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To: Hannah Senesh
Quite frankly, this whole Serb/Bosnia/Croat thing confuses the heck out of me. They all point fingers at each other and say that they are murderers, Jew-haters, and war mongers.

The Serb supporters at FR make non stop posts about the Terrorist Moslems in Bosnia and the destruction of Serbian Churches by the Moslems, and the Bosnians regard the Serbs as Nazi supporting animals who slaughtered the Jews with glee.

Very confusing

9 posted on 02/17/2006 12:14:51 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

I was totally confused back during the bombing, but I didn't understand the Religion of Piece® as well then as I do now.


17 posted on 02/17/2006 12:23:35 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (Enemy Idealogies: Pacifism, Liberalism, and Feminism, Islamic Supremacism)
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To: Nachum
They all point fingers at each other and say that they are murderers, Jew-haters, and war mongers.

And for the most part, they are all correct.

18 posted on 02/17/2006 12:26:34 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Nachum

I don't declare support for either balkan faction directly. But maybe I can clarify a bit with some history.

Fact : Serbian churches are being torched in Kosovo. Or have been, very recently, since we bombed Serbia, and allowed Albanians to set up their de-facto state.

Fact : During WWII, there were serious collaborators on all sides. More notorious ones were Muslim - there was a Nazi SS muslim brigade and Croatian Ustashe, and some Serbian 5th column elements.

What the bosnians think of as 'Nazi supporting animals' were Chetniks, a Royalist/Loyalist faction, which fought for restoration of the king/monarchy against the communist partisans (led by communists, encompassing Croats, Serbs and Muslims) and the Nazis. They were neither nazi supporting, nor animals. At least no more so than the rest. It's just that Bosnian history books don't agree with the ones you'd read in the US, for example.

Since WWII everyone had their grievances, and those were ruthlessly supressed by the communist regime. When the communism collapsed, all the nationalistic elements came to power by stirring old grievances. And then everyone made new ones.

The reality at this time (important, because we live in present day as opposed to some people who live in the past) is that the Bosnian muslims that existed there in the 80s and 90s (relatively secular, normal , european people) got very much radicalized after the Bosnian war. Turning to Saudis for help since there was noone else does that. Also most of the intelligencia on all sides, Croatian, Serbian, and Muslim, left Bosnia. What is left now is only a shadow of the former society, and, again, a fertile ground for extremist points of view.

While everyone and noone was to blame for what happened in the past (I'm chalking it up to post-cold war geopolitics), the truth is that Bosnia *today* is bordering on a nightmarish terrorist scenario. All caucasian, ethnic Serbs forcibly converted during 800 years of Ottoman rule, that are virtually indistinguishable from other europeans, are being indoctrinated in Saudi founded/funded mosques. Do the math.


19 posted on 02/17/2006 12:29:24 PM PST by farlander
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To: Nachum
Bosnians formed two divisions of SS for Hitler in Bosnia in WWII.

Serbs under General Milhailovic saved over 500 American and British flyers from the Nazi Croatians after the Allies planes were shot down by nazi forces who occupied Serbia.

The mufti of Jerusalem ( Afafats' uncle) was a great supporter of hitler. He formed those muslim SS divisions.

Croatia supported hitler as well and also provided SS troops.

NOT just soldiers, Pal... but SS!!

28 posted on 02/17/2006 2:42:55 PM PST by Lion in Winter (The older I get the more I want to see ISLAM EXPOSED AS THE SHAM it is...)
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To: Nachum
"... and the Bosnians regard the Serbs as Nazi supporting animals who slaughtered the Jews with glee.

Actually, that would be the Croatians. Ustache, to be exact.

42 posted on 02/17/2006 3:27:28 PM PST by Serb5150
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To: Nachum

...well said in your comment #9. Here are a few links.

There were only about 1,700 Jews in Serbia and Montenegro--only
~ 0.02% of the total population of 10,552,000 in 2002 (Sergio DellaPergola, "World Jewish Population 2002", American Jewish Year Book, 102, New York, 2002. The Department for Jewish Zionist Education web site).
http://www.jafi.org.il/education/100/concepts/demography/demtables.html

http://www.tau.ac.il/Anti-Semitism/database.htm
Search For: "serbia" (keyword without the quotes)
[Be sure to read the abstract of work by Moshe Gammer, "The Jews Are Crucifying Jesus Again." ...appears to have been a report from a study of Serb antisemitic religious identity media.]

Virtual Jewish History Tour - Serbia and Montenegro
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/serbia.html

Ljubica Stefan, Anti-Semitism In Serbia During The World War II
http://www.hic.hr/books/seeurope/014e-stefan.htm

The Coordination Forum for Countering Antisemitism
http://www.antisemitism.org.il/frontend/english/index.hTm

Recent events:

Serbia – A Neo-Nazi Convention in Novi Sad
http://www.antisemitism.org.il/frontend/english/viewarticle.asp?id=14850&itemtype=1

Serbia – Antisemitic Graffiti on the Wall of a Cemetery
http://www.antisemitism.org.il/frontend/english/viewarticle.asp?id=13760&itemtype=1

Serbia – Antisemitic Graffiti in the Town of Negotin
http://www.antisemitism.org.il/frontend/english/viewarticle.asp?id=13653&itemtype=1

Serbia – Antisemitic Leaflets and Graffiti in Belgrade
http://www.antisemitism.org.il/frontend/english/viewarticle.asp?id=13656&itemtype=1

Serbia – Publication of a List of Jews on a Neo-Nazi Internet Site
http://www.antisemitism.org.il/frontend/english/viewarticle.asp?id=13237&itemtype=1

Serbia – A Threatening Letter Sent to the Jewish Community in Belgrade
http://www.antisemitism.org.il/frontend/english/viewarticle.asp?id=7605&itemtype=1

Serbia – Antisemitic Letter to a Local Journalist in Belgrade
http://www.antisemitism.org.il/frontend/english/viewarticle.asp?id=5838&itemtype=1

Serbia – A Threatening Letter Sent to the Jewish Community in Belgrade
http://www.antisemitism.org.il/frontend/english/viewarticle.asp?id=3407&itemtype=1

Serbia – Antisemitic Accusations on State Television in Belgrade
http://www.antisemitism.org.il/frontend/english/viewarticle.asp?id=622&itemtype=1


88 posted on 02/19/2006 6:06:11 AM PST by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: Nachum
this whole Serb/Bosnia/Croat thing confuses the heck out of me.

Serbs = Orthodox Christian, resisted the Nazis during WW2. Liberals have turned against them.

Croatians = Roman Catholic, some supported the Nazis during WW2. Croatia today is strongly pro-Israel.

Bosnia = Muslims, supported the Nazis during WW2, are still Nazis today, liberals love them, Bill Clinton went to war with Serbia for them.

98 posted on 02/19/2006 7:23:16 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 104-105)
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