Making Islam illegal -- is it the West's only choice?

The Muzzies will realize they are truly free (and had been enslaved by islam) when they are freed from the chains of Islam.

Exactly right! They are bound by the greatest lie ever.

Hey Jan,
Here's some cannon fodder for those who are apprehensive when confronting islamic attacks on our Freedom of Speech:

Fitzgerald: Freedom of speech: a teaching moment
Jihad Watch Board Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald offers a cartoon controversy curriculum:

The cartoon controversy has created a teaching moment in American high schools and universities.
History teachers, civics teachers, government teachers, do the following:

Print out relevant sections from Milton's Areopagitica ("I cannot praise a fugitive and cloistered virtue" etc.), the trial of John Peter Zenger, the Virginia Remonstrances, and John Stuart Mill's "On Liberty."

Now print out the First Amendment of the Constitution (1791).

Now print out the French Declaration of the Rights of Man (1792).

Now print out the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Now print out the Muslim answer to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which is to say the "Cairo Declaration of Human Rights.”

Xerox enough copies for every member of every class you teach.

Collate, and collect. Staple.

Now distribute to classes.

Now begin the discussion of how Freedom of Speech developed, in opposition to both political and religious censorship.

Now devote all of your attention to helping the students spot the differences between the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and the Muslim version, the so-called Cairo Declaration of Human Rights.

See if they can spot the differences and can understand why those differences exist. Tell them a little something about the Shari'a. Explain to them that Muslims are not allowed to leave Islam on pain of death -- and that even in those Muslim countries whose law codes do not yet fully match the Shari'a ideal, complete economic collapse and social ostracism are the fate of any Muslim who dares to convert to another religion, or to openly express his lack of belief in Islam.
See if they can detect differences in the rights of women.

See if they can detect differences in the right of the individual to freedom of conscience.

See if they can detect differences in the guarantees offered to minorities.

See what the Cairo Declaration of Human Rights says about the equal treatment of minorities in every respect -- and about pluralism.

Where reference is made in the Cairo Declaration of Human Rights to the principles of Islam, or Islamic law (the Shari'a), do some research on your own and find out what the applicable principles of Islam are in the particular case and share them with your class.

Where you may not know enough, find out about the concept of the "dhimmi" and what the "dhimmi" -- that is, the non-Muslim in a Muslim-ruled society -- had to endure.

Find out which Muslim countries have laws forbidding mockery of non-Muslim religions and peoples. See if you can find examples of how Christians and Jews, Christianity and Judaism, are discussed in the Muslim press, radio, television (hint: go to www.memri.org for straightforward translations without any comments added).

This should be a wonderful way to spend a week or two of the term. You are trying to teach students about the heroic development of free speech in the Western world. You are also trying to teach them about the importance of other rights, as enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Stir and shake as you will.

Sweeten to taste.

Teach them that American constitutional law on limits to free speech are clear. Free speech can be limited only insofar as that speech is a "deliberate incitement to imminent lawless violence."

Who has been deliberately inciting imminent lawless violence in the world? The Danish imams have. The Saudi imams and the Saudi government has. The imams in Pakistan have. The government of Egypt and the government of Jordan have in the remarks of their own officials. The O.I.C. has. The government of Libya has. The Muslims who gathered and chanted and shouted and attacked embassies of what they saw as Christian, Infidel symbols, in a various countries, and killed helpless Christians in Nigeria and burned down churches in a half-dozen countries -- they were the ones inciting and being incited.

The Western world has to declare unambiguously that it will not tolerate attempts by Muslims to inflict their standards, their views of the universe, their careful refusal to allow others to examine, study, critically analyze, even make fun of if they so choose, any and all parts of all religions, including Islam. Those anodyne cartoons were nothing. It is clear that what will follow, if an inch is given now, is the attempt to suppress Infidel critical discussion of what is contained in Qur'an, Hadith, and Sira.

That's what is in the works. The world's Muslims do not wish any Infidel, anywhere, to discuss Islam critically. They want Infidels to exhibit the behavior dictated to them by Muslims. They want reverence. They want submission. They want, and will work to achieve, the suppression of the rights that took centuries to develop in the Western world, and that some, out of a craven and casual spirit of false accommodation, are willing to throw over.

This cannot be.

>>Pretty strong approach if you ask me.

"When you see American soldiers helping young children in Iraq, I bet it makes you mad that they aren't blowing them away instead."

Why yes, yes it does. We spent lots of taxpayer cash busting the place up and now we are spending more rebuilding the place we busted up in order to "win their hearts and minds". We never will, as Vietnam so thoroughly showed us. We should bust up Iraq, leave it busted up, and go bust up Iran and all the other terrorist states. Sounds like a plan. As I paraphrased General Sherman, war is about making the general populace so miserable that they give up and sue for peace.

--Boris

"BS. You were talking about murdering Muslims on American soil, even children, not collateral damage in war. I guess there is a an upside to having your posts deleted. You can now deny it and the proof has been (justifiably) removed."

I'll make you happy. Let's deport them all, then kill them. Will that make it more politically correct for you?

Does the notion that the Muslim taxi driver taking you to the airport might be a member of a terror cell who will one day shoot down your airliner disquiet you?

My estimate is that there are still 50-100 cells in this country. Say ten people each; that could be 1000 active cell members. A minimum of ten people know about each cell and actively support it. That is 10,000. A minimum of ten more know about and remain silent; that is 100,000.

Wanna go out and pick all those needles from the haystack?

We don't have time. My proposal is to deport all the "visitors" from those nations and then do a deep background check on the "naturalized citizens" who come from those countries. That is an enormous job in itself.

Bottom line: Islam is (as I said) a toxic culture. It is and has been at war with Western Civilization for centuries. We can lose if we don't wake up and fight. Right now we are facing a guy with brass knucks and a broken bottle and trying to teach him the Marquis of Queensbury Rules.

--Boris

And George W Bush is the most corrupted of the corrupted by Arab oil money and power.

Take your place back at the end of the line with that statement.

Please remember to vote the Gallows Party Line in 2006.

Give me a reason to vote "for" your party, as opposed to "against" another.

Mad mo' was both a liar and demon/satan possessed, IMHO.

His seizures/delusions were remarkably similar to those displayed by the man whom Christ cast demons out of in the New Testament, as well as the fellow who beat a few wanna-be apostles senseless, stripped them of their clothing, and sent them packing...

Regardless, being a deceiver/liar is an absolute classic keystone indicator of possession. alla/satan also speaks elliptically/evasively, often avoiding, obscuring or obfuscating the point or the question.

One of the sura's in the qur'an speaks about allah having his own plans that he does not divulge to men, and goes on to say that he practices deception upon men.

If there is any single damning passage in all the qur'ap in the qur'an - one which clearly and unequivocally identifies the fact that:
1)alla is not G_d,

2)alla is not just the arabic name/word for "G_d, and

3) alla is in the highest likelihood {oh, saaaay 99.999%}, in fact satan himself, then it is that passage!

That is my opening contribution of theological grist to our budding symposium.

A.A.C.

"The Final Crusade has commenced - squeezing the qur'ap out of the qur'an - one odious droplet of foul syrah at a time!"

Hi AAC,

Great post! You're completely right.

regards,

Hill of Tara

"What will Bush do next to kiss the ass of our enemies...put La Raza in charge of our southern border security"

goodness I hope not!