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Power Play? Board boots Baptist pastor in flap over speaking in tongues
Journal Now.com ^ | Saturday, February 4, 2006 | By Greg Horton

Posted on 02/04/2006 2:44:05 AM PST by WKB

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To: WKB; apackof2; Victoria Delsoul; Alamo-Girl

BOOKMARKED. Thanks for the ping.


201 posted on 02/04/2006 1:19:15 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: tutstar

LOL. Nothing like Baptists debating. I was born with a Southern Baptist spoon in my mouth and am still a member of a Southern Baptist Church but unoffically I'm a member of a Baptist Independent. You, think SB's are conservative..... Anyway, isn't this supposed to be "private" prayer? Church services aren't private. All I really care about is salvation but I wouldn't want to be around someone speaking in tongues and depending on their translation. I have my own instruction book. I may just have a personal interest here though because some lady running up and down aisles yelling in "tongues" at my in laws church really scared me when I was 16.


202 posted on 02/04/2006 1:24:02 PM PST by CindyDawg (I)
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To: Osage Orange
.For weren't they bickering, and trying to "one-up" each other, in order to crow about who had "God's approval", and who didn't??



Don't you think the many of the Charismatics are trying to do the same thing today? So we Baptist who don't agree with
"public speaking in tongues without an interpretation"
are just supposed roll over and play dead.
I don't think so.
203 posted on 02/04/2006 1:54:35 PM PST by WKB (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance\ Baffle them with BS.)
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To: WKB
Don't you think the many of the Charismatics are trying to do the same thing today? So we Baptist who don't agree with "public speaking in tongues without an interpretation" are just supposed roll over and play dead. I don't think so.

I think very little has changed since the early church. In fact in many ways, IMO..the Church is in worse shape.

Sometimes I just laugh..and cry at the same time....thinking about what God must be thinking about us. Instead of building each other up...we try and tear each other down. Instead of coming together in the things that should forever bind us...we focus on what divides us.

I don't have it all together....but I'm tired of seeing fellow professing Christians beating each other up.

Yes, I realize after reading some exchanges here...that this is a FR ongoing debate/feud. Maybe I'm reading more into this threads than what is here...but it seems many things are said...that people surely wouldn't say to each other in person. Especially brother's and sister's in the Lord.....

I'm guilty of this also, so I speak from humbled and embarrassed experience....IMO, the Internet is so impersonal..people will say things on-line...that there's no way, no how,..they would say in person...Christian or not.

Well I'm rambling...and life is short.

Be well...and may God bless you richly in all you do.

FRegards,

204 posted on 02/04/2006 3:45:20 PM PST by Osage Orange (Above all else....let us love one another.)
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To: xzins

"Nothing there about any "spiritual language."

Also...nothing there about INTENTIONALLY picking up snakes or INTENTIONALLY drinking poison.

Finally, nothing there about those having hands laid on them ALWAYS getting well.

These are signs that will follow believers. The nature of a "sign" is that it a marvelous event designed to bring glory to GOD....and GOD will make them happen according to HIS determination."


I am reposting your entire reply because you are SO right!
Thank you bump!


205 posted on 02/04/2006 5:10:53 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: WKB

"Popcorn anyone?"


I hope you have plenty of it,
because it appears you will
need a LOT! ;o)


206 posted on 02/04/2006 5:12:28 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: WKB

"My personal belief:
What you do in private is between you and God.
Tongues in public WITHOUT and interpretation
is NOT Biblical or of any value to anyone."


That is my belief, as well.


207 posted on 02/04/2006 5:15:51 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: tutstar

Thanks, tutstar!

Be sure and get a good seat tomorrow. ;o)


208 posted on 02/04/2006 5:42:22 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: moog; WKB
I agree. The purpose of tongues on the day of Pentecost was to spread Christ's message, not to give men a gift. If you babble and no one understands, it does not glorify God. Missionaries know this and spend many hours learning language and customs in order to share His Word. God always has a plan and provides the tools necessary to carry it out.
209 posted on 02/04/2006 6:19:30 PM PST by Krodg
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To: Osage Orange

You worry too much


210 posted on 02/04/2006 7:03:44 PM PST by WKB (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance\ Baffle them with BS.)
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To: dixiechick2000

Thanks, Dixie.

He Is Lord!


211 posted on 02/04/2006 7:14:44 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Blurblogger

Thanks for the ping!


212 posted on 02/04/2006 10:21:34 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Krodg
agree. The purpose of tongues on the day of Pentecost was to spread Christ's message, not to give men a gift. If you babble and no one understands, it does not glorify God. Missionaries know this and spend many hours learning language and customs in order to share His Word. God always has a plan and provides the tools necessary to carry it out.

Good points. That's what I've been saying all along. I believe a major manifestation of the gift of tongues is indeed when missionaries learn a language under the inspiration of God in order to become stronger in sharing his Word.

213 posted on 02/05/2006 1:32:57 AM PST by moog
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To: tutstar
I watched an excellent message by Dr. David Allen this morning! He pointed out and explained very well how the lack of expository preaching is hurting pastors and congregation

Amen.

The Pastors have replaced the Book with pyscho-babble.

214 posted on 02/05/2006 6:37:19 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Gal. 4:16)
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To: WKB
You worry too much

Perhaps you are correct.....

Perhaps more self-reflection, and meditation on the things that are important to God are in order.

Thank-you,

215 posted on 02/05/2006 8:56:15 AM PST by Osage Orange (AUY)
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To: moog

On the day of Pentecost the believers were in their home country. They did not learn a new language in one day as you prescribe. Please also point out where ever one that day were "missionaries" I can not find that in my bible.


216 posted on 02/05/2006 9:06:59 AM PST by sausageseller (Look out for the jackbooted spelling police. There! Everywhere!(revised cause the "man" accosted me!)
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To: sausageseller; WKB
"On the day of Pentecost the believers were in their home country. They did not learn a new language in one day as you prescribe. Please also point out where ever one that day were "missionaries" I can not find that in my bible." Man, I'm used to having to explain my dumb jokes, and now it's my "serious" statements. hehe:)

PLEASE read the post carefully. I never said anything about them learning a new language at Pentecost, nor did I say anything about them being missionaries (though the apostles were somewhat missionaries after the Jesus ascended). I said that I believe another way that the gift of tongues is manifest is sometimes when missionaries learn another language. At Pentecost, the gift of tongues was used as a tool to manifest the power of God.

217 posted on 02/05/2006 10:00:12 AM PST by moog
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To: moog
I did in fact read "very carefully". That is why I replied to YOUR WORDS!

PLEASE read the post carefully. I never said anything about them learning a new language at Pentecost, nor did I say anything about them being missionaries (though the apostles were somewhat missionaries after the Jesus ascended). I said that I believe another way that the gift of tongues is manifest is sometimes when missionaries learn another language. At Pentecost, the gift of tongues was used as a tool to manifest the power of God.

You did not say "another way". What you did post:

I believe a major manifestation of the gift of tongues is indeed when missionaries learn a language under the inspiration of God in order to become stronger in sharing his Word.

218 posted on 02/05/2006 10:12:43 AM PST by sausageseller (Look out for the jackbooted spelling police. There! Everywhere!(revised cause the "man" accosted me!)
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To: sausageseller; WKB
You did not say "another way". What you did post: -------I believe a major manifestation of the gift of tongues is indeed when missionaries learn a language under the inspiration of God in order to become stronger in sharing his Word.----------- OH BROTHER!!! Maybe I didn't say, "another way" but that is implied and in no way, did I relate it to the Day of Pentecost. I actually was relating it to modern times actually. ARRRRGH! Again, please read what I said and don't assume too much. And really, does it matter in my or your salvation over some tedious issue like that?
219 posted on 02/05/2006 10:21:51 AM PST by moog
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To: moog

Mark 6:11 And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave, as a testimony against them.”


220 posted on 02/05/2006 11:31:19 AM PST by WKB ((Jesus Saving the Baptist\ The Baptist saving the South, The South saving the Nation))
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