Posted on 02/12/2006 9:17:16 AM PST by genefromjersey
Lay Off the Boy Scouts !!
I’ve had it with the vicious attacks on the Boy Scouts of America !
I’ve seen them called “ a Brownshirt Taliban” , “KKK for Kiddies”, and worse !
The main bone of contention seems to be that the organization uses its free association rights (upheld by the Supreme Court) to screen out potential Boy Scout leaders who are openly gay : a precaution most parents whole-heartedly endorse.
“This is discrimination !” , the protestors howl. “ There is no scientific evidence that gays are more likely to be pedophiles than heterosexuals are.”
I’ve looked at the available evidence, and tend to agree – but pedophilia is not the issue !
Pedophilia is the desire to have sex with very young children , and those who practice it are (statistically) male members of the immediate family , and juveniles.
From a Scouting perspective, the young boys at risk for pedophile molestation are Cub Scouts – who are usually well protected by Den Mothers. Cub Scouts are also quite a bit less likely to be far from home on extended camping trips.
The real issue is ephebophilia ( sometimes called hebephilia ) : the desire to have sex with young adolescents.
Ephebophilia is most notable among male homosexuals – many of whom see nothing wrong with having sex with a young adolescent male-whose sexual orientation is still somewhat amorphous.
Here is a link to a male homosexual information center that studies this problem:
http://www.mhamic.org/terminology/terminology_print.htm
If you would like to assess how widespread this disorder * is, I suggest you go to your favorite online search engine –eg: Google, Yahoo, or Jeeves – and type in the word “twinks”. (See how many entries you get. 100,000 or more is not improbable.)
A “twink” is a young boy – preferably about 14 years old – and one of the favorite pornography topics for male homosexuals (and others who frequent gay sex sites).
The Boy Scouts of America have been around for a very long time-and have had to deal with the problem of sexual abuse of young adolescents by older, homosexual leaders for a very long time.
One such “wave” of abuse occurred in my area about a generation ago,and created a major scandal. Right on the heels of this scandal,a trusted leader-not involved with the abuse, as far as I know- decided it would be a good time to “ come out of the closet “. ( Talk about really bad timing !)
The organization dropped him like a hot potato . He took them to court and lost-and lost-and lost: all the way up to the top.
Since then,assorted civil liberties groups , gay advocacy groups , and ideologues of various stripes have harrassed the Boy Scouts like a swarm of gnats: pressuring everybody who will listen to them to penalize the Scouts for making the safety of their membership more important than soothing the ruffled feathers of those most likely to do harm.
I guess this is what passes for civil rights now !
* note: The American Psychiatric Association still classifies ephebophilia as a “disorder” – but just barely. It seems the problem is so common among gays , it has become “normal”.
"The real issue is ephebophilia ( sometimes called hebephilia ) : the desire to have sex with young adolescents.
Ephebophilia is most notable among male homosexuals – many of whom see nothing wrong with having sex with a young adolescent male-whose sexual orientation is still somewhat amorphous."
This needs to be repeated. In fact, the entire thread needs to be BTTT again and again.
It's black and white. No gray. Homsoexuality is immoral, unhealthy, and unnatural. Men (and women) who practice it or promote it need to STAY THE HE!! AWAY FROM CHILDREN. And treated with compassion - they should be told the truth that they don't need to be "gay". No one is born "gay" and people can change.
On my honor I will do my best To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law; To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.
Hey ! We can't have that attitude !
Scout Law
TRUSTWORTHY
A Scout tells the truth. He keeps his promises. Honesty is part of his code of conduct. People can depend on him.
What ? No Moral Relativism ?
LOYAL
A Scout is true to his family, Scout leaders, friends, school, and nation.
Are you suggesting I'm disloyal ?
HELPFUL
A Scout is concerned about other people. He does things willingly for others without pay or reward.
Volunteerism ! Sick-sick-sick !
FRIENDLY
A Scout is a friend to all. He is a brother to other Scouts. He seeks to understand others. He respects those with ideas and customs other than his own.
We want him to be friendlier to Scoutmasters,if you catch my drift...
COURTEOUS
A Scout is polite to everyone regardless of age or position. He knows good manners make it easier for people to get along together.
Act up ! Act out ! Raise your fists, and SHOUT !
KIND
A Scout understands there is strength in being gentle. He treats others as he wants to be treated. He does not hurt or kill harmless things without reason.
THIS we like !
OBEDIENT
A Scout follows the rules of his family, school, and troop. He obeys the laws of his community and country. If he thinks these rules and laws are unfair, he tries to have them changed in an orderly manner rather than disobey them.
NO-no-no-no-no !!!
CHEERFUL
A Scout looks for the bright side of things. He cheerfully does tasks that come his way. He tries to make others happy.
That should be a governmental function,dummy !
THRIFTY
A Scout works to pay his way and to help others. He saves for unforeseen needs. He protects and conserves natural resources. He carefully uses time and property.
Why bother, when you can get a GRANT ?
BRAVE
A Scout can face danger even if he is afraid. He has the courage to stand for what he thinks is right even if others laugh at or threaten him.
Hey,kid: play it smart: Run like Hell !
CLEAN
A Scout keeps his body and mind fit and clean. He goes around with those who believe in living by these same ideals. He helps keep his home and community clean.
Outrageous discrimination against the other-oriented !
REVERENT
A Scout is reverent toward God. He is faithful in his religious duties. He respects the beliefs of others.
How dare you mention religion ?
Scout Motto / With Response
Be Prepared ....Let somebody else prepare !
Scout Slogan /With Response
Do a Good Turn Daily.... That's what paid social workers are for !
Wouldn't care if they fell through and you had to string 'em up again!
I got really ticked off when some snotty SOB on another site started comparing the BSA with the KKK.He claimed they were a "White Christians only" group, which really burned me up; because a generation ago, when I was involved in Cub Scouting, I remembered we had racially mixed dens, with members from non-Christian backgrounds.
I decided to look into a few other things the radicals keep trying to sweep under the rug-and I hit paydirt with the correct diagnosis: ephebophilia-that so many male gays embrace.
Hopefully, I'll make it through the night (some nights I wonder !) to my 72nd birthday, and I've resolved to keep throwing the crap back into the faces of the radicals: not just here, but on the sites where THEY feel comfortable.
How can one die better, than in facing fearful odds-for the ashes of his fathers-and the temples of his gods ?
I am the mother of an Eagle Scout. I wear my mother's Eagle Scout pin every work day and Sunday. I am so proud of my fine son.
Thanks. I will.I know I'm doing some good, because I've got tme off sulking now; but, they'll be back.
Forty years ago when I was a cub scout the den I was in was majority black with a black female den leader and only two white boys. I enjoyed the experience so much that I am a boy scout leader today. No descrimination in scouts except where the safety of the youth is concerned, so no sexual predators of any sort.
I hear you !
Just curious, did the Mormans get rid of the Girl Scouts? If they did than you do have to worry, if not than you will not have to be thrown out of Morman churches and such. Either way, good luck. I am sure that gays will never be part of the Boy Scouts of America in the next fifty years...after that who knows. I think we have a conservative group of kids growing up so they will fix the world hopefully.
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