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Airbus A380 test wing breaks just below ultimate load target
Flight International ^ | 16 February 2006 | MAX KINGSLEY-JONES

Posted on 02/16/2006 2:01:08 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham

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To: My2Cents

Argh.


21 posted on 02/16/2006 2:17:00 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Airbus has been running load trials on a full scale A380 static test
specimen in Toulouse since late 2004


And still flunks the test even though they've written the test.
Now that Euro Stuck-On-Stupid!
22 posted on 02/16/2006 2:17:14 PM PST by VOA
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To: farlander

Yes, you're quite correct, but the ULoad is meant to address non-every-day-use, and should have margin itself. The static test should give an indication of the real margin. Playing the game, as they termed it, will cause the plane damage in severe conditions, and the failure of this test insures they will have a difficult time accurately predicting the failure stress.

They have screwed La Chien with this.

7E7 - Yeah, baby!


23 posted on 02/16/2006 2:18:18 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

What is the french word for "OPPS!!"?


24 posted on 02/16/2006 2:18:55 PM PST by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: Paleo Conservative

A-380 Ping!


25 posted on 02/16/2006 2:19:41 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: jettester

Mmmm... C-17! They fly one over the house every year during the airshow, monster low.

I'm not entirely surprised that C-17 did have a similar problem, but this is a passenger plane in this story. Their lack of conservatism in design is a physical and perceptual problem for their customer base.


26 posted on 02/16/2006 2:21:02 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

I take this is not a good result for Airbus.


27 posted on 02/16/2006 2:21:03 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Frank_Discussion

I wonder if they will quietly re-write the specs for Va, Vb, Vne, Vno?

If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going.


28 posted on 02/16/2006 2:21:38 PM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

We were flying along, nice as you please, halfway across the Atlantic Ocean, when the wing fell off. I was shocked, I tell you...shocked!


29 posted on 02/16/2006 2:22:03 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Blueflag

Heh. Perhaps so.


30 posted on 02/16/2006 2:22:21 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: SF Republican
Is this where they actually bend a wing until it breaks?

An entire aircraft for this test. One or two prototypes are built for testing to destruction. They simply pull up on the wings and see how much deflection occurs before the wings break. The usual goal is 150% of design limit load. Looks like they hit 147% which is still quite good.

The video I have of the Boeing 777 wing test showed they got to 154% of design limit load before the wings broke. When the wings let go, it sounds like a cannon going off.

31 posted on 02/16/2006 2:23:16 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Pat Buchanan lost a family member in the holocaust. The man fell out of a guard tower.)
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To: VOA

"And still flunks the test even though they've written the test."

Exactly. Much more succinctly put than I was saying.


32 posted on 02/16/2006 2:24:06 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: jettester

Wouldn't beefing up equal higher fuel consumption? As I recall from reading a while back, they already had a problem meeting the fuel consumption standards they advertised to their customers.


33 posted on 02/16/2006 2:24:49 PM PST by CdMGuy
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To: A.A. Cunningham

I've had several British cars. I've had one French car. None of them were worth a darn, although the British cars were cute.

I'll not be flying this aircraft, thanks very much. One Pugeot was more than enough for me to understand French engineering excellence.


34 posted on 02/16/2006 2:25:39 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: farlander
Actually, that 1.5 is the Saftey Factor...not Margin. Failing at 1.5 Factor of Safety is zero Margin of Safety. They will either have to modify the wing, or accept a lower Gross Weight.

§ 25.303 Factor of safety. Unless otherwise specified, a factor of safety of 1.5 must be applied to the prescribed limit load which are considered external loads on the structure. When a loading condition is prescribed in terms of ultimate loads, a factor of safety need not be applied unless otherwise specified.

Federal law, ours and EASA, says they are screwed

35 posted on 02/16/2006 2:26:45 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: A.A. Cunningham

The Boeing 777 went 157% of wing load before it broke ... I saw it in a video during a tour at the Everett plant ....


36 posted on 02/16/2006 2:31:51 PM PST by SkyDancer ("I'd Rather Go Hunting With Cheney Than Ride With Ted Kennedy Over A Bridge")
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To: Darkwolf377

Aren't these the people who's tail fin broke off in NYC in 2001 killing like 280 people???


37 posted on 02/16/2006 2:33:01 PM PST by SkyDancer ("I'd Rather Go Hunting With Cheney Than Ride With Ted Kennedy Over A Bridge")
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To: Darkwolf377

Airbus: We've got it Close Enough


38 posted on 02/16/2006 2:34:47 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: jettester

Regular, or extra crispy?


39 posted on 02/16/2006 2:36:26 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: COEXERJ145

At the Boeing plant in Everett they have a 767 that they never were able to break the wing. We saw it during a tour. The whole fuselage twisted but the wing never broke ...


40 posted on 02/16/2006 2:36:51 PM PST by SkyDancer ("I'd Rather Go Hunting With Cheney Than Ride With Ted Kennedy Over A Bridge")
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