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To: anymouse; Californiajones

I recall reading of this link on another thread in the Religion forum. They'll have a hard time proving European descent from artifacts when there is DNA evidence to support otherwise. My point is NOT to start a discussion about mormonism but it was part of the thread I found it on and I felt the comment at the bottom was useful in supporting the use of the link as the link didn't seem to have anything to do with the article.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-mormon16feb16,1,6504171.story?page=1&cset=true&ctrack=1&coll=la-headlines-california

DNA PROVES MORMON FAITH BASELESS -- NATIVE INDIANS HAVE NO JEWISH BLOOD -- DNA CAME FROM ASIA


24 posted on 02/19/2006 9:41:08 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
They'll have a hard time proving European descent from artifacts when there is DNA evidence to support otherwise.
That doesn't appear to make any sense, because the artifacts don't have DNA (presumably; I'd guess Og's skin cells probably flaked off while using the tools, but are unlikely to have been preserved).
Tangled strands of time
by G.A. Clark
Arizona Republic
Friday August 8, 1997

original, extinct link
...the work of the Paabo team is evaluated uncritically by Stringer and McKie in their article, essentially because it tends to support their biases and preconceptions about modern human origins. Other interpretations are possible. It should be noted first that molecular clock models are full of questionable assumptions. Leaving aside differences of opinion about the rate of base pair substitutions, how to calibrate a molecular clock, and whether or not mitochondrial DNA mutations are neutral, the fact that the Neanderthal sequence (and it should be kept in mind that there is - to date - only one) differs from those of modern humans does not resolve the question of whether or not moderns and Neanderthals were different species... A more convincing test of the implications of the Paabo data would be to sequence mitochondrial DNA from an unambiguously modern early European or better yet from alleged archaic and modem human fossils from the Israeli cave sites of Skhul and Qafzeh (supposedly modern) and Kebara and Tabun (supposedly Neanderthal). If the Israeli fossils all show differences with modern humans of the same order of magnitude of those between Neanderthal and moderns, that would be compelling evidence that all Upper Pleistocene hominids diverge from moderns by about the amount (evidence for continuity), and that the distinction between Neanderthals and moderns in the Levant at least is utterly without foundation... Those who would argue - like Stringer and Mickie - that Neanderthals became extinct without issue must show how it could have occurred without leaving traces of disjunction in the archaeological record and in the fossils themselves.

33 posted on 02/19/2006 11:14:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's a big planet. We're willing to share. They're not. Out they go.)
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To: metmom

What amazes me about this entire issue of migrations is that todays pc crowd insists on only one group or another having migrated to North America. As we should know, man in general is always curious. This fact would alert us to the distinct possibility of many groups arriving here during the past thousands of years. It is a distinct and probable. Oceans have been used for a long time, and most societies had some kind of boatcraft. But, Columbus is rightly credited, since his was the voyage which seemed to have staying power.


48 posted on 02/20/2006 12:51:31 AM PST by son of caesar
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