Posted on 02/11/2006 7:35:54 AM PST by devane617
Immersion. Living in Spain for a time with a limited vocabulary of Spanish - I learned by immersion quicker than than any other method. Call it a matter of necessity. If the persons around me were required to speak my language - what would I have gained?
Dallas Independent School District
My comments on immersion are in Post # 8.
Some of your points are in error.
Even illegal immigrants pay taxes that fund the schools. It's called rent. Unless they are homeless, they pay property taxes. They also pay sales taxes when they buy things, which goes to the state and provides overall statewide school funding.
Yeah, they don't pay income taxes, but they don't typically work high paying jobs... so they wouldn't really pay taxes if they were legal. Besides, we have no state income tax in Texas.
Wow, they have over 50% illegal students? Glad I don't live there, are the taxes outrageous in that area? Seems like they would be to support all those illegal students.
Not too bad. Cheaper than both coasts...and Texas does not have a state income tax.
Undoubtedly I was busily typing while said reply was being posted!
The two propositions you advance would, undoubtedly, solve 90% of the problem.
No they aren't. I'm well aware of the counter arguments you make, and was as I posted mine. To wit:
Even illegal immigrants pay taxes that fund the schools. It's called rent. Unless they are homeless, they pay property taxes
It's common for people from Mexico and Central America to live 2 - 3 families to a house. This means they violate the occupancy formulas in the zoning ordinances. So it becomes a subsidy: with 8 - 10 children in a house, there is no way that taxes of say, $2000 / yr (very low in California) would pay for 10 kids in school at an average cost of $7000 / yr, even averaged over decades. Even with just one family and say, 3 - 5 kids (low to average for Mexican / Cent. Amer. families) it's typically a big net subsidy - virtually all are poor, and live in housing that is assessed at low rates. Ever wonder why California is so deep in red ink?
They also pay sales taxes when they buy things, which goes to the state and provides overall statewide school funding
Once again, the amount is trivial compared to the government goodies they get, even when aggregated with other taxes. Why do you think they come here? And unlike Texas, not all states fund schools from sales taxes.
Yeah, they don't pay income taxes, but they don't typically work high paying jobs... so they wouldn't really pay taxes if they were legal. Besides, we have no state income tax in Texas.
Regardless of whether they pay federal or state income taxes due to use of fraudulent docs, they benefit again: they have the protection of the laws and forces of the United States. All the benefits, no obligations. The fact that some measly taxes are taken out means nothing to them. Price of being in the game. Look around the net. You'll find that scamming the taxes is done too: filing for the EITC under the false name, multiple names filing to see if they get someone else's refund (delivered to a PO box in a small border town, in one case).
Come on. Don't try to equate illegals to citizens. If they were interested in playing by the rules, they would have. Once they cross the line into doing nasties....it just leads to more. The fact that our system is set up so that they occasionally end up having to bear the same costs as us merely says they can't totally live outside the system. It still doesn't justify their presence or use of taxpayer funded services.
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