Able Danger Hearings Part III

The Strata-Sphere ^ | 2/17/2006 | AJ Strata

[vadkins]

25th Item: Holy Cow! Weldon has a signed affidavit from a witness that talked to one of Cambone’s staff recently and who said Cambone’s group was going to ‘kill this story’ and Shaffer had no credibility. The name is Butch Willard This is right after Cambone claimed no one was not trying to ‘bring the information forward’. If Weldon is right, Cambone just perjured himself and is in hot water now. The witness is an ex intelligence officer (woman). They moved all this to the closed session!

[vadkins]

Able Danger absolute must, must read!

[Supernatural]

They keep moving all the good stuff to a "closed session".

[Stellar Dendrite]

ping

[STARWISE]

Ding!

[ovrtaxt]

DOMESTIC TERRORISM ALERT. Please let me know by freepmail if you want to be put on or taken off this list. Thanks.

Must read!! vadkins comes through with a fresh development.

[auboy]

If Weldon is right, Cambone just perjured himself and is in hot water now.

… boiling hot water.

[Battle Axe]

ping

[Cicero]

26th Item: Weldon confirms that the reason Able Danger LIWA was shutdown was the fact that the parallel China study would embarrass some high level people in the country. More importantly, Weldon clearly states ‘The Army” was told to shutdown LIWA-Orion. No officer in the Army can do that. The order came from the Pentagon, or possibly another Federal area. This is also huge. Unfortunately, before Cambone was forced to respond Weldon went off on the Yemen tip.

This item also seems worth reporting here. The assumption has always been that clinton killed these intelligence efforts to avoid being caught out in his treasonous activities with China.

[ovrtaxt]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Cambone

[auboy]

Thanks for the link.

[traderrob6]

This thing just keeps slowly but steadily growing.

[Calpernia]

Thank you.

[Peach]

Bump for later read tomorrow. Thanks for staying on top of this everyone.

[Just mythoughts]

bttt

[auboy]

I hope the snowball is just getting started. Roll, baby, roll.

[P-40]

I wonder what it would take for C-SPAN to take notice of this...

[Eagles6]

save

[Just mythoughts]

Probably the same thing that would interest NYtimes or Wahpost story.

[Spunky]

"Weldon has a signed affidavit from a witness that talked to one of Cambone’s staff recently and who said Cambone’s group was going to ‘kill this story’ and Shaffer had no credibility. The name is Butch Willard.'

I was listening to the hearings when Weldon was really letting Cambone have it with all this when the Chairman interupted and said "Lets continue this line of questioning in closed session."

[BARLF]

The investigation centered around a plot to discredit former Ambassador Joseph Wilson who disputed claims made by President Bush in his 2003 State of the Union Address that Iraq tried to purchase uranium from Niger, a country in northwestern Africa.

That is not what President Bush said. I wish people could get his statement correct.

[PGalt]

BTTT!

[P-40]

That is not what President Bush said. I wish people could get his statement correct.


The error is intentional, I am sure.

[americaprd]

Thanks for the ping. Cambone seems to be a recurring name:

From Weldon's September 17, 2005 press conference:

And furthermore, what Tony Shaffer will tell you in the hallway outside is that he personally briefed General Shelton on Able Danger, and in a briefing in the first quarter of 2001, and he will name the people that were in the room. He was giving a briefing on another topic, remember the name of that?

STAFF: (OFF-MIKE)

WELDON: Door Hop Galley (ph) which is another classified program.

In the course of that briefing -- and there was a Navy admiral in the room, Admiral Wilson, in charge of DIA, and Richard Schiefren (ph) was in the room. Richard Schiefren (ph) was an attorney at DOD.

In the course of that discussion, Richard Schiefren (ph) discussed Able Danger. I did not know that up until I watched the Heritage Foundation speech that I gave in 2002, where I document the meeting, in the briefing that was done for General Shelton. When I asked Tony Shaffer this morning about that, he said, "Yes, I briefed General Shelton. I was also involved in a Door Hop Galley (ph) brief, where Steve Cambone" -- he was not in the position he's in today. He was a special adviser to Don Rumsfeld."

And later

What materials did Richard Schiefren (ph) discuss in a briefing that was held with Colonel Shaffer, Steve Cambone and Admiral Wilson in the Door Hop Galley (ph) briefing in the winter of '01? What was the Able Danger material discussed in that meeting?

And finally, and most importantly, why did the 9/11 Commission, charged with the responsibility by the Congress with my support, choose to totally ignore the work of Able Danger? And why did they not pursue the people that I've pursued over the last 35, 40 days that would have provided them the same information that I've provided?

And later...

WELDON: And I can tell you I met with Steve Cambone right after the story broke in the New York Times. And, as you all know, I did a floor speech a month before that. So this wasn't something I did for the media.

The New York Times did not pick up on this story until a trade publication called Defense Security News published it. And then the New York Times picked it up. That was a month after I gave the floor speech in late June of this year.

When Steve Cambone came in to meet with me, he said, "Congressman, you know more about this program than I do."

I brought Tony Shaffer in to meet with Steve Cambone, with the understanding his career would not be ruined. In the 19 years I've been in this city, I have seen people's careers ruined. I saw it with Notra Trulock, I saw it with Jay Stewart (ph), I saw it with Dr. Gordon Ehlers, I saw it with Mike Maluf (ph), I saw it with Jack Daly (ph).

I've seen it time and again.

My concern was that these military people, who wanted to simply tell the truth, would not have their careers ruined.

Steve Cambone never mentioned to me that Able Danger was ever discussed in a meeting on Door Hop Galley (ph). Now, maybe he didn't remember that. That's understandable. And I'm not faulting him for that.

But in that meeting with Richard Schiefren (ph) and Admiral Wilson, as you can ask Tony Shaffer outside, Able Danger was discussed. It was not the purpose of the meeting, but it was discussed."

and later...

"And my understanding is -- correct me if I'm wrong -- that Richard Schiefren (ph) was the individual who ordered the destruction -- or the stoppage of the LIWA. Is that correct?

Richard Schiefren (ph), the same lawyer who was in the briefing with Steve Cambone in the winter of '01, was the lawyer who caused the data mining at LIWA to stop."

Link: http://floppingaces.blogspot.com/2005/09/gorelick-wall-sandy-berger-update.html

[eeevil conservative]

just curious...

I didn't know that Cambone was under oath....

what did I miss?

[auboy]

I don't know if he was under oath, or not under oath in the hearings. Does the Under-Secretary of Defense for Intelligence pledge an oath? Is he ( she) sworn in? If so, what is the oath? To protect the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic?

I'm boiling hot water just in case. :-)

[rodguy911]

Thanks Starwise checkig it out now.

[rodguy911]

Good point EC, I think Weldon made a point of it Wed. if memory serves me, that even though no one was sworn in they still were under oath,at least that's what I recall.

[americaprd]

There was some discussion about this during the hearing. They never actually took the pledge (the reason was not clear to me). Weldon said something to the effect that, you know you're all under oath correct? And I think Cambone may have said he had an oath to the office he was sworn to uphold (not the truth!)

[rodguy911]

That's about what I recall as well.

[malia]

keeping bumped

[Baynative]

bttt - I missed today because of chores... Add me to your list

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[vadkins]

Watch the Flopping Aces blog. Curt there writes that he's transcribing the entire Able Danger hearing.

[taxesareforever]

Yeah. I doubt we will ever get the truth, as we have been hearing it, published. It will be filed under silence.

[vadkins]

To amend my post directly above, Flopping Aces has a good portion of the Able Danger hearing transcipt done. The post is here.

[auboy]

Bump!

[Rudder]

Butch Willard is a strange name for a woman.

[BigSkyFreeper]

They keep moving all the good stuff to a "closed session".

Closed sessions are reserved for classified information hearings.

[freeangel]

Are you sure "closed sessions" are not reserved for democrats when the truth is getting so close they don't want the press to know?

[Gritty]

Bttt

[BigSkyFreeper]

Are you sure "closed sessions" are not reserved for democrats when the truth is getting so close they don't want the press to know?

Could be.

[ThePythonicCow]

bump

[vadkins]

We all need to find more effective ways to push the Able Danger story- Here's a heart breaker, the mother of one of the our heroes killed on the USS Cole commented on one of my blog posts at The Able Danger Blog: Thank you for doing such a good job covering this issue. The information, including links, make your site my first stop most mornings. I wish more Americans were more concerned with this issue. The BIG picture keeps growing as more and more information is learned. I pray we eventually will learn the truth. Thank you, again. Mother of Patrick H. Roy killed in Aden, Yemen aboard USS COLE