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So You Think You Are a Darwinian?
The Royal Institute of Philosophy ^ | 21 Feb 2006 | David Stove

Posted on 02/20/2006 7:43:19 PM PST by Politically Correct

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Why not start another Evo-Crevo thread?
1 posted on 02/20/2006 7:43:22 PM PST by Politically Correct
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2 posted on 02/20/2006 7:50:06 PM PST by Mojave
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I'm in, I'm in! Before 1,000! Wow! Look ma!


3 posted on 02/20/2006 7:53:30 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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Maybe it's just me, but the first paragraph alone was just dripping with arrogance.


4 posted on 02/20/2006 7:54:43 PM PST by frankiep
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Each one of these threads that gets started makes me sympathize more and more with Elvis shooting his TVs.


6 posted on 02/20/2006 7:58:52 PM PST by RichInOC ("Elvis is everywhere, Elvis is everything, Elvis is everybody, Elvis is still the King!"--Mojo Nixon)
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Maybe it's just me, but the first paragraph alone was just dripping with arrogance.

Arrogance in the defence of truth is no vice........no,no I don't think that's how the quote goes is it?

7 posted on 02/20/2006 8:00:03 PM PST by Politically Correct
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Does anyone really think themselves "Darwinists"? It seems that mostly creationists use that term.

As for me, I was intrigued by the book "Calculating God", by a Canadian Sci Fi author named Sawyer. Sort of an ID/Evolution mix..

8 posted on 02/20/2006 8:03:52 PM PST by Paradox (Liberalism is Narcissism.)
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http://www.blackmask.com/Detailed/Liberal_Arts/Charles_Darwin/The_Origin_of_Species_by_means_of_Natural_Selection_752.html


Above URL has free book in several formats.


9 posted on 02/20/2006 8:04:45 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (“Don't approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the rear, or a Fool from any side.”)
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In on the first page!!!!


10 posted on 02/20/2006 8:06:56 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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Great fun. And it's a criticism of Darwinism that has nothing whatsoever to do with religion or creationism or intelligent design.

The logic is rigorous and irrefutable, although no doubt the Darwinists will soon pile in with their boilerplate refutations. I'm going to bed, but I enjoyed this article very much, arrogance and all.

This one is definitely worth a read.


11 posted on 02/20/2006 8:10:44 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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And a good way to do it. Bump


12 posted on 02/20/2006 8:13:00 PM PST by Tribune7
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The logic is rigorous and irrefutable, although no doubt the Darwinists will soon pile in with their boilerplate refutations.

1+1=2. Pure boilerplate.

13 posted on 02/20/2006 8:13:19 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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ping


14 posted on 02/20/2006 8:13:45 PM PST by Tribune7
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I vote Darwin.

If the author has a friend, that person needs to stop him from making such an ass of himself by writing essays like this.


15 posted on 02/20/2006 8:23:57 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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16 posted on 02/20/2006 8:28:26 PM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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I vote Darwin. The author is a great builder of straw men.

The same kind of reasoning makes cannibals of Christians And haters of parents and family. It's easy to write stuff like this.
17 posted on 02/20/2006 8:34:53 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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My biggest concern with the article is that there is scarcely any reference to Darwin in it. Most of the references are to sociobologists and various modern scientific thinkers. Darwin's propositions seem to be limited to observing that organisms seek to reproduce as much as possible (he overstates the case, but organisms do seek to reproduce), and his statement that unfavorable genetic developments are RIGIDLY destroyed. Obviously that's not true.

Darwin's explanations of things were very mechanistic, to be sure. He and others discounted things like animal emotion and animal intelligence, reducing animals almost to mere automata.

This was far too simplistic, but the overall concept of increase of the more fit for survival is not very controversial (is it?).

I wouldn't tar Darwin with the more political expostulations of some of the modern scientists.


18 posted on 02/20/2006 8:47:16 PM PST by Vicomte13 (La Reine est gracieuse, mais elle n'est pas gratuit.)
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What is troublesome is not the ease of writing but the ease some find in believing such tripe. I'm not sure why it happens but it seems anti-evolutionists are far more willing to use and believe 'appeals to emotion' than anything rational.
19 posted on 02/21/2006 10:46:51 AM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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Faith is an appeal to emotion rather than to rationality, as is the threat of eternal consequenses. How is it rational to base truth on bribes and threats? Sounds more like the arguments of men seeking power than the word of God.


20 posted on 02/21/2006 10:50:33 AM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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