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Probe Finds Terrorists in U.S. Training for War
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Feb. 17, 2006

Posted on 02/17/2006 5:40:32 AM PST by USA Girl

HOMELAND INSECURITY Probe finds terrorists in U.S. 'training for war' Neighbors of Muslim encampment fear retaliation if they report to police Posted: February 17, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

Entrance to Hancock, N.Y., encampment (Courtesy Northeast Intelligence Network) The Pakistani terrorist group Jamaat ul Fuqra is using Islamic schools in the United States as training facilities, confirms a joint investigative report by an intelligence think tank and an independent reporter.

A covert visit to an encampment in the Catskill Mountains near Hancock, N.Y., called "Islamberg" found neighboring residents deeply concerned about military-style training taking place there but frustrated by the lack of attention from federal authorities, said the report by the Northeast Intelligence Network, which worked with an Internet blogger, "CP," to publish an interim report.

The neighbors interviewed said they feared retaliation if they were to make a report to law enforcement officials.

"We see children – small children run around over there when they should be in school," one neighbor said. "We hear bursts of gunfire all of the time, and we know that there is military-like training going on there. Those people are armed and dangerous."

The resident said his household gets "nothing but menacing looks from the people who go in and out of the camp, and sometimes they yell at us to mind our own business when we are just driving by."

"We don't even dare to slow down when we drive by," the resident said. "They own this mountain and they know it, and there is nothing we can do about it but move, and we can't even do that. Who wants to buy property next to that?"

Jamaat ul-Fuqra, or "community of the impoverished," was formed by Pakistani cleric Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani in New York in 1980. Gilani, who refers to himself as "the sixth Sultan Ul Faqr," has stated his objective is to "purify" Islam through violence.

Gilani also is the founder of a village in South Carolina called "Holy Islamville."

The encampment in Hancock, N.Y., is run by a front for Jamaat ul-Fuqra called Muslims of the Americas Inc., which operates a school known as the International Quranic Open University Inc.

The facility is on 70 acres of remote land on the western edge of the Catskill Mountains, about 40 miles southeast of Binghamton, N.Y. A sign at the entrance identifies the place as "Islamberg." The other side of the sign says "International Quranic Open University" and "Muslims of the Americas Inc."

Every one of the neighboring residents interviewed expressed disappointment and additional concern that federal law enforcement is not investigating the activities, the report said.

"These people need to be investigated," a resident said. "They are training for war, either for war here in this country or against our troops. Who in the h--- is allowing this stuff to happen right here in our own backyard, and why?"

Headquarters in the USA

Though primarily based in Lahore, Pakistan, Jamaat ul-Fuqra has operational headquarters in the U.S.

The group seeks to counter "excessive Western influence on Islam" through any means necessary, publicly embracing the ideology that violence is a significant part of its quest to purify Islam. The enemies of Islam, the group says, are all non-Muslims and any Muslim who does not follow the tenets of fundamentalist Islam as detailed in the Quran.

Jamaat ul-Fuqra openly recruits through various social service organizations in the U.S., including the prison system. Members live in compounds where they agree to abide by the laws of Jamaat ul-Fuqra, which are considered to be above local, state and federal authority.

According to the report, there appear to be more than two dozen "Jamaats," or private communities, loosely connected and scattered throughout the U.S. with an estimated 5,000 members.

An investigation of the group by the Colorado Attorney General's office in the early 1980s found several of the communities operate covert paramilitary training compounds, including one in a mountainous area near Buena Vista, Colo.

Muslims of the Americas Inc., a tax-exempt organization formed in 1980 by Gilani, has been directly linked by court documents to Jamaat ul-Fuqra. The organization operates communes of primarily black, American-born Muslims throughout the U.S. The investigation confirmed members commonly use aliases and intentional spelling variations of their names and routinely deny the existence of Jamaat ul-Fuqra.

Members have been known to go to Pakistan for paramilitary training, but the investigation found evidence the U.S. encampments offer such training so members don't need to risk traveling abroad amid increased scrutiny following the 9-11 attacks.

The report says Jamaat ul-Fuqra members have "purchased isolated rural properties in North America to live as a community, practice their faith, and insulate themselves from Western culture. The group has established rural encampments that U.S. authorities allege are linked to murder, bombings and other felonies throughout North America."

U.S. authorities have probed the group for charges ranging from links to al-Qaida to laundering and funneling money into Pakistan for terrorist activities. The organization supports various terrorist groups operating in Pakistan and Kashmir, and Gilani himself is linked directly to Hamas and Hezbollah. Throughout the 1980s, JF was responsible for a number of terrorist acts across the United States, including numerous fire-bombings.

Gilani was at one time in Pakistani custody for the abduction of American journalist Daniel Pearl. Intelligence sources have determined Pearl was attempting to meet with Gilani in the days before he disappeared in Karachi. Intelligence sources also suggest a link between Jamaat ul Fuqra and Richard Reid, the infamous "shoe bomber" who attempted to ignite explosives aboard a Paris-to-Miami passenger flight Dec. 22, 2001.

Field investigation

Douglas J. Hagmann, director of the Northeast Intelligence Network and multi-state licensed private investigator, and others conducted their covert field investigation Feb. 8 and 9 at the Hancock encampment connected to the terrorist group.

Primary access to the compound is an unmarked road – labeled on county and state maps as "Moslem Road"

Two structures with capacities of up to 100 each appear to be used for religious training, education and meeting purposes, according to local sources. Investigators found a weapons firing range that is not visible from the road or any other publicly accessible vantage position. It appeared to have been recently used.

Near the eastern perimeter of the property – on a hillside – appears to be a military-style training area, including ropes hung from tree limbs, an obstacle course, wooden fences for scaling and other items and structures one would expect to find in a "boot-camp" setting. The area also appeared to have been used recently.

The report noted the property is near the Cannonsville Reservoir and Watershed Area, one of several water supply sources servicing New York City and adjacent areas.

The investigators noted men appeared to be designated to provide security for the compound, with some posted at guard shacks.

"Although no activity of extreme significance was observed (the presence of armed sentries guarding the perimeter of the compound excluded) during this period of surveillance, it was obvious that measures to insure that the activities taking place at this location were well insulated from public view," the report said.

Investigators interviewed six area residents, who each requested anonymity for the report and found them to be consistent. The report summarized the information:

* The encampment has been in operation for at least 20 years and appears to maintain a steady level of occupancy. Each source confirmed the existence of at least one armed guard at the main entrance, especially during "special events" that result in a significant number of visitors by vehicle. The events appear to be meetings or religious services held within the compound.

* Nearly every weekend, sound of gunfire can be heard from the camp. According to one neighbor who stated he's a combat veteran of the Vietnam War, some of the weapons obviously are "automatic" and large-caliber. On at least two occasions last summer, area residents heard small explosions.

* The occupants won't allow anyone not affiliated with their organization to enter the encampment. All of the residents stated they've never observed a marked law enforcement vehicle enter the compound at any time.

* Visitors to the compound are numerous and frequent. All visitors appear to be black males operating late model vehicles, mostly SUVs, and many possess license plates from Michigan, Ohio, South Carolina and Tennessee.

* At least once each week, private deliveries of unknown items are made to the camp by unmarked box-style trucks. The trucks, usually at the compound for two to three hours at a time, are operated by black males or men who appear to be of Middle Eastern origin.

* Men of Middle Eastern origin appear to be "frequent guests" of the encampment, many in traditional Islamic attire. Some appear to stay at the encampment for three to four days or longer. During the visits, activity and security at the compound is heightened noticeably.

The report also says it found that a number of the residents of the compound work for the New York State Thruway, as tollbooth operators in the New York City area or are employed at a nearby center that processes credit card transactions and maintains vital confidential financial records.

The report concludes additional investigation by law enforcement authorities is required.

"The appropriate action must be taken now to insure the safety and security of the United States, or it is certain that we will be forced to deal with the consequences. …"

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1 posted on 02/17/2006 5:40:35 AM PST by USA Girl
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To: USA Girl
Anyone here live in the area?

Mike

2 posted on 02/17/2006 5:44:05 AM PST by MichaelP ("Opportunities multiply as they are seized." Sun Tzu)
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To: USA Girl

This is going on in Hillary's state. Where in the hell is she? Her office shoul;d be flooded with calls about this camp. The same goes for Chucky Schumer.


3 posted on 02/17/2006 5:47:06 AM PST by Russ
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To: USA Girl

Hey neighbors!

Just think of how much money a brand new Boy Scout retreat would bring in if you were to excercize your constitutional right to claim that land.


4 posted on 02/17/2006 5:49:49 AM PST by BigDaddyTX (Don't Mex with Texas)
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To: MichaelP; USA Girl; indcons

I live near Syracuse. I don't know where Hancock is and the Catskills are a few hours away but still too close for comfort. Is there a NY or PA ping list of some kind?


5 posted on 02/17/2006 5:50:17 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: USA Girl

There is another thread on this right now,

But it can't be emphasized too much.


6 posted on 02/17/2006 5:51:59 AM PST by Khurkris ("Hell, I was there"...Elmer Keith.)
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To: USA Girl
"Islamberg" "Holy Islamville" "Moslem Road"

Subtle.

7 posted on 02/17/2006 5:52:08 AM PST by Lunatic Fringe (North Texas Solutions http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: MichaelP

WTF?


8 posted on 02/17/2006 5:52:08 AM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Russ

Exactly.
But if she did something about it, it might get her more support, so let's let the Feds handle it without her.


9 posted on 02/17/2006 5:53:01 AM PST by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Russ
Hey, they aren't nutty Christians, so there is no real threat.


10 posted on 02/17/2006 5:54:15 AM PST by Lunatic Fringe (North Texas Solutions http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: USA Girl; joanie-f; Lurker; Noumenon; Travis McGee; Squantos; RobFromGa; Doomonyou; B4Ranch; ...
Dragon's Fury Series ping. The very types of scenarios described therein as fiction are shaping up all over the country as reality.
there appear to be more than two dozen "Jamaats," or private communities, loosely connected and scattered throughout the U.S. with an estimated 5,000 members.
So, in this "sect" alone, there are something like 5000 training. For what? Their own public pronouncments make it clear...
The group seeks to counter "excessive Western influence on Islam" through any means necessary, publicly embracing the ideology that violence is a significant part of its quest to purify Islam. The enemies of Islam, the group says, are all non-Muslims and any Muslim who does not follow the tenets of fundamentalist Islam as detailed in the Quran.
In this time of war, against this very ideology, it is insane to not immediately shut down any such camps subscribing to this ideology, and if they resist, they should get the violence they desire and become wholly "purified" by fire.
11 posted on 02/17/2006 5:54:41 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Russ
Calls to Hillery and Schumer are not going to do any good IMO. They both belong to the American hating crowd and would just as soon see America gone.

If there is anything done...it will be up to us to do it. Laws against such camps???hell, we have laws pushed and passed by Mccain that give terrorists (who have promised to kill us all, by the way) rights.

When the sh!t hits the fan....Hillery, Schumer et al will not be around. They will be hiding like the rats that they are, hoping and praying that they can avoid the appointment they have at the most populous intersection of the town at high noon.

12 posted on 02/17/2006 5:58:37 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Islam, liberalism and abortions are terminal..)
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To: USA Girl

I'm hoping that the Feds are preparing a major criminal case so that these Islamofascists are locked up rather than just deport them. If I lived nearby, I would be stocking up on lots of ammo and investing in a class III firearms license.


13 posted on 02/17/2006 5:58:48 AM PST by EricT. ("I reject your reality and substitute my own."-Adam Savage)
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To: MichaelP

This is the town where I went to school (Grades K-12 in 2 buildings). My home town is just down the river on the PA side.

Hancock NY is where the East Branch and West Branch meet to form the Delaware River. I have family members living there.

This town is on Highway 17 which runs from NYC to Binghamton NY and beyond. This is along the NY drug route. The town cops are mainly locals with "not too extensive" training.

Several years ago, we had our first murder. A local woman stumbled on individuals breaking into a home. They shot her in the back. Everyone knew who did it and where they lived but the local cops and state police wouldn't go up the mountain after them. A few years later they left the mountain and police in some southern state picked them up.

This past fall, my nephew and friend were checking out an area (and I thinks its by this compound) for turkey hunting. They were walking along a road when someone unloaded a shotgun on them from a spot in the woods. (Like the Cheney accident but this was no accident.) They have suspects but the local police are scared. My nephew got the most of the blast but was better when I saw him at Christmas. (He's got a lot of pellets to work their way out.)

Bottom line, if you want to do bad things and get ignored by law enforcement, this is the perfect remote area to do it. And there have been just enough "bad things" that have happened to the locals that they don't want to become targets. If there was ever a nest of rats that needed to be cleaned out. This is it.


14 posted on 02/17/2006 6:02:28 AM PST by schwing_wifey (The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone....Dostoevsky PST +9 hours)
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To: USA Girl

They probably pay no taxes on the land either. No doubt a religious exemption.
Someone should send this info to all interested NRA members.


15 posted on 02/17/2006 6:02:36 AM PST by westmichman (Please pray with me for global warming)
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To: schwing_wifey
Good lord! Has anyone tried calling the FBI?

Mike

16 posted on 02/17/2006 6:06:06 AM PST by MichaelP ("Opportunities multiply as they are seized." Sun Tzu)
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To: westmichman
I live not far from the South Carolina Camp...
they claim some sort of "VISION" occurred there..
now they claim it as the "First Holy Islamic Shrine in America"

That's got me worried....all these people do is stake out a site then claim it's holy..
Here's the link to the site...
www.holyislamville.org
17 posted on 02/17/2006 6:07:32 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: USA Girl

Can we get an adress and google it to get a satilite map on it?


18 posted on 02/17/2006 6:09:49 AM PST by mr_hammer (They have eyes, but do not see . . .)
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To: schwing_wifey

See post #4


19 posted on 02/17/2006 6:10:08 AM PST by BigDaddyTX (Don't Mex with Texas)
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To: Robe


I was born in SC, lived there for a fair bit after college, still have numerous relatives...included the majority of my extended famil. Only the MOST foolish of islamofacist...will even dare to try something in that state. if they do...all of'em will be buried in the Santee never to be found, along with some pork bar-b-que.


20 posted on 02/17/2006 6:10:12 AM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: USA Girl
There's nothing ILLEGAL going on (apparently).
  1. It's private property.
  2. With Private Property the OWNER can keep anyone OUT as they please. This includes posting ARMED Guards.
  3. On Private Property ANY law abiding Citizen or LEGAL resident alien can carry firearms
  4. On said PRIVATE property said firearms can be discharged.
  5. Automatic (Class 3) Weapons are NOT Illegal (depending on NY state Law)
  6. As to the 'explosions' heard. The owners could be clearing tree stumps or boulders.
  7. Also, gun powder and cannon fuse is LEGAL. So again any 'explosions' heard are meaningless.
  8. And the neighbors don't like the camps name, well excuuuuuuuse me while I call the KGB.
Bottom line, if these people weren't Middle Eastern, this would be a non story. Plus what do the neighbors want? An FBI-ATF raid and have another WACO. That was wrong and so would this. Or maybe 'they' want a new gun law - 'Whites Only'. Yeah, that's the ticket.
21 posted on 02/17/2006 6:11:21 AM PST by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: metmom

Syracuse has Hancock airport, does it not? I believe Hancock is a norther suburb of Syracuse.


22 posted on 02/17/2006 6:11:37 AM PST by MortMan (Trains stop at train stations. On my desk is a workstation...)
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To: MichaelP

Ha Ha Ha Ha..... Too funny..... Will never happen and if it did, the person who called would have a short future... you have to understand, this is an area (small home town) where everybody knows everybody elses business... nothing is secret... if the "wrong" people found out that you were the snitch, you'd (at a minimum) lose a house or car. (Fire.)


23 posted on 02/17/2006 6:12:16 AM PST by schwing_wifey (The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone....Dostoevsky PST +9 hours)
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To: USA Girl

Where's Janet Reno when you finally need her?


24 posted on 02/17/2006 6:12:41 AM PST by ExpatCanuck
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To: USA Girl


"Let them come!"

From the movie. "Kingdom of Heaven."


25 posted on 02/17/2006 6:13:58 AM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: BigDaddyTX
Not a bad idea. Better yet President Bush could make it a Federal Park with the stroke of his pen and forgo all the court battles.
26 posted on 02/17/2006 6:14:05 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: Condor51
Automatic (Class 3) Weapons are NOT Illegal (depending on NY state Law)

NYS state absolutely does bar automatic weapons (except with special licenses - and they're nearly impossible to get). Pistols are darned hard to get, too.

27 posted on 02/17/2006 6:14:26 AM PST by MortMan (Trains stop at train stations. On my desk is a workstation...)
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To: MortMan

Yes maybe, but this is a town 2 hours south east of Syracuse.

Zip Code : 13783.


28 posted on 02/17/2006 6:16:47 AM PST by schwing_wifey (The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone....Dostoevsky PST +9 hours)
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To: mr_hammer

Zip is 13783.


29 posted on 02/17/2006 6:18:15 AM PST by schwing_wifey (The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone....Dostoevsky PST +9 hours)
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To: Jeff Head

As long as they don't start calling themselves a "militia" they should be able to fly under the radar.


30 posted on 02/17/2006 6:22:02 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Condor51
Bottom line, if these people weren't Middle Eastern, this would be a non story.

They same could be said about Japanese people doing the same things during WWII. Why in the hell would we ever tolerate our enemy during time of war training on our own soil?!

31 posted on 02/17/2006 6:23:11 AM PST by pgyanke (Christ has a tolerance for sinners; liberals have a tolerance for sin.)
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To: BigDaddyTX

Funny but we also have a lot of Boy and Girl Scout (and City Summer Camps) up in that area both on the NY and on the PA sides.

Trying to take over this "Islamabad" would be like Waco all over again. But in this case, I'd bring the fixings for the smores.

You'd have to have lived there to understand...{sigh} I try to be open minded but my tolerance level has been sorely tested.


32 posted on 02/17/2006 6:24:01 AM PST by schwing_wifey (The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone....Dostoevsky PST +9 hours)
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To: MichaelP

I just send an email to Homeland Security pasting certain parts of this article and providing a link to it. Here is the link DHS if anyone wants to do same...

http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/contactus


33 posted on 02/17/2006 6:24:30 AM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: USA Girl

Perhaps we should get them all out of OUR country before it is to late.


34 posted on 02/17/2006 6:28:07 AM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: Dark Skies
I did also, but to the FBI...

Mike

35 posted on 02/17/2006 6:28:44 AM PST by MichaelP ("Opportunities multiply as they are seized." Sun Tzu)
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To: USA Girl; Travis McGee; Clovis_Skeptic; Jim Robinson; ladyinred

Thanks for posting this.

Some members of Free Republic have been on to this group going back 2001 and in particuliar 2002.

I added the key word alfuqra (al fuqra) to the key words on this thread.

Do a search on al fuqra to read some incredible stuff.


36 posted on 02/17/2006 6:29:02 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The NY Slimes has been committing treason and sedition for decades.)
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To: Pride in the USA

ping for a later read


37 posted on 02/17/2006 6:29:53 AM PST by Pride in the USA
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To: USA Girl
We live in a rural area and I can tell you we would not be sitting around whining about the situation! We would be protecting our Country and our families from this type of infiltration to ruin our Western way of life and take away our freedoms.

This is exactly the kind of fear the Islamic Fundamentalist want to create and it look like it's working in the great Democratic State of New York!
38 posted on 02/17/2006 6:30:47 AM PST by not2worry (What goes around comes around.)
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To: Jeff Head

Thanks for the ping.

It appears the al Fuqras are back in the news. In America they call themselves al Fuqra.

The American al Fuqras are for the most part Black Muslims who are recruited while they are in prison. After they leave prison, they often get on some welfare scam or work for some so called non profit or some type of governmental agency from a local to a state level.


39 posted on 02/17/2006 6:33:19 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The NY Slimes has been committing treason and sedition for decades.)
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To: MortMan
***NYS state absolutely does bar automatic weapons (except with special licenses - and they're nearly impossible to get).***

I didn't check my BATFE 'big book' on NY'S weapons law, but I note you say "Special License" required. Where they are legal 'the special license' is pretty much standard. And yes a lot of paperwork (red tape) is involved and money for the transfer tax(s). But for people who have the time, money and WANT that full auto, they'll do it.

The thing is I just don't like the tone of this article. If it was a bunch of white guys, they'd likely be called patriots. This thing is just bigotry IMO.

40 posted on 02/17/2006 6:33:56 AM PST by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: Robe

What town is this site in SC near, Robe?


41 posted on 02/17/2006 6:34:35 AM PST by USA Girl
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To: USA Girl

Bump for later investigation.


42 posted on 02/17/2006 6:38:43 AM PST by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: MileHi
Yep...sad isn't it?

Americans start playing paint ball in the woods and its a national threat...Islamic radicals establish fifty out and out training "compounds" all over the country, shooting real assault weapons, openly speaking of violence against non-Musilims...and its somehow a political hot potatoe and apparently no big deal.

If so, that's pure, unadulterated Bravo Sierra. Perhaps something will be done. I hope so.

43 posted on 02/17/2006 6:43:41 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: pgyanke
***They same could be said about Japanese people doing the same things during WWII. Why in the hell would we ever tolerate our enemy during time of war training on our own soil?!***

We know these particular people are our enemy, how?

BTW, I'm a tad confused about your Japanese reference. Are you saying-suggesting all Muslims should be rounded up and put in camps?

44 posted on 02/17/2006 6:44:01 AM PST by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: schwing_wifey

It's just over the border from NE Pennsylvania. I grew up in NE PA. This is a pretty rural area. I can't believe these folks aren't blowing up tree stumps or having slumber parties. Sounds to me like there's trouble brewing there. The supreme court doesn't honor my private property rights, why should we respect Achmed's. I say take the place, disband whatevers going on, deport them to wherever. It's time to take this country back. I know this is very non-pc, but if what's going on up there, is what it sounds like, something must be done. This is not a job for the local cops. These types of situations need to be looked at very closely. Wimping out or getting lawyered up is not the answer anymore. For our kids sake, potential training camps of the enemy in our backyard cannot be tolerated.


45 posted on 02/17/2006 6:44:15 AM PST by bantam
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To: Condor51

Condor said: "The thing is I just don't like the tone of this article. If it was a bunch of white guys, they'd likely be called patriots. This thing is just bigotry IMO."

WorldNetDaily.com founder and editor-in-chief, Joseph Farah, is an Arab-American himself. He looks Middle Eastern.

So any charge of bigotry by WND is unfounded.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/662295/posts


46 posted on 02/17/2006 6:44:46 AM PST by USA Girl
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To: Grampa Dave

Well, these camps, with the ideology they spout openly...should be looked into with a fine tooth comb...and if there is any support, guidance, control or contact with any known terror organizations of any type...they should be closed down forthwith.


47 posted on 02/17/2006 6:45:48 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: bantam

As I said earlier... if you know the area, its hard to be tolerant. These groups come in and set up their own laws and threaten and intimidate anyone who stands up to them.

If it wasn't for the fact everyone has shotguns and deer rifles, things might even be worse.

(Did you live off of 81 somewhere?)


48 posted on 02/17/2006 6:49:38 AM PST by schwing_wifey (The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone....Dostoevsky PST +9 hours)
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To: Jeff Head; Tijeras_Slim; elkfersupper; Travis McGee

IRA used to use NM as a "training" site......I remember that one such site discovered was just a short distance from Slims AO !

Won't even guess as to the MS13 sorts in the Chilili Land Grant like "jungle" over there.....


49 posted on 02/17/2006 6:49:52 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: USA Girl
***Joseph Farah, is an Arab-American... So any charge of bigotry by WND is unfounded.***

You're right I forgot about Farah. So I'll revise the Bigotry part --

This is Area 51, Space Aliens kidnapped by dog and turned it into my cousin, paranoid conspiracy drivel.
There, how's that.
50 posted on 02/17/2006 6:53:53 AM PST by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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