[frankjr]

I really do think the Dems should just go ahead an pass a 'Terrorist Bill of Rights' so we can end all the B.S. stories and leaks.

Do people understand that there is a war going on???

[MNJohnnie]

Sorry unnamed source is journalistic malpractice. So Wash Poop is this the SAME unnamed source that told you Fritz was going to hand down "26 indictments reaching into the WH"? How many times are you morons at the Wash Poop going to get burned reporting rumor and gossip as fact?

[Steveone]

This is terrible what is the matter with these people!

[MNJohnnie]

" Both judges had insisted that no information obtained this way be used to gain warrants from their court, according to government sources, and both had been assured by administration officials it would never happen"

Which is why both self important morons were cut out of the loop. They had a chance to do their duty and decided to be DNC political whores instead. Come on scum. Run with this. You think the American people spanked you in 2002 and 2004? Come on and show them which side you all REALLY are on. How many of US have to die before YOU self important Democrat activist morons wake up?

[wildcatf4f3]

forest for the trees

[sgtbono2002]

I would say that most Americans would want the President to be able to get information on terrorist activity. They dont object to eavesdropping on terrorist phone calls, but the press and the Democrat hate mongers are determined to keep hammering on this till something gives.

I guess they havent seen that it isnt causing a big stir among voters , just among the regular suspects ---Bush bashers.

[PogySailor]

So a possible scenario is this:

The NSA finds out that Mohammad al-Jihad in Warziristain is calling Muzar el Fatwah in the US. Turns this over to the FBI who goes to the FISA court for a warrant to do a full blown wiretap.

Isn't that how the systems is supposed to work? How the heck are we supposed to find out WHO to get a warrant for with out doing the preliminary work?

The MSM is spinning this so that it would appear to be illegal to even put together a list of suspects.

[Moonman62]

Do people understand that there is a war going on???

You do mean the war being waged by Democrats against President Bush, don't you?

[CHUCKfromCAL]

Colleen Kollar-Kotelly

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Colleen Kollar-Kotelly (born 1943 in New York) is a judge for the United States District Court for the District of Columbia and the presiding judge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC).

Kollar-Kotelly obtained her J.D. from the Catholic University of America's Columbus School of Law in 1968. From 1969 to 1972, Kollar-Kotelly was an attorney for the Department of Justice, after which she became chief legal counsel for St. Elizabeths Hospital.

In 1984, Kollar-Kotelly was appointed as an associate judge of the D.C. Superior Court. She served as deputy presiding judge from 1995 until her appointment to the federal bench by President Bill Clinton was confirmed in March of 1997. In May 2002, Chief Justice William Rehnquist appointed Judge Kollar-Kotelly to serve as the presiding judge of the FISC.

In August 2001, Kollar-Kotelly received national attention when she was chosen to preside over the appeal in United States v. Microsoft, an anti-trust case. The decision was reversed in part and upheld in part.

[csn vinnie]

Wait a minute Your Honor. Do I have this right? We were monitoring the enemy's wireless communications and found out they were talking a lot to somebody in the United States. So, we came to you for a warrant. Now, you say we can't have the warrant because the information that forms the basis for the request for a warrant was obtained without a warrant?

Cousin Vinnie

[Wasanother]

"Both judges had insisted that no information obtained this way be used to gain warrants from their court, according to government sources, and both had been assured by administration officials it would never happen."

Ah Dah! That's why it was called warrant less and besides the judges never said that gathering the info was illegal just that it didn't meet the courts standard for getting a warrant. This is why the Judiciary is not involved in military operations.

[p23185]

I really do think the Dems should just go ahead an pass a 'Terrorist Bill of Rights' so we can end all the B.S. stories and leaks. Do people understand that there is a war going on???

The Libs and most DemonRATs do NOT believe there is a WOT. So yes, just go ahead and pass a Terrorist Bill of Rights - we can save a hell of a lot of hearing time on the Hill. Let Congress get back to work - ha ha

[hipaatwo]

OH FOR CRYIN OUT LOUD ANOTHER LEAK!

[oceanview]

this is exactly why the 9-11 commission, apparently one of the few issues they got right, identified the FISA court as a major problem. this court wants to make the constitution a suicide pact, wants to make it impossible to do any pro-active law enforcement regading terrorism. all courts are essentially "after the crime" institutions - designed to deal with issues that occur AFTER a crime is commited. with terrorism, the people want it stopped before it happens, and the judicial system is not structured to support that.

[oceanview]

at least this article is telling us something we had wondered - the chief judge is actually acknowledging that this court was making it harder to obtain warrants.

"...prompted Kollar-Kotelly to issue a stern order to government lawyers to create a better firewall or face more difficulty obtaining warrants"

[conservative in nyc]

From the article:

Baker declined to comment through an office assistant, who referred questions about his FISA work to a Justice Department spokesman.

If the Justice Department lawyer refuses to comment, how does the WaPo know what he thinks or how he expressed any reservations about the program?

The reported source for this article is "government officials familiar with the program". I'll give you two guesses about which committee held a closed door breifing on intelligence matters today. They meet again tomorrow, according to their website.

[TheDon]

They only engage in this activity, because there are no consequences for doing so. Executing a few guilty US Senators would reduce the number of leaks most significantly.

[demlosers]

The revelations infuriated U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly

What an activist --tch:

The coming crackdown on blogging

US suspends 'war on terror' trials after court ruling

Now Judges Are Leaking

Judge: Cuba Detainees Must Have Lawyers

[Dionysius]

I just saw Upchuck Schumer on O'Reilly saying that he agrees with the NSA intercepts and that Al Quaeda captives be subjected to whatever extremes of interrogation are necessary. Have I been sucked up and transported to some alternative reality or was O'Reilly experimenting with some bizarre kind of mind control?

[MNJohnnie]

HAAAAAAA. You really ARE this stupid!!!

[MNJohnnie]

What a complete loser you are. I has seen a lot of stupidity displayed here but NO one has ever reached your level of compete ignorance. Read the thread twit. See when dozens of people say one thing and YOU are on the other side INTELLEGENT people say to themselves "hmm WHAT am I missing here".