."

This time it is different. The dems declared war with their little PlamGate stunt. They set up the administration by sending over Wilson on a mission that nobody asked him to go on. The administration fought back by pointing out Wilson had ill motive and was not sent by the Administration. The dems went after the administration with a prosecutor over the leak of PUBLIC information and as a result Libby is indicted for doing, what exactly? As we speak, Fitz's case is hitting a brick wall and the defense is making him back up his granstanding statements with, gulp, evidence. He is failing and refusing to turn it over (perhaps because he DOESN'T HAVE IT). To sum up, the Admin is being raked over the coals for harming national security. Yah ummmkay.

Along comes this matter which ACTUALLY damages national security by disclosing information that is, gulp, actually secret and the dems and MSM want to treat it as if it is A-OK. Why, its the President who is breaking the law. The double standard is not gooing to be applied, not here. The Administration has the power and is going to use it to go after whoever leaked this regardless of who it is and what seat they hold. This hearing today only confirms that. The CIA and FBI singing the same tune. Someone is going down, bank on it.



49 posted on 02/02/2006 11:46:22 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: Dems_R_Losers
"You better believe there is a reason Goss mentioned a grand jury right in front of Rockefeller. He didn't have to. It wasn't really relevant to the line of questioning. This was one big-time shot across the bow of the sinking ship Rockefeller."

I hope that it was more than a shot across the bow. My hope of hopes is that there is one and the chips will fall where they may. If that happens and Rockefeller or one of his flunkies gets tagged, look for the label "In what some view as retaliation against a leading critic of Mr. Bush's domestic spying program...." to lead his name ad nauseum. Up to conviction, I hope. *fingers tightly crossed*...

50 posted on 02/02/2006 11:46:59 AM PST by eureka! (Hey Lefties and 'Rats: Over 3 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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