Posted on 02/06/2006 12:36:41 PM PST by SierraWasp
Your entire attitude on this is that no matter what we do, we should simply accept the fact that Hispanics (and Asians, too) will continue to become more and more Democrat. I'm sorry, I'm not going to buy into this baloney defeatism.
It's a realistic, sensible attitude.
Nope, it's defeatist, 100%. I'm sorry if you don't want to fight for their votes, or think it's a waste of time because it's "inevitable" they'll all be voting 'Rat, but the rest of us here will continue to fight for expanding our votes, not counting the days until we die as a party. Too much of that Wilsonian thinking has poisoned you.
I think your research shows that the Depression played the most influential role in turning the voters to the Democrat Party. FDR was seen as a savior by the impoverished out of work hordes. To this day, that image of him sticks. Unfortunately, the "Reds" won not only the state, but the nation. Few people understand how economics work, down to the cause of the Great Depression and why FDR was not the savior he portrayed himself to be. I don't even argue with old timers from that era, at least what's left of them. For further research, check out Jesse Unruh's legacy in the state government.
I thought that was Lavendar Blue, dilly... dilly... (snort!)
I thought they changed to purple after the "Barney" cartoon was being promoted as gay.
I guess I don't keep up with the gay lifestyle trends.
I do avoid wearing anything close to purple or lavender.
So you're saying that demographics have condemned the GOP to be a minority party for the foreseeable future? In that case, what's the use of advancing our principles and trying to win elections, since you are so certain that we'll lose.
No one here is saying that we need to expand the number of Mexican-American legal immigrants. Even the guest-worker program that has been so vilified in reality issues something like H-1B Visas for non-technology jobs (employers would need to apply for X number of workers), and the people who enter the U.S. under such program wouldn't get in line for eventual citizenship.
The truth is that, even if we shut down the border to all immigration (and trade, I assume), Hispanics would form a larger and larger part of the electorate, and we're going to need to get their votes if we're going to win elections. I'm not suggesting that we don't follow policies that will benefit our nation, I'm suggesting that we become a little smarter about how we frame the argument, remembering that we can always count on the liberal media to pounce on any slip-up on our part as evidence of "anti-Hispanic bias." The Pete Wilson approach failed miserably, as California's votes for Gray Davis, Al Gore and John Kerry proved. The George W. Bush approach saw him increase his share of the Hispanic vote between 2000 and 2004 and deserves our consideration.
If we persist on our present course?
Yes, absolutely.
Blue states do not suddenly turn red-and the more unrestricted, third world immigration we allow, the more firmly this maxim holds true-but there are a lot of red states careening into blue territory, e.g. Colorado, Arizona, Virginia, and whether people want to admit this or not, North Carolina.
This is a direct result of the unfettered, open borders policy pursued by the leaders of the Republican Party, who are ensuring their own defeat in future elections.
Liberals realize that all of those thousands of tax-loving and regulation-happy socialists that are emmigrating to those states-and replicating the same failed experiment in socialism that doomed the places whence they fled-will be easily replaced by new immigrants, who are more than happy to emulate the voting patterns of their predecessors once they become naturalized citizens.
The H-1B Visa program is a perfectly illustration of the misguided, short-sighted thinking of the OBLs that currently run the GOP.
Now if most people in this country were as unskilled in the technology field as I am, then I could see the rationale for importing the high-tech equivalent of indentured servants from South Asia, and outsourcing so much of our economy to Bangalore.
However there is no dearth of computer expertise in this country.
In fact, I find it hard to believe that there is any scarcity in computer programmers, website designers or other tech-related fields.
The problem is that greedy employers would rather rely upon "high-tech braceros," instead of paying highly-skilled, native-born Americans a decent, fair compensation in return for services rendered.
I don't see what is so extraordinary about demanding that people with post-graduate degrees in CIS are paid a credible wage by their employer(s).
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