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Female Soldier Punished for Talking With Yesha Girls
www.arutzsheva.net ^ | 16:05 Feb 16, '06 / 18 Shevat 5766 | Hana Levi Julian

Posted on 02/16/2006 6:33:15 AM PST by Esther Ruth

Female Soldier Punished for Talking With Yesha Girls 16:05 Feb 16, '06 / 18 Shevat 5766 By Hana Levi Julian

A female IDF soldier has been disciplined for answering a group of girls who criticized soldiers. The incident in question occurred as they rode together on a civilian bus towards Beit El.

The soldier was talking with a group of girls who were returning from last week's demonstration in Jerusalem protesting the vicious manner in which the Amona outpost had been evacuated.

The soldier was warned by a female IDF officer, who was also on the bus, not to talk to the girls. The soldier ignored the warning and continued her conversation. She told the officer that there was no rule against talking with residents of Yesha and that she was in favor of doing so.

“They are human beings just as we are,” she told the officer. “They are not enemies who have turned against the Jewish people.”

The officer filed a formal complaint against the soldier, who was tried by the Binyamin Brigade commander and confined to the base.

The IDF told reporters that the soldier acted against orders forbidding “confrontational conversations" with residents of Yesha.

Published: 14:02 February 16, 2006 Last Update: 16:05 February 16, 2006


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: girls; idf; inthearmynow; israel; talking; yesha
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1 posted on 02/16/2006 6:33:17 AM PST by Esther Ruth
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2 posted on 02/16/2006 6:34:13 AM PST by Esther Ruth (I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee - Genesis 12:3)
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To: Esther Ruth

Ummm -- OK.


3 posted on 02/16/2006 6:47:28 AM PST by MajorityOfOne
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To: Esther Ruth

Israeli Cat Fight
( popcorn anyone)


4 posted on 02/16/2006 6:55:43 AM PST by Waverunner
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To: Esther Ruth
She deserves to be punished. She apparently disobeyed a direct order.

She should be doing her job, not having a coffee klatsch with the civilians.

5 posted on 02/16/2006 7:02:25 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
Deuteronomy 6:18
6 posted on 02/16/2006 7:10:48 AM PST by Esther Ruth (I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee - Genesis 12:3)
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To: wideawake

Yep, it's hard to beat the crap out of people you like.


7 posted on 02/16/2006 7:10:59 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Waverunner

Make sure it's kosher popcorn.


8 posted on 02/16/2006 7:12:34 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Esther Ruth
In any army, you obey lawful orders. It is entirely lawful for an officer to order a soldier to do their work and not chit-chat with civilians.

How can an army maintain discipline in such circumstances?

9 posted on 02/16/2006 7:15:29 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Waverunner

"Yesha, that's my baby, No sir, don't mean maybe..."


10 posted on 02/16/2006 7:15:34 AM PST by kenavi ("Remember, your fathers sacrificed themselves without need of a messianic complex." Ariel Sharon)
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11 posted on 02/16/2006 7:16:44 AM PST by Bender2 (Redid my FR Homepage just for ya'll... Now, Vote Republican and vote often!)
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To: wideawake

That begs the question of why the order was given in the first place.


12 posted on 02/16/2006 7:19:24 AM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: Nachum
Yep, it's hard to beat the crap out of people you like.

Is the government of Israel wrong to disband settlements? Of course it is.

Does that authorize soldiers to spend their onshift time having theological and political discussions? Not by any stretch of the imagination.

Israel is a democratic country and the settlers should spend their time convincing their fellow countrymen not to abandon land that is theirs by divine right. Distracting soldiers who have real work to do is counterproductive.

if you want to change soldiers' assignments, change the government that employs them.

13 posted on 02/16/2006 7:19:56 AM PST by wideawake
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel.

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14 posted on 02/16/2006 7:24:19 AM PST by SJackson (There is but one language which can be held to these people, and this is terror, William Eaton)
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To: wideawake
Maybe my momma never taught me how to goose step, darn.
15 posted on 02/16/2006 7:26:59 AM PST by Esther Ruth (I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee - Genesis 12:3)
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To: rightwingcrazy
Doesn't really matter "why". It was not an illegal or immoral order...therefore, it must be obeyed. Simple.
17 posted on 02/16/2006 7:32:31 AM PST by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: KeepUSfree

That's relevant to the soldier receiving the order, but not to us. From what I read, the order seemed corrosive to the relationship between their army and the people they are supposed to serve and protect.


18 posted on 02/16/2006 9:04:25 AM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: wideawake

Well put. Thank you.


19 posted on 02/16/2006 9:04:45 AM PST by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: wideawake
if you want to change soldiers' assignments, change the government that employs them.

Given the hatred that exist between certain people in the government against the religious in Israel, how can you be sure that it was as simple as you say?

Was the soldier punished for a failure to follow orders or "fraternizing with the enemy"?

20 posted on 02/16/2006 9:36:38 AM PST by Nachum
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