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Is nothing sacred?
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 2/5/6 | EDITOR

Posted on 02/05/2006 8:17:53 AM PST by SmithL

THE CARICATURES of Muhammad that have ignited an international furor are offensive and recklessly off base in portraying the prophet as a terrorist. The cartoons lacked artistic merit or satirical sophistication. We have to wonder: What were the Danish cartoonists and the newspapers that originally decided to publish them thinking?

Still, the global reaction is far more disturbing than the editors' great lapse in taste and cultural sensitivity. The protests by Muslims demanding violent revenge against the cartoonists -- or, in some cases, against Denmark generally -- are an affront in their own right to a religion of peace. They also guaranteed that many millions of people would quickly go to the Internet to see what the fuss was all about.

Strong editorial cartoons can be outrageous, unfair and, yes, irreverent to the most sacred institutions of society -- even to the edge of blasphemy at times.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 02/05/2006 8:17:55 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

"recklessly off base in portraying the prophet as a terrorist"

LOL!


2 posted on 02/05/2006 8:19:05 AM PST by CondorFlight
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To: SmithL
THE CARICATURES of Muhammad ..........are offensive and recklessly off base in portraying the prophet as a terrorist

Those San Fran-sicko's are really Huffin & Puffin their stashes too hard, too high & too early this year.

3 posted on 02/05/2006 8:20:40 AM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: SmithL
Censorship, even when unleashed under the well-intentioned guise of sensitivity, has a way of turning into tyranny.

No law, of state or religion, should be allowed to become the ultimate arbiter of freedom of expression.

Did the sun come up in San Francisco today?

4 posted on 02/05/2006 8:20:43 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: SmithL

"Is nothing sacred?"



Certainly not in this country. Seems pretty comical, though, that the US media thinks Muhammad is sacred, while it rants about the Christian fundamentalists.


5 posted on 02/05/2006 8:20:43 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: SmithL
The cartoons lacked artistic merit or satirical sophistication.

Ha ha! Yeah, the Chronicle is a bastion of both. Sheesh these people take themselves seriously!

6 posted on 02/05/2006 8:21:05 AM PST by JennysCool (Seahawk fan since the beginning)
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To: SmithL

Everyday, in every way, the MSM gets more and more unreal.


7 posted on 02/05/2006 8:21:36 AM PST by doxteve
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To: SmithL

Is nothing sacred?

Where is the outrage when Muslims burn the bible. bomb churches, and occupy the birthplace of Christ, wiping their butts on pages from the bible. Screw the Muslims.


8 posted on 02/05/2006 8:21:55 AM PST by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: CondorFlight
This opinion is not informed by the history of Moammed or Islam. It must have been written by a typical, lazy liberal, but it is, after all, SF.
9 posted on 02/05/2006 8:21:57 AM PST by TheGeezer
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To: CondorFlight

Muhammad WAS a terrorist. That is a historical fact.


10 posted on 02/05/2006 8:22:26 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: CondorFlight

Shouldn't Mohammed have been portrayed as a pedophile?


11 posted on 02/05/2006 8:22:42 AM PST by steelcurtain
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To: SmithL
The cartoons lacked artistic merit or satirical sophistication.

Hey,Editor...the one depicting "mohammed" wearing a turban with a bomb with a lighted fuse was:

RIGHT ON TARGET!

pun *absolutely* intended!

12 posted on 02/05/2006 8:23:10 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: SmithL

13 posted on 02/05/2006 8:23:17 AM PST by petercooper (Win the war. Confirm the judges. Cut the taxes. Control the spending. Seal the borders.)
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To: SmithL

[Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, March 27, 2004]

Sharon eats Palestinian children. [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, March 22, 2004]

Jew is Satan. Pope says: “Peace on Earth” Satan-Jew: “Colonies on Earth” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida March 22, 2000]

On old man: "the 20th century" On young man: "the 21st century" Above dwarf Jew with Star of David: “The Disease of the Century” [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida Dec. 28, 1999]

The U.S. using Israel to hold up the Arab World

Star of David and Kippa (skullcap) on the Rat. Text on the cheese: “Arab Homeland” Text on the knife: “USA” [Al - Hayat Al-Jadida Aug. 20, 2001]

Donkey with Talit [Jewish prayer shawl] marched through streets of Ramallah. [Note - PA religious leaders and PA school books [published in 2000] compare Jews to donkeys.

Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (PA), June 12, 2003

Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (PA), June 24, 2003

Al-Quds (PA), July 22, 2003

Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (PA), June 17, 2003

Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (PA), June 23, 2003


Al-Hayat Al-Jadida (PA), June 12, 2003. , the day after the No. 14 bus suicide bombing in Jerusalem, showing torn body parts of a man who blew up

The weekly Akhbar Al-Yawm published a cartoon on March 12, 2005, in which President Bush is portrayed as an angel, but with cloven hooves and a pointy tail:.

In light of Egyptian-U.S. tensions, Egyptian government newspapers published a number of anti-American cartoons in recent days. The daily Al-Akhbar published a cartoon on March 14, 2005, in which Bush looks in a mirror and sees the image of Adolph Hitler


14 posted on 02/05/2006 8:23:50 AM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: CondorFlight

More submissive cultural crap from the San Francisco Koranicle.


15 posted on 02/05/2006 8:24:18 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: steelcurtain
Shouldn't Mohammed have been portrayed as a pedophile?

I always thought his favorite pastime was pig fornication.

16 posted on 02/05/2006 8:24:21 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: steelcurtain

How about a "pigophile"!!


17 posted on 02/05/2006 8:24:43 AM PST by Camel Joe (WANTED: Hot Tar and Feathers... I've Got a Rail)
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To: SmithL
"They also guaranteed that many millions of people would quickly go to the Internet to see what the fuss was all about."

What a glaring indictment of the MSM by the MSM!!! Albeit inadvertently. Millions of people going to the internet to get information!!! I love it.

18 posted on 02/05/2006 8:24:55 AM PST by sinclair (It's probably a good thing I'm not in charge of stuff.)
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To: SmithL
San Francisco Chronicle
EDITORIAL
Is nothing sacred?

You have proven that quite clearly in the attacks on the military and Christian religion.

19 posted on 02/05/2006 8:24:57 AM PST by SouthTexas (2006 will be a very good year.)
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To: SmithL
The cartoons lacked artistic merit or satirical sophistication. We have to wonder: What were the Danish cartoonists and the newspapers that originally decided to publish them thinking?

This could be the most hypocritical editorial in the entire history of newsprint: remember, this is the newspaper that pays and prints Mark Morford.

 

20 posted on 02/05/2006 8:25:16 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Libertarians are Anarchists who bathe.)
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To: SmithL

To liberals, especially to the San Francisco variety, sacred applies to anything not Christian or Jewish.

Mad Mo was a terrorist. He used force to institutionalize Islam. Mad Mo was also a pedophile who married a 6 year old. He had been jailed in his lifetime for being a criminal.


21 posted on 02/05/2006 8:26:57 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: SmithL
THE CARICATURES of Muhammad that have ignited an international furor are offensive and recklessly off base in portraying the prophet as a terrorist

What an idiot. The cartoons are portraying ISLAM as a terrorist organization. That's the real reason the mullahs are so sp upset that they're inciting the ignorant to riot, because they've been accurately hit on their foreheads with the truth.

22 posted on 02/05/2006 8:27:10 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Gay State Conservative; All
Islam, Mohammed and pedophilia, more info here.
23 posted on 02/05/2006 8:27:40 AM PST by steelcurtain
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To: CondorFlight

I expect this to come out of San Francisco. Who else would show reverence for a sick, twisted, violent pervert like mohammed, and at the same time, promote "art" exhibitions of Jesus Christ being mocked and insulted with Him in jars of urine or of his Mother painted with elephant manure? San Francisco and it's citizens are so lost I believe they think it's ok to think islamofascists are on the same level as Christian fundamentalists. Well, let's see how far they're understanding of diversity will go in a wacky society like that of the muslims.


24 posted on 02/05/2006 8:28:01 AM PST by john drake (roman military maxim: "oderint dum metuant, i.e., let them hate, as long as they fear")
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To: Andy from Beaverton

I really despise these people.


25 posted on 02/05/2006 8:30:10 AM PST by claudiustg (Delenda est Iran!)
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To: JennysCool
The cartoons lacked artistic merit or satirical sophistication.

Ah yes, The Chronicle as the arbiter of artistic merit and sophistication. I doubt they said anything negative about the "artistic merit" or "satirical sophistication" of Piss Christ or Virgin Mary with Elephant Dung.

26 posted on 02/05/2006 8:30:10 AM PST by muleskinner
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To: SmithL

27 posted on 02/05/2006 8:30:43 AM PST by blueminnesota
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To: SmithL

"..., the global reaction is far more disturbing than the editors'..."

I am reluctant to say it, but I find the ragheads reaction somewhat gratifying, because the reaction insists that civilized people everywhere are increasingly becoming aware of the mentality of the enemies of civilization.....let them rock-on.....the acute attention they seek is just around the corner, everywhere but the WH and State Dept, incredibly!


28 posted on 02/05/2006 8:32:21 AM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Psycho_Bunny
No law, of state or religion, should be allowed to become the ultimate arbiter of freedom of expression.

The msm reserves that right for itself, ALONE and without criticism.

29 posted on 02/05/2006 8:33:08 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: SmithL

THE CARICATURES of Muhammad that have ignited an international furor are offensive and recklessly off base in portraying the prophet as a terrorist.



A) The "prophet" was a terrorist. And a child molester.

B) Between this story and the WaPo story you can see that these lefties aren't just anti-Bush or anti-American, they ARE pro-terrorist.


30 posted on 02/05/2006 8:34:51 AM PST by trubluolyguy (I don't break for morons.)
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To: SmithL

We have pried open the soft underbelly of the beast!

Don't stop now!

DRAW MORE CARTOONS!!!

Then the world will begin to see this trash for the Nazis that they are.

DRAW MORE CARTOONS!!!

ALL ARTISTS TO THEIR PALLETTES!

MORE CARTOONS HERE: http://retecool.com/comments.php?id=13539_0_1_0_C


Danish bloggers are having a field day...


31 posted on 02/05/2006 8:36:18 AM PST by MedicalMess
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To: SmithL

Who gives a crap what all the insane, backward, barbaric, stupid fruitcake, fascist Muslims think.

They're from another planet. They're the Klingons of Earth.


32 posted on 02/05/2006 8:37:17 AM PST by garyhope (Happy, healthy, prosperous New Year to all good Freepers and our brave military.)
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To: SmithL
They also guaranteed that many millions of people would quickly go to the Internet to see what the fuss was all about.

Heaven forfend!

"We (the MSM) have worked very hard to suppress the fact that Muslims are batsh*t crazy. Please DO NOT go to the internet and find out for yourself!"

BTW, there's some great fun going on over here. (Warning: image heavy with some slightly offensive content.)

33 posted on 02/05/2006 8:37:26 AM PST by Drew68
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To: SmithL

True evil hates nothing so much as being mocked. It is an insult that evil cannot resist.


34 posted on 02/05/2006 8:37:51 AM PST by Camel Joe (WANTED: Hot Tar and Feathers... I've Got a Rail)
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To: SmithL

Maybe Christians should burn something down when they get insulted. (Though there would hardly be any major newspaper left standing I fear) I know beyond a doubt they would not receive the same calls for cultural senstivity.


35 posted on 02/05/2006 8:38:02 AM PST by Ma3lst0rm (Assumptions are often like jumping out of a plane with a backpack while thinking it is a parachute.)
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To: MedicalMess
MORE CARTOONS HERE:

Ah, ya' beat me to it! (BTW, I have been informed that those are Dutch bloggers, not Danish. Nonetheless...)

36 posted on 02/05/2006 8:38:56 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Andy from Beaverton

Some people need killing. That's all.


37 posted on 02/05/2006 8:39:16 AM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: CondorFlight
well they have a point... TNT didn't exist at the time... they should have just drawn him raping a 9 year old girl, it would have been more truthful :)
38 posted on 02/05/2006 8:39:46 AM PST by conservative physics
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To: john drake
Say that could make an interesting sitcom. Imagine libs trying to get along in a taliban world lol!
39 posted on 02/05/2006 8:40:04 AM PST by Camel Joe (WANTED: Hot Tar and Feathers... I've Got a Rail)
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To: SmithL

I haven't heard a word from the ACLU liberals defending freedom of speech and the press.


40 posted on 02/05/2006 8:41:32 AM PST by Shooter1001
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To: SmithL

no doubt this editor finds nothing reckless insensitive etc etc in say, the emersion of a crucifix in urine..


41 posted on 02/05/2006 8:43:36 AM PST by Cyphas
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To: Izzy Dunne
Did the sun come up in San Francisco today?

The liberal media loves Muslims and hates America yet they don't like *anyone* telling them what they can and cannot print. It has been immensely entertaining watching this clash of values among the press.

42 posted on 02/05/2006 8:46:38 AM PST by Drew68
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To: SmithL
That the San Francisco Chronicle would bewail disrespect for the sacred with a straight face is a mockery of credulity.
43 posted on 02/05/2006 8:48:07 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Yeah, this is the same Comicle that publishes Morford twice a week.
44 posted on 02/05/2006 8:53:24 AM PST by SmithL (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: SmithL

Have the cartoons been posted on FR? Also Have they been shown in US papers or on tv? Where's our freedom of the press?


45 posted on 02/05/2006 8:57:07 AM PST by pangaea6
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To: SmithL
What basis does the San Francisco Chronicle have for giving serious consideration to: "the global reaction is far more disturbing than the editors' great lapse in taste and cultural sensitivity"? None.

When, it is entire existence have the editors of that rag ever demonstrated serious consideration to "culteral sensitivity" to the religious sensibilities of a majority of Americans? Never.

Every new event simply provides another occasion for the LameStreamMedia to demonstrate its natural moral state - hypocrisy.

46 posted on 02/05/2006 8:58:25 AM PST by Wuli
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To: SmithL

These were the same guys who think portraying the crucifix in a glass of urine is just fine and dandy.


47 posted on 02/05/2006 9:01:26 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: CondorFlight

Of course the editors of the SFChronicle can bemoan the cartoon depiction of Mohammed as a terrorist; they do not read about or know the true history of Islam.


48 posted on 02/05/2006 9:01:38 AM PST by Wuli
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To: SmithL

Not an editorial, but:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/1995/03/08/DD43307.DTL&hw=serrano+piss+christ&sn=001&sc=1000

....In ``Piss Christ'' (1987) and related works that use religious icons, Serrano equates the persuasive force of highly finished photographs with that of sacred symbols. In that, if anywhere, lies his insult to piety: to suggest that we can no longer distinguish between spiritual response and consumer frisson.

One look at his 10-year retrospective and you can see that whatever people make of it, Serrano's work is a private research into beauty and symbolism, almost academically methodical and neat....


49 posted on 02/05/2006 9:01:45 AM PST by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered. )
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Love the cartoon here.......

http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/


50 posted on 02/05/2006 9:03:15 AM PST by toldyou
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