[Coleus]

Arizona bishops release dramatic letter on immigration

[bboop]

I just love it when someone announces X is not the answer, but doesn't provide a solution. It is SO simplistic. The border fence is fine.

[willyd]

We would still welcome them to come here legally. We just want them to check in with someone and ungergo some sort of criminal background check.

[MinuteGal]

Yep, the Bible does say welcome the stranger.

Where in the Bible does it say welcome 10 million strangers?

Leni

[Raycpa]

Whenever I try to explain this to Freepers as the reason for much of Bush's policy I get flammed. Oh well. The truth it the truth. We are called to treat the alien amoung us as our own. God's word.

[no-to-illegals]

has to be this cardinal is corrupt, and benefiting from the money being looted by the criminal aliens

[Hebrews 11:6]

Scripture also upholds the authority of the government, which in this case has established laws regulating immigration. The good Archbishop compares the USA with its immigration laws to societies which had none.

We are to extend charity appropriately. That doesn't mean ignoring laws. The Archbishop can work to change them, not flout them.

[axes_of_weezles]

So we can send bills for the Illegals to the Arizona catholic church, right?
If these bishops weren't such drunken sodomizers, they might actually interpret the Law of the Land as well as the Bible properly.
The Tucson Diocese is bankrupt because of their child molesting priests. I do not follow child molesters and sodomizers. The Phoenix Bishop was replaced after he ran over a pedestrian with a 1.8 blood alcohol.

[Raycpa]

Deuteronomy 24:13-15

14 “You shall not oppress a hired servant who is poor and needy, whether one of your brethren or one of the aliens who is in your land within your gates. 15 Each day you shall give him his wages, and not let the sun go down on it, for he is poor and has set his heart on it; lest he cry out against you to the LORD, and it be sin to yo

[Raycpa]

Malachi 3:4

4 “ Then the offering of Judah and Jerusalem
Will be pleasant to the LORD,
As in the days of old,
As in former years.
5 And I will come near you for judgment;
I will be a swift witness
Against sorcerers,
Against adulterers,
Against perjurers,
Against those who exploit wage earners and widows and orphans,
And against those who turn away an alien—
Because they do not fear Me,”
Says the LORD of hosts.
6 “ For I am the LORD, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

He is an aider and abettor of CRIMINALS and INVADERS!


Start building the fence.

It should be made a felony for Criminals who overstay their visas and Invaders.

I believe we should give amnesty to these poor CRIMINALS or INVADERS.
This should be a 2 week amnesty to get the heck out of our Country.
The ones who ignore this amnesty should be buried in a tent city jail and fined $10,000 or buried elsewhere.
All aiders and abettors of these CRIMINALS or INVADERS should get 1 year in a tent city jail and a $10,000 fine for each CRIMINAL aided.

[Draco]

What about obeying just laws first? This is why I dissociate myself from the formal religion of my birth. I wish it had felt so strongly about preventing further pedophilia. Clean up your act, Bishops.

[Iscool]

and welcomes as many newcomers as possible who share our yearning for freedom and our desire to have the opportunity to work hard.”

These folks can have freedom and work hard in their own country...

I don't see a 'Welcome' sign posted at the Vatican...That building there could house thousands of Mexicans...What's up with that, Pope???

[theBuckwheat]

In Genesis 25, starting in verse 29, we read of the account where Esau sold his priceless birthright for a meal. The account ends in verse 34, "...So Esau despised his birthright."

The lesson of Esau is to not treat carelessly what God has given. Esau did not exercise *due care*. He was negligent. Once gone, because of his negligence, God allowed his example to stand as a warning for all humanity instead of restoring what he traded for so little.

When it came time for Issac to convey the blessing of the birthright to Jacob, Esau wept because of what he had done (Gen 27:38)

Many well-meaning people, like this cleric, are ignorant of the lesson of how Esau despised his blessing. They want the US gov't to allow anyone to come into our country. If we do so, we are not exercising *due care* about who is here and who is not. It is not that we don't want everyone to be as prosperous as we are. Indeed, if Mexico was prosperous, a lot of Mexicans who are in the US would want to go home.

Once people are here, it is easy for them to hide out and work for cash. It is just a lot better for everyone if we control our borders and carefully control how many we let in. That is prudent.

The countries of France and Denmark right now are alight because they allowed far more people in than could be assimilated. Let the clerics work to improve Mexico rather than to import Mexicans to the US. If we don't stop the flood, some day we may regret with tears that we sold our birthright for cheap day-laborers.

[B Knotts]

What the Church actually teaches on this subject:

2241 The more prosperous nations are obliged, to the extent they are able, to welcome the foreigner in search of the security and the means of livelihood which he cannot find in his country of origin. Public authorities should see to it that the natural right is respected that places a guest under the protection of those who receive him.

Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants' duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens.

[ladyjane]

What is it about obeying the law that some of these bishops and cardinals don't understand?

[VOYAGER]

Archbishop Naumann said that the Biblical Abraham himself as well as his descendents “knew what it was like to be strangers in a strange land.”

Is this wine bibbing priest saying that God is telling the mexicans, like he told Abraham, leave your country and go to a land He would show him but in the case of the mexicans has told them to go to the U.S. and see for yourselves?

Sounds like his "kool aid" could be causing him to hallucinate.

Watch out for that pedestrian in the crosswalk "padre"!

[gubamyster]

ping

[Thumper1960]

With all due respect to the Archbishop.....baby-rapers are doomed to H*ll, too. Best he concentrate on cleaning up his own backyard before lecturing others on what his interpretations of the Good Book are.

[El Cid]

Archbishop Naumann: Scripture exhorts faithful to welcome the migrant, alien

Fair enough. But first, and foremost, Scripture tells us to honor the laws and not to lie. We have laws that regulate legal immigration, and our elected leaders are supposed to honor God by trying to enforce these laws, not ignore them. They lie when they ignore our laws.
The good Archbishop should not be encouraging law breaking - he is disobeying God, and encouraging others to sin. If he desires 'open boundaries' - make the case, and lobby to change our laws .... But why the USA should give up its sovereignty and cease to be a nation is beyond me ...

[rcocean]

One of the reasons, I thought about, but never did, convert to Catholicism.

Support for illegal immigration. Can't find that in my bible.

People come her to get richer, no one is REALLY poor in the real (biblical terms) in Mexico.

Everyone in Mexico lives better than almost every American did in 1900.