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WA: Pappy Boyington Memorial Blocked at U-Dub
Paradosis | 2/10/06

Posted on 02/10/2006 1:57:56 PM PST by llevrok

We don't need to honor any more rich white males

So says one member of the University of Washington Student Senate.

Gregory Pappy Boyington...graduate of the Univeristy of Washington (went to High School in Tacoma), winner of the medal of honor, shot down 28 enemy aircraft, was a prisoner of war for 20 months, and apparently does not - according to the student senate - deserve a memorial on campus. Apparently we are told that he "is not the type of person we want to honor" and some even went so far as to liken his duty in WW2 to murder. One of the biggest antagonists of the proposal was apparently the leader of the student Democratic Party. How sad.

This issue is particularly interesting to me because I personally knew Pappy Boyington, not so much as a friend, but as a regular visitor to the Chino Air Museum and Air Show. I met him on numerous occassions and thoroughly enjoyed his willingness to tell me stories about his experiences - and I must say it was HEAVEN to this young man who'd rather feel his way around a restored Corsair than hang out at the mall with his contemporaries.

Pappy was famous for once saying: "Just name a hero and I'll prove he's a bum." And he knew this from personal experience. Pappy's childhood wasn't easy and he and his mother had to work VERY hard to get him through school - he was no rich boy and neither did he live off government grants...personally I wonder if those students who "shot this memorial down" could remotely say the same? And he was a real human being who did not hide his faults, particularly with alcohol and marital problems. Like all heros, no one is a "super" hero. While Pappy could work hard, he could "play" hard too and landed himself in trouble from time to time. Here is a more detailed story...from the University of Washington oddly enough.

Also, clearly, the student who made the racist statement never met him because I will tell you that you could not mistake the Sioux in him. And while he did write a best-selling book (best selling authors are a dime a dozen), he was never really a rich man...rather he spent most of his last days wandering through Air Shows reliving the glory days, never in any grand luxury that I saw. He seemed a very nice man, who despite his personal problems did some extraordinary things to help defend freedom and defeat tyranny and injustice.

But, have our Washington youth revised history so much as this? To compare Boyington (or for that matter any of our WW2 vets) to murderers? What are these kids being taught today? They don't deserve those 20 months Pappy spent being tortured and beaten in a Japanese prison camp...they don't deserve any of what our grandfathers and grandmothers sacrificed to free Europe and the Pacific. Is it perhaps because those precious people are soon to be gone that we feel free to engage in leftist amnesia? I'm angry about this...how dare these snot nose, hemp-wearing, pot smoking, drum beating, dreadlock wearing, "gee when is the financial aid check going to arrive", brat kids diss Pappy Boyington?

Maybe REAL rich white guys ought to be offended (like Bill Gates and Paul Allen) and stop donating money to the UW and then the Student Senators will find they don't have the time to be in the student senate because they need to get themselves real jobs.

If any WW2 vets read this blog, please accept my apology on behalf of the University of Washington - and particularly thier ignorant student senate. We remember what you all have done. My kids will remember too.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: ace; boyington; hero; highereducation; idiotlefties; leftismoncampus; marines; pappyboyington; usmc; veterans; wwii
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1 posted on 02/10/2006 1:57:57 PM PST by llevrok
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To: llevrok

UW-Ithaca on Puget Sound.


2 posted on 02/10/2006 2:00:45 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: llevrok

surplus population should be recycled for methane to power model corsairs


3 posted on 02/10/2006 2:01:13 PM PST by wildcatf4f3 (I'm becoming a performance artist so i can crap on the koran in public)
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To: llevrok

Were it not for people like Boyington, they would be forced to honor rich white nazis, or get sent off to labor camps.


4 posted on 02/10/2006 2:01:21 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: llevrok

bump for WW II


5 posted on 02/10/2006 2:01:37 PM PST by righthand man (WE'RE SOUTHERN AND PROUD OF IT)
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To: llevrok
Boyington was a Medal of Honor winner.

Those are the men who should be honored.

6 posted on 02/10/2006 2:01:51 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Gal. 4:16)
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To: advance_copy

Recall, Seattle has a statue of Lenin in one of their more "hip" neighborhoods, Freemont.


7 posted on 02/10/2006 2:02:44 PM PST by llevrok (Drink your beer, damnit! There are sober people in Africa.)
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To: llevrok; sionnsar; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Lincoln High Schools most famous graduate! Michael Medved was covering this yesterday too. Just another reason to not send my boys up I-5 to UW. Turns my stomache


8 posted on 02/10/2006 2:02:46 PM PST by Horatio Gates (Go Seah....uh...Mariners! Congrats to the Steelers. Well done.)
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To: righthand man

With all the remakes of 70s TV shows that Hollywood has been putting out lately, it would be nice to see them do a big screen version of "Baa Baa Black Sheep" (Just as long as they don't have Peter Frampton in it)


9 posted on 02/10/2006 2:03:25 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: llevrok
If you can find it Boyington's own book entitled Baa Baa Blacksheep) read it. It is actually a well told story of his life, successes and failures and ultimate self-reconciliation.
10 posted on 02/10/2006 2:03:56 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: llevrok

what a bunch of idiots!


11 posted on 02/10/2006 2:05:07 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: llevrok
It certainly is sickening the amount of PC garbage run that has been allowed to amok in liberal academia. It's become a mental compost heap where the most vile leftist tripe is allowed to fester and infect this nations young.
12 posted on 02/10/2006 2:05:14 PM PST by Hexenhammer ( Oregon: She dies by her own prescriptions)
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To: llevrok

If I remember correctly, Boyington was "Native American", in whole or in part. He deserves to be highly honored as do all vets of all America's conflicts.


13 posted on 02/10/2006 2:05:25 PM PST by Citizen4Right
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To: llevrok

Patty Murray voters ...


14 posted on 02/10/2006 2:06:18 PM PST by sono (Ted Kennedy's naming his dog Splash is like Jack Abramoff naming his dog Bribe.)
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To: Hexenhammer
It certainly is sickening the amount of PC garbage that has been allowed to run amok in liberal academia. It's become a mental compost heap where the most vile leftist tripe is allowed to fester and infect this nations young.

Reposted, as I don't know what happened the first time... *shrug

15 posted on 02/10/2006 2:07:06 PM PST by Hexenhammer ( Oregon: She dies by her own prescriptions)
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To: llevrok

No doubt they would prefer to honor Ward Churchill, Calypso Louie, Mama Sheehan and assorted homosexual "acivists."


16 posted on 02/10/2006 2:07:12 PM PST by clintonh8r (If you don't support the mission you don't support the troops. Period.)
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To: llevrok

University of Washington. Sounds like a bunch of pot smoking bums that should get a life. It's just to damned bad that they can't be drafted. I guess that is a bad idea because real men would not associate with them.


17 posted on 02/10/2006 2:08:07 PM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: llevrok

And these idiots are going to school with my tax money and more than likely will never pay back the loan. They should be denied any federal money if in fact they said WW II was the US murdering Nazi and followers of the Japanese sun god. I guess they believe like the President of Iran that there was no death camps in Europe and in the far East.


18 posted on 02/10/2006 2:08:34 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: llevrok

Freaking communist wastes of flesh. Their no better than the Islamaniacs.


19 posted on 02/10/2006 2:08:42 PM PST by Outland (Proud right-wing conspirator.)
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To: llevrok

Yet more proof that leftists are only comfortable viewing US troops as either victims or villains, but never heroes.


20 posted on 02/10/2006 2:09:00 PM PST by Argus
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To: Outland

I take it you don't like them? \sarc


21 posted on 02/10/2006 2:10:10 PM PST by llevrok (Drink your beer, damnit! There are sober people in Africa.)
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To: llevrok

This is what the disgusting little buggers had to say.

The minutes! (Go to the bottom of the fifth page)

http://senate.asuw.org/secretary/minutes/senate/12/02-07-2006.pdf


22 posted on 02/10/2006 2:10:11 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: llevrok

bump


23 posted on 02/10/2006 2:10:35 PM PST by VOA
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To: llevrok

http://www.mansell.com/pow_resources/camplists/tokyo/omori/omori_yanks.html

List of POW's at Omori. Boyington and my father were there.


24 posted on 02/10/2006 2:12:16 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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To: llevrok
Thanks for the post. Colonel Gregory "Pappy" Boyington and Medal of Honor recipient, did more for our country during WWII than any of these students speaking out against him will ever know. These are some of the same students who try to prevent military recruiters from coming on campus. Hopefully, as some of them mature, they will come to realize they have their freedom due to heroes like Col. Boyington.
25 posted on 02/10/2006 2:13:39 PM PST by jazusamo (A Progressive is only a Socialist in a transparent disguise.)
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To: llevrok
As a kid that grew up during and after WWII, I feel for the heros of that war. Almost everyone I knew had a relative of some kind that was either killed, wounded or had made it through without a scratch, but they all had relatives that had served in WWII. All these relatives were heros to us.

I had an uncle who was a marine and whose influence caused me to joint the army in 1959(don't ask me why not the marines, I just don't know).

For Pappy to not be recognized for the hero he was is disgraceful and these people should be slapped upside the head.

All the people who served during WWII are heros, people who put their lives on the line, the odds were very good they wouldn't make it back.

27 posted on 02/10/2006 2:14:40 PM PST by calex59 (seeing the light shouldn't make you go blind)
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To: llevrok

Sweet Jesus! Now I remember why I hate most college kids! I wish we could bring back the whole of the WW2 generation, make them 25, and unleash them on society. They would slap some sense into these Brokeback numbskulls before dinner!


28 posted on 02/10/2006 2:15:02 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: advance_copy

And rich imperial Japanese.


29 posted on 02/10/2006 2:15:31 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN - 3rd Bn. Fifth Marines RVN 1969)
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To: llevrok

I had a relevant issue in my clas yesterday. I have a Korean ninth grader who wouldn't stand for the Pledge. I don't force the kids to say it, but I demand they stand in respect. I took him aside and asked where in Korea he was from. Seoul. I told him my uncle Joe spent five months defending his country from June to November 1950, and 34 months in a Chinese POW hell after he was captured on the C'hong C'hong. I would not let that sacrifice be disrespected in my presence and I would visit his home with a picture on my uncle to shame his parents.


30 posted on 02/10/2006 2:15:46 PM PST by xkaydet65 (Peace, Love, Brotherhood, and Firepower. And the greatest of these is Firepower!)
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My God. I recently read a book about Philippines POW camps. I hope Omori was even half more civilized.

So many brave and strong men were brutalized by the japs in these camps.

31 posted on 02/10/2006 2:15:56 PM PST by llevrok (Drink your beer, damnit! There are sober people in Africa.)
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To: llevrok

My college history professors specialty was millitary avaition history. He had an interrview with Pappy that he had done that he had lent to me to listen. I wish I had made a copy of that. It was interesting to hear things straight from the the horses mouth.(unedited, hoo boy)


32 posted on 02/10/2006 2:16:50 PM PST by Rev DMV
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To: Bigh4u2

Jill Edwards and Ashley Miller are stupid @!#$%n idiots.


34 posted on 02/10/2006 2:17:16 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: llevrok

Give me a link! I lived in Spokane when I was a kid. I remember my old mans friends, WW2 Vets; Marines, Army, Coasties, Navy, would be disgusted by this.


35 posted on 02/10/2006 2:17:32 PM PST by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State, rats are evil.)
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To: Echo Talon

"idiots" is TOO Nice of a term for those "Zero-ounce-of-gray-matter" psych-a-doodle-doos.


36 posted on 02/10/2006 2:17:41 PM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: xkaydet65

WOW.....YOU DID GREAT!!!!!


37 posted on 02/10/2006 2:18:30 PM PST by goodnesswins (Dems..........Stuck on Stupidity proven at the SOTU.)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

And that's putting it 'mildly'!

I can think of a lot worse names!


38 posted on 02/10/2006 2:18:39 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: llevrok

I met him a few times at El Toro. While he frequently had too much to drink on those occasions, he was a great guy. Definately a drinking problem, though. Miss him.


39 posted on 02/10/2006 2:19:07 PM PST by barj
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To: llevrok

These turds don't deserve the protections and liberties provided to them by men like Boyington. Semper fi.


40 posted on 02/10/2006 2:19:23 PM PST by clintonh8r (If you don't support the mission you don't support the troops. Period.)
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To: llevrok
Well, you could propose a statue of Mao or Lenin just to see how they like that, likely better I expect
41 posted on 02/10/2006 2:19:41 PM PST by munin ( I support the war on Muslim terror and GWB Multi culturism will be the bane of our civilization)
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To: xkaydet65
I had a relevant issue in my class yesterday.

I got you had a "talk" with the snot nose and set him straight.

Reminds me of the time my wife, then an adult college student, was lectured by a Japan-American teen ager in class about the butchering of Native Americans by Europeans. She should apologize.

Calmly, she asked him then to apologize for Pearl Harbor. The punk walked out of class, upset.

42 posted on 02/10/2006 2:21:07 PM PST by llevrok (Drink your beer, damnit! There are sober people in Africa.)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

No doubt they are aspiring politicians.


43 posted on 02/10/2006 2:21:25 PM PST by clintonh8r (If you don't support the mission you don't support the troops. Period.)
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To: llevrok
My God. I recently read a book about Philippines POW camps. I hope Omori was even half more civilized. So many brave and strong men were brutalized by the japs in these camps.

My father had many scars from the brutallity. Many POW's were skinned alive or gutted alive. I've had WWII vets share with me the unbelievably gruesome, at times, hard to listen to, treatment of the POW's by the Japanese. Many were decapitated. God bless them all.

44 posted on 02/10/2006 2:21:46 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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To: Little Bill
Pls see post 33 and right under the posting for links...

Please wind up my adopted part of the state, the Inland Empire, on this -

llevrok in olympia

45 posted on 02/10/2006 2:23:18 PM PST by llevrok (Drink your beer, damnit! There are sober people in Africa.)
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To: BenLurkin

I have it... and it is good.


46 posted on 02/10/2006 2:23:28 PM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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To: llevrok

I went out with a woman whose father was on Baatan. Said he was glad he never had any sons. I was in Chelsea Naval at the time, It took me years to realize I was insulted, or he didn't realize he had no class.


47 posted on 02/10/2006 2:24:31 PM PST by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State, rats are evil.)
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To: VOA

I don't think you could ever accurately portray the accomplishments of our "Greatest Generation" with a college memorial, nor can you tarnish their story by denying them one. This was a generation whose actions spoke so loudly for them that the echoes will be heard for generations. UW's actions will speak for them as well.


48 posted on 02/10/2006 2:24:44 PM PST by willyd
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To: Bushbacker1
Notice how I referred to your dad's captors? Can you tell I grew up in the early 50's? Some habits and grudges don't fade.

Indeed, God Bless them all.

49 posted on 02/10/2006 2:25:19 PM PST by llevrok (Drink your beer, damnit! There are sober people in Africa.)
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To: VanDeKoik
I'm a college student but even academic institutions here in Liberal South Florida rarely gets THIS HIGH on the MARXISM/ANTI-WAR Kool-Aide.

Then again, it's only a matter of time and more Anti-American Liberal teachers/boardmembers.

50 posted on 02/10/2006 2:25:44 PM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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