BRITISH JOURNALIST EYE-WITNESSED OSAMA BIN LADEN ENTERING ALIJA IZETBEGOVIC’S OFFICE IN SARAJEVO

www.slobodan-milosevic.org ^ | February 3, 2006 | Andy Wilcoxson

[auboy]

Bump.

[USNBandit]

Also, A-10 is using his gun as main armament, and way abowe 2,000 ft that is impossibile. Planes using cluster bombs also flew in low altitude, and cluster bombs are used on altitudes CBU-59 have 400 ft. minimum altitude and above 2,000 ft you miss Iowa

Inaccurate, misinformed, and wrong.

How much experience do you have delivering A/G ordnance? My guess would be zero.

[Stonewall Jackson]

There have been numerous incidents in both Bosnia and Kosovo where "friendly" Muslim forces, the same folks our troops were sent in to defend, have attacked their NATO protectors.

There was an incident in 1995, right after the Dayton Peace Accord was signed, where a group of US Army Rangers were conducting a sweep for any Serbian forces who might have come across the border and they walked into a village that had been completely taken over by Chechen fighters who'd just finished clobbering the Russian Army back home and were out looking for another fight. If I recall correctly, one Ranger was killed and several others were severely injured before they could break contact. At first, no one wanted to admit what had happened, but it eventually broke, created a stir for a few days, then quickly faded into the background.

[joan]

Even General Michael C. Short, admits that they lowered it down to 5,000 ft. But I suspect, they did fly even lower, but that is all he will admit to:

It came back from the squadron that we needed to let the forward air controllers go down to 5,000 feet, and to let the strikers go down as low as 8,000 feet in a diving delivery, to ensure that they verify their target and then right back up again to 15,000 feet. We acknowledged that that increases the risks significantly, but none of us want to hit a tractor full of refugees again. We can't stand that.

So from that point on, the rules were: "Try to operate at 15,000 feet, but if you're a forward air controller, like my son is, in the daytime with your binoculars and you see something on the ground and you can't identify it from 15,000 feet, then you're clear down as low as 5,000 feet to make that identification." . . .

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/kosovo/interviews/short.html

[USNBandit]

Do you know what a FAC is?

[USNBandit]

But I suspect, they did fly even lower, but that is all he will admit to:

You know all us guys in the miltary are liars.

[yarddog]

Another journalist has pointed out the one sided and sometimes false reporting about the Serbs.

I have heard Michael Medved say similar things.

In other words the Serbs were not completely innocent but they were probably the lessor of two evils, and we sided with the Moslem terrorists.

[joan]

No, what is it?

Also, I do remember seeing footage of the Chinese embassy bombing, and the bomber planes didn't fly there all that much higher than the building itself. The bombs were sent in, one after the other, at strong angles (not directly downward), and seemingly into the windows, as the plane flew practically alongside, but a little higher. That plane wasn't any higher than a few hundred feet. Nothing in Belgrade is near World Trade Center towers'height (1368 and 1362 ft.).

[sanjacjake]

Not all guys..but this story is a farce...unless
you are a cave dwellar..you won't see..OBL....He
will live there and die there...and that brings up
a question...if we know he is in a certain area...
why have we not the intellience to pinpoint it for
a nice visiting..50 ton missile..forget the capture...
look at the Hussein trial...take him out...Jake

[LS]

I have no love for the Serbs---I know Croats and Slovenians who were brutalized by his thugs. But I agree that we should have stayed out and let it run its bloody course.

[USNBandit]

Forward Air Controllers are required to ID targets if the targets aren't preplanned. The the statement by the general officer, that you accused of lying, he stated the forward air controllers were the only people cleared to 5,000 feet and then for identifications only. Other aircraft were cleared to 8,000 for dive recoveries indicating a release altitude 2-5 thousand feet higher depending on dive angle and airspeed.

Regarding the Chinese embassy, that strike was not conducted at low altitude either. I would love to see the footage you are claiming showed aircraft at roof level, especially at night.

[kronos77]

My expirienca is that some 60% of all NATO hits were large stationary objects, and that laser-guided bomb couldnt hit anything smaller than steel bridge. For attack on smal mobile targets, A-10 was produced on a first place. Most of small targets in 1999 hade to be attacked from low altitude, and even than, hits were not best.

Your expirience might have ben on exercise, good weather drops, but in real cmbat, on bad terrain, with hills and forests, and large number of small cal AAs and portable SAMs, targets can me hitted only by low-flying sudden strikes, and that includes under 1,000 ft flights.

[FormerLib]

First thing that I wondered was whether she'd seen a UAV. The Serbs did shoot down a lot of those during Clinton's war on them and they thought they were shooting down combat aircraft. If trained military folks can make that sort of mistake, it only makes it more likely that a civilian might.

No big surprise about bin Laden working with the Bosnian Muslims, though.

[cricket]

Osamma was 'out and about' before 9/11. . .

[Lion in Winter]

I know clinton is and I know that slug Gen Clark is too.

[USNBandit]

Your english is slipping.

Your expirience might have ben on exercise, good weather drops, but in real cmbat, on bad terrain, with hills and forests, and large number of small cal AAs and portable SAMs, targets can me hitted only by low-flying sudden strikes, and that includes under 1,000 ft flights.

Your statement is supported the continual successes of the Serbs against NATO air forces.

[kronos77]

Well, my English is slipping probably due to the fact that Im Serb.
And about success of war of 1999, NATO should not brag about.
Also, about success of NATo war, you may discuss with people from Manhattan. They will tell you taht America certanly lost that war, ant that entire world is about to lose the war if people like than president Clinton are to came to power.

[Hoplite]

There was an incident in 1995, right after the Dayton Peace Accord was signed, where a group of US Army Rangers were conducting a sweep for any Serbian forces who might have come across the border and they walked into a village that had been completely taken over by Chechen fighters who'd just finished clobbering the Russian Army back home and were out looking for another fight. If I recall correctly, one Ranger was killed and several others were severely injured before they could break contact. At first, no one wanted to admit what had happened, but it eventually broke, created a stir for a few days, then quickly faded into the background.

You might want to check your source on this one, Stonewall. The only source I'm familiar with on the "Rangers in Bosnia" line of stories is Serbian, and purported service in the Balkans is one of the litmus tests used to sniff out posers by veterans of the Regiment.

Special Operations Forces In Bosnia (1/27/96)

Army special operations units in the area include the 1st Special Forces Group, Fort Lewis, Wash.; the 5th Group from Fort Campbell, Ky.; the 10th Group, Fort Carson, Colo.; and the Army National Guard 20th Special Forces Group, Birmingham, Ala. Portions of Fort Bragg’s (N.C.) 4th Psychological Operations Battalion, 96th Civil Affairs Battalion, and 112th and 528th Special Operations Signal battalions are also in Bosnia.

While the Rangers are high speed and do secret squirrel stuff, they're not higher speed nor doing more covert secret squirrel stuff than the aforementioned Special Forces Groups.

[Drango]

I saw Elvis once. At a gas station.

[Lion in Winter]

Did you not know that that NATO bombed a civilian walking-type of wooden bridge filled with people who had just left Church in a small Serbian town in May of 1999?

When the priest went out to help, the planes came back, bombed the place again and killed him( he was de-capitated) and other rescuers. I read about this on FR. The MSM made no big deal of it. So what another Christian is murdered.. that IS the MSM attitude.

Eyewitnesses said the planes were quite low in that bombing run as well.

clinton and clark are war criminals... as much if not more than slobo and slobo is a commie. So, what does that make clinton/clark... lower than whale poop, that's what!