Skip to comments.WA: Pappy Boyington Memorial Blocked at U-Dub
Posted on 02/10/2006 1:57:56 PM PST by llevrok
We don't need to honor any more rich white males
So says one member of the University of Washington Student Senate.
Gregory Pappy Boyington...graduate of the Univeristy of Washington (went to High School in Tacoma), winner of the medal of honor, shot down 28 enemy aircraft, was a prisoner of war for 20 months, and apparently does not - according to the student senate - deserve a memorial on campus. Apparently we are told that he "is not the type of person we want to honor" and some even went so far as to liken his duty in WW2 to murder. One of the biggest antagonists of the proposal was apparently the leader of the student Democratic Party. How sad.
This issue is particularly interesting to me because I personally knew Pappy Boyington, not so much as a friend, but as a regular visitor to the Chino Air Museum and Air Show. I met him on numerous occassions and thoroughly enjoyed his willingness to tell me stories about his experiences - and I must say it was HEAVEN to this young man who'd rather feel his way around a restored Corsair than hang out at the mall with his contemporaries.
Pappy was famous for once saying: "Just name a hero and I'll prove he's a bum." And he knew this from personal experience. Pappy's childhood wasn't easy and he and his mother had to work VERY hard to get him through school - he was no rich boy and neither did he live off government grants...personally I wonder if those students who "shot this memorial down" could remotely say the same? And he was a real human being who did not hide his faults, particularly with alcohol and marital problems. Like all heros, no one is a "super" hero. While Pappy could work hard, he could "play" hard too and landed himself in trouble from time to time. Here is a more detailed story...from the University of Washington oddly enough.
Also, clearly, the student who made the racist statement never met him because I will tell you that you could not mistake the Sioux in him. And while he did write a best-selling book (best selling authors are a dime a dozen), he was never really a rich man...rather he spent most of his last days wandering through Air Shows reliving the glory days, never in any grand luxury that I saw. He seemed a very nice man, who despite his personal problems did some extraordinary things to help defend freedom and defeat tyranny and injustice.
But, have our Washington youth revised history so much as this? To compare Boyington (or for that matter any of our WW2 vets) to murderers? What are these kids being taught today? They don't deserve those 20 months Pappy spent being tortured and beaten in a Japanese prison camp...they don't deserve any of what our grandfathers and grandmothers sacrificed to free Europe and the Pacific. Is it perhaps because those precious people are soon to be gone that we feel free to engage in leftist amnesia? I'm angry about this...how dare these snot nose, hemp-wearing, pot smoking, drum beating, dreadlock wearing, "gee when is the financial aid check going to arrive", brat kids diss Pappy Boyington?
Maybe REAL rich white guys ought to be offended (like Bill Gates and Paul Allen) and stop donating money to the UW and then the Student Senators will find they don't have the time to be in the student senate because they need to get themselves real jobs.
If any WW2 vets read this blog, please accept my apology on behalf of the University of Washington - and particularly thier ignorant student senate. We remember what you all have done. My kids will remember too.
UW-Ithaca on Puget Sound.
surplus population should be recycled for methane to power model corsairs
Were it not for people like Boyington, they would be forced to honor rich white nazis, or get sent off to labor camps.
bump for WW II
Those are the men who should be honored.
Recall, Seattle has a statue of Lenin in one of their more "hip" neighborhoods, Freemont.
Lincoln High Schools most famous graduate! Michael Medved was covering this yesterday too. Just another reason to not send my boys up I-5 to UW. Turns my stomache
With all the remakes of 70s TV shows that Hollywood has been putting out lately, it would be nice to see them do a big screen version of "Baa Baa Black Sheep" (Just as long as they don't have Peter Frampton in it)
what a bunch of idiots!
If I remember correctly, Boyington was "Native American", in whole or in part. He deserves to be highly honored as do all vets of all America's conflicts.
Patty Murray voters ...
Reposted, as I don't know what happened the first time... *shrug
No doubt they would prefer to honor Ward Churchill, Calypso Louie, Mama Sheehan and assorted homosexual "acivists."
University of Washington. Sounds like a bunch of pot smoking bums that should get a life. It's just to damned bad that they can't be drafted. I guess that is a bad idea because real men would not associate with them.
And these idiots are going to school with my tax money and more than likely will never pay back the loan. They should be denied any federal money if in fact they said WW II was the US murdering Nazi and followers of the Japanese sun god. I guess they believe like the President of Iran that there was no death camps in Europe and in the far East.
Freaking communist wastes of flesh. Their no better than the Islamaniacs.
Yet more proof that leftists are only comfortable viewing US troops as either victims or villains, but never heroes.
I take it you don't like them? \sarc
This is what the disgusting little buggers had to say.
The minutes! (Go to the bottom of the fifth page)
List of POW's at Omori. Boyington and my father were there.
I had an uncle who was a marine and whose influence caused me to joint the army in 1959(don't ask me why not the marines, I just don't know).
For Pappy to not be recognized for the hero he was is disgraceful and these people should be slapped upside the head.
All the people who served during WWII are heros, people who put their lives on the line, the odds were very good they wouldn't make it back.
Sweet Jesus! Now I remember why I hate most college kids! I wish we could bring back the whole of the WW2 generation, make them 25, and unleash them on society. They would slap some sense into these Brokeback numbskulls before dinner!
And rich imperial Japanese.
I had a relevant issue in my clas yesterday. I have a Korean ninth grader who wouldn't stand for the Pledge. I don't force the kids to say it, but I demand they stand in respect. I took him aside and asked where in Korea he was from. Seoul. I told him my uncle Joe spent five months defending his country from June to November 1950, and 34 months in a Chinese POW hell after he was captured on the C'hong C'hong. I would not let that sacrifice be disrespected in my presence and I would visit his home with a picture on my uncle to shame his parents.
So many brave and strong men were brutalized by the japs in these camps.
My college history professors specialty was millitary avaition history. He had an interrview with Pappy that he had done that he had lent to me to listen. I wish I had made a copy of that. It was interesting to hear things straight from the the horses mouth.(unedited, hoo boy)
Jill Edwards and Ashley Miller are stupid @!#$%n idiots.
Give me a link! I lived in Spokane when I was a kid. I remember my old mans friends, WW2 Vets; Marines, Army, Coasties, Navy, would be disgusted by this.
"idiots" is TOO Nice of a term for those "Zero-ounce-of-gray-matter" psych-a-doodle-doos.
WOW.....YOU DID GREAT!!!!!
And that's putting it 'mildly'!
I can think of a lot worse names!
I met him a few times at El Toro. While he frequently had too much to drink on those occasions, he was a great guy. Definately a drinking problem, though. Miss him.
These turds don't deserve the protections and liberties provided to them by men like Boyington. Semper fi.
I got you had a "talk" with the snot nose and set him straight.
Reminds me of the time my wife, then an adult college student, was lectured by a Japan-American teen ager in class about the butchering of Native Americans by Europeans. She should apologize.
Calmly, she asked him then to apologize for Pearl Harbor. The punk walked out of class, upset.
No doubt they are aspiring politicians.
My father had many scars from the brutallity. Many POW's were skinned alive or gutted alive. I've had WWII vets share with me the unbelievably gruesome, at times, hard to listen to, treatment of the POW's by the Japanese. Many were decapitated. God bless them all.
Please wind up my adopted part of the state, the Inland Empire, on this -
llevrok in olympia
I have it... and it is good.
I went out with a woman whose father was on Baatan. Said he was glad he never had any sons. I was in Chelsea Naval at the time, It took me years to realize I was insulted, or he didn't realize he had no class.
I don't think you could ever accurately portray the accomplishments of our "Greatest Generation" with a college memorial, nor can you tarnish their story by denying them one. This was a generation whose actions spoke so loudly for them that the echoes will be heard for generations. UW's actions will speak for them as well.
Indeed, God Bless them all.
Then again, it's only a matter of time and more Anti-American Liberal teachers/boardmembers.