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So You Think You Are a Darwinian?
The Royal Institute of Philosophy ^
| 21 Feb 2006
| David Stove
Posted on 02/20/2006 7:43:19 PM PST by Politically Correct
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Why not start another Evo-Crevo thread?
To: Politically Correct
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posted on
02/20/2006 7:50:06 PM PST
by
Mojave
To: Politically Correct
I'm in, I'm in! Before 1,000! Wow! Look ma!
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02/20/2006 7:53:30 PM PST
by
Revolting cat!
("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
To: Politically Correct
Maybe it's just me, but the first paragraph alone was just dripping with arrogance.
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posted on
02/20/2006 7:54:43 PM PST
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frankiep
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To: Politically Correct
Each one of these threads that gets started makes me sympathize more and more with Elvis shooting his TVs.
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posted on
02/20/2006 7:58:52 PM PST
by
RichInOC
("Elvis is everywhere, Elvis is everything, Elvis is everybody, Elvis is still the King!"--Mojo Nixon)
To: frankiep
Maybe it's just me, but the first paragraph alone was just dripping with arrogance. Arrogance in the defence of truth is no vice........no,no I don't think that's how the quote goes is it?
To: Politically Correct
Does anyone really think themselves "Darwinists"? It seems that mostly creationists use that term.
As for me, I was intrigued by the book "Calculating God", by a Canadian Sci Fi author named Sawyer. Sort of an ID/Evolution mix..
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posted on
02/20/2006 8:03:52 PM PST
by
Paradox
(Liberalism is Narcissism.)
To: Politically Correct
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posted on
02/20/2006 8:04:45 PM PST
by
HuntsvilleTxVeteran
(“Don't approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the rear, or a Fool from any side.”)
To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
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posted on
02/20/2006 8:06:56 PM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
To: Politically Correct
Great fun. And it's a criticism of Darwinism that has nothing whatsoever to do with religion or creationism or intelligent design.
The logic is rigorous and irrefutable, although no doubt the Darwinists will soon pile in with their boilerplate refutations. I'm going to bed, but I enjoyed this article very much, arrogance and all.
This one is definitely worth a read.
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posted on
02/20/2006 8:10:44 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: Politically Correct
And a good way to do it. Bump
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posted on
02/20/2006 8:13:00 PM PST
by
Tribune7
To: Cicero
The logic is rigorous and irrefutable, although no doubt the Darwinists will soon pile in with their boilerplate refutations. 1+1=2. Pure boilerplate.
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posted on
02/20/2006 8:13:19 PM PST
by
freedumb2003
(American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
To: js1138; b_sharp
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02/20/2006 8:13:45 PM PST
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Tribune7
To: Politically Correct
I vote Darwin.
If the author has a friend, that person needs to stop him from making such an ass of himself by writing essays like this.
To: Politically Correct
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02/20/2006 8:28:26 PM PST
by
wallcrawlr
(http://www.bionicear.com)
To: Tribune7
I vote Darwin. The author is a great builder of straw men.
The same kind of reasoning makes cannibals of Christians And haters of parents and family. It's easy to write stuff like this.
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posted on
02/20/2006 8:34:53 PM PST
by
js1138
(Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
To: Politically Correct
My biggest concern with the article is that there is scarcely any reference to Darwin in it. Most of the references are to sociobologists and various modern scientific thinkers. Darwin's propositions seem to be limited to observing that organisms seek to reproduce as much as possible (he overstates the case, but organisms do seek to reproduce), and his statement that unfavorable genetic developments are RIGIDLY destroyed. Obviously that's not true.
Darwin's explanations of things were very mechanistic, to be sure. He and others discounted things like animal emotion and animal intelligence, reducing animals almost to mere automata.
This was far too simplistic, but the overall concept of increase of the more fit for survival is not very controversial (is it?).
I wouldn't tar Darwin with the more political expostulations of some of the modern scientists.
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posted on
02/20/2006 8:47:16 PM PST
by
Vicomte13
(La Reine est gracieuse, mais elle n'est pas gratuit.)
To: js1138
What is troublesome is not the ease of writing but the ease some find in believing such tripe. I'm not sure why it happens but it seems anti-evolutionists are far more willing to use and believe 'appeals to emotion' than anything rational.
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02/21/2006 10:46:51 AM PST
by
b_sharp
(Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
To: b_sharp
Faith is an appeal to emotion rather than to rationality, as is the threat of eternal consequenses. How is it rational to base truth on bribes and threats? Sounds more like the arguments of men seeking power than the word of God.
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posted on
02/21/2006 10:50:33 AM PST
by
js1138
(Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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