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Donald Rumsfeld Warns Against Islamic 'Empire'
Newsmax ^ | February 5, 2006 | Carl Limbacher, et al.

Posted on 02/06/2006 8:50:08 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld is warning that Western countries must increase their defense budgets in order to prevent the rise of a "global extremist Islamic empire" that could be as deadly as Hitler's Third Reich.

Speaking at a global security conference in Munich on Saturday, the U.S. defense chief said that Islamic radicals "seek to take over governments from North Africa to Southeast Asia and to re-establish a caliphate they hope, one day, will include every continent.

"They have designed and distributed a map where national borders are erased and replaced by a global extremist Islamic empire," he added.

Rumsfeld urged Western leaders not to delude themselves about the growing threat, saying: "We could choose to pretend, as some suggest, that the enemy is not at our doorstep . . . But those who would follow such a course must ask: what if they are wrong? What if at this moment, the enemy is counting on being underestimated, counting on being dismissed, and counting on our preoccupation."

The remarks echoed his comments the day before in an address to the National Press Club in Washington, DC, where Rumsfeld warned that radical Islamists "have designed and distributed a map where national borders are erased and replaced by a global extremist Islamic empire."

He cautioned that "that this is not war between the West and the Muslim world" but instead primarily "a struggle between the relatively small fringe groups of extremists -- violent extremists -- who seek to hijack an ancient religion against the overwhelming majority of Muslims."

Still, the U.S. defense chief warned that the rise of Islamofacism could by just as deadly as Nazi Germany and the early decades of the Soviet Union:

"During the 1920s, few people took seriously what some characterized as the mad ravings of a failed painter's book, Mein Kampf," Rumsfeld said. "Similarly, most people earlier ignored the excited utterances of an exiled lawyer -- a so-called rabble rouser -- named Lenin, who had published the pamphlet, 'What is to be Done?'

"But imagine," he posited, "if we could go back today, knowing what we know now about Adolph Hitler and Lenin, to warn the world about those two individuals before they spawned their movements and before literally tens of millions of human beings on this earth were victims -- were killed?"


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: extremists; hitler; ideology; islam; islamicempire; islamism; islamists; jihad; lenin; muslims; nazis; rumsfeld; sharia; soviets; worldcaliphate
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1 posted on 02/06/2006 8:50:10 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; Angelwood; ...

PING!


2 posted on 02/06/2006 8:50:51 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Jack Murtha: America's best-known EX-marine)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
that this is not war between the West and the Muslim world

Um, yes it is, Mr. Rumsfeld.

3 posted on 02/06/2006 8:51:35 AM PST by Ashamed Canadian
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To: Ashamed Canadian

Quite right. Who is it between, Mr. Green Jeans and Bunny Rabbit?

It's us against them - all over again. Only this time we gotta win. Please see my tagline.


4 posted on 02/06/2006 8:53:57 AM PST by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
but instead primarily "a struggle between the relatively small fringe groups of extremists -- violent extremists -- who seek to hijack an ancient religion against the overwhelming majority of Muslims."

Okey dokey, so where's the overwhelming majority who's speaking out and condemming this violence?

5 posted on 02/06/2006 8:54:32 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: Ashamed Canadian

"...that this is not war between the West and the Muslim world..."

islam v The World, more likely, Mr SECDEF. I just wish *someone* would tell the truth...


6 posted on 02/06/2006 8:54:41 AM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (I don't have a clue...)
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To: Ashamed Canadian
"that this is not war between the West and the Muslim world"
"Um, yes it is, Mr. Rumsfeld."

That is very very arguable, but even if it is, you can't publically say as much. Even if 'mainstream' muslims secretly support terrorism and califait, they don't say so publically. So, to claim that they do makes you look like a religious bigot.
7 posted on 02/06/2006 8:55:49 AM PST by z3n
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To: Ashamed Canadian

Agreed.


8 posted on 02/06/2006 8:55:57 AM PST by GSlob
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To: Ashamed Canadian

no, it's not. It's a war between radicalism and modernity for the souls of a billion + mulsims. If all of Iraq hated us, we'd have to nuke the country to pacify it. That is not the case. But a large enough percentage of mulsims are islamo facists that we need to exterminate them before they infect the general populations more than they have.


9 posted on 02/06/2006 8:56:27 AM PST by pissant
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Indeed. Now is not the time to heckon back the ghost of Neville Chamberlin. Rummy says the times are just as dangerous. I say they are exponentially more dangerous for two glaring reasons. First, the weapons available today. Second, THE SCUM SUCKING ANTIPATRIOTIC DEMOCRATS who will sell us down the river to make short term political gains.
10 posted on 02/06/2006 8:56:36 AM PST by 101st-Eagle (Imagination is more important than knowledge-Albert Einstein..)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Donald Rumsfeld for PRESIDENT

Run, Rummy, Run!


11 posted on 02/06/2006 8:57:15 AM PST by van_erwin
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
If Red China were to join the mix...and with the military and economic ties tey are making with places like Iran, that is certainly within the realm of possibility...the threat would be GREATER than the Third Reich IMHO.

I have written an entire series of novels about that real possibility.

THE DRAGON'S FURY SERIES

12 posted on 02/06/2006 8:58:12 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
WWII was not against all the Germans. I mean, a few Germans were involved in the July Plot in 1944 to assassinate Hitler. So, the Germans were not 100% bad.

But, of course, in War, one does not have the luxury of making such fine distinctions. Our goal in WWII was to destroy the German capacity for war. As part of that, we killed a lot of Germans. We fire-bombed whole cities. War is hell.

And now we're fighting "radical" Islam. We need to get serious about how to win that. To quote Hillary: "You know what I'm talking about".

13 posted on 02/06/2006 9:00:12 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (E)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

"global extremist Islamic empire" will be made up of muslim's so will = the muslim world

It is already war between the West and moslems...why can't our leaders acknowledge it?


14 posted on 02/06/2006 9:01:01 AM PST by kalee
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"a struggle between the relatively small fringe groups of extremists -- violent extremists -- who seek to hijack an ancient religion against the overwhelming majority of Muslims."



Dear Secretary Rumsfeld,

Radical Islam is an insane murder cult.
Moderate Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.
15 posted on 02/06/2006 9:01:36 AM PST by Vaquero (time again for the Crusades.)
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To: Ashamed Canadian

You are correct. If the radicals achieve even a small measure of real success, the "moderate Muslims" will become very big cheerleaders regarding their success against the "Infidels". The momentum will be difficult to slow from there. If the "genie" of momentum and an emboldened Muslim world becomes a reality, they will make Hitler and Stalin look like choirboys . . . IMHO. The boys in Iran are doing what they can to create that momentum . . . we cannot afford to let that happen.


16 posted on 02/06/2006 9:04:14 AM PST by RatRipper
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To: van_erwin
Donald Rumsfeld for PRESIDENT

Rumsfeld/Cheney 2008? :-) Of course that's never going to happen but it's nice to dream. Can you imagine all these heads exploding? Well, let's just hope that we don't end up with Howard Dean and Hitlery instead...

17 posted on 02/06/2006 9:04:39 AM PST by Tarkin (Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, Alito...one more to go)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Over tyhe weekend, I watched an old movie called "Battleground" made in 1949 about the battle of the bulge. About 30 minutes before the end of the movie in a small open field day before christmas prayer - the priest discussed why they were there in Europe, freezing in the snow and was it worth it.

Some enterprising soul should get that movie and trascribe his speech. With only changing 2-3 words, the same could be said today.


18 posted on 02/06/2006 9:04:54 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: kalee

Because they believe that the muslimes in our country are just okey-dokey! They seem to think that CAIR and even the very word of the Koran are just misunderstood.


19 posted on 02/06/2006 9:11:35 AM PST by jusduat (I am a strange and recurring anomaly)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks


20 posted on 02/06/2006 9:12:59 AM PST by Tarkin (Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, Alito...one more to go)
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