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Millions Not Joining Medicare Drug Plan
Washington Post ^ | Ceci Connolly

Posted on 02/21/2006 7:02:35 AM PST by AZRepublican

A $400 million campaign by the Bush administration to enroll low-income seniors in prescription drug coverage that would cost them just a few dollars per prescription has signed up 1.4 million people, a fraction of the 8 million eligible for the new coverage.

At this rate, by some calculations, the government is on track to spend about $250 for each person it enrolls, and even then it would have only 2 million poor senior citizens taking advantage of what is perhaps the most generous government benefit available today.

"It's a very, very good benefit," said Deane Beebe, whose organization, the Medicare Rights Center, has been critical of many aspects of the new Medicare drug program, called Part D. "It's probably the best thing about Medicare Part D, except that most people don't know about it or don't know how to apply for it or are not comfortable or capable of applying."

When Congress enacted the first-ever drug plan for Medicare's 42 million beneficiaries, it created a tiered system in which the poorest and sickest seniors pay the least. About 6 million elderly and disabled people were switched from state Medicaid programs to virtually free Medicare coverage. Retirees at the high end of the income scale have the option of purchasing a plan with standard out-of-pocket costs such as monthly premiums, deductibles and co-payments.

The group sandwiched in between -- those earning too much for Medicaid but less than $19,000 -- qualify for coverage with no premiums, no deductibles and co-payments of less than $5. Congress gave the Social Security Administration $500 million primarily to identify and enroll them.

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KEYWORDS: gop; medicare; medicaredrugplan; prescriptiondrugs; seniors; spending; spendinglikerats; votebuying; wastefulspending
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To: RWE

I believe this is the biggest mistake Pres. Bush has made.
The second biggest was letting the swimmer write the education bill.


21 posted on 02/21/2006 7:39:02 AM PST by taillightchaser
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To: Realism

I don't believe that for a second. With the advertising blitz on TV, Radio, and Print media, plus several retailers and pharmesuitical companies also joining in the quest to educate these folks - I will chalk it up to just a few reasons:

1. Don't care/ are not interested - many of these are folks who just hate change. They woldn't sign up if it meant totally free medications because it would require change, and maybe some paperwork.

2. Folks who are too hard-headed. They have been told about it, and just don't get off their lazy butts to do something about it.

3. There are even a few who intentionally don't sign up because they feel the Government has no obligation to pay for their medications - as they can afford them anyway.

I truly believe that the actual number that can HONESTLY say they don't know about it is less than 3% of those eligible. The number that can honestly claim to "know how to apply" might number up to 5% (that would be those who don't get to Wal-Mart or any other public place, and don't pay any attention whatsoever to any media sources at all).


22 posted on 02/21/2006 7:39:06 AM PST by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan and a Cancer on Society)
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To: Realism

I don't believe that for a second. With the advertising blitz on TV, Radio, and Print media, plus several retailers and pharmesuitical companies also joining in the quest to educate these folks - I will chalk it up to just a few reasons:

1. Don't care/ are not interested - many of these are folks who just hate change. They woldn't sign up if it meant totally free medications because it would require change, and maybe some paperwork.

2. Folks who are too hard-headed. They have been told about it, and just don't get off their lazy butts to do something about it.

3. There are even a few who intentionally don't sign up because they feel the Government has no obligation to pay for their medications - as they can afford them anyway.

I truly believe that the actual number that can HONESTLY say they don't know about it is less than 3% of those eligible. The number that can honestly claim to "know how to apply" might number up to 5% (that would be those who don't get to Wal-Mart or any other public place, and don't pay any attention whatsoever to any media sources at all).


23 posted on 02/21/2006 7:39:06 AM PST by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan and a Cancer on Society)
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To: Realism
Sounds normal, I'm with them.

If you pay for all your healthcare out of pocket, or receive it as a benefit from where you work, then I'd say you have a point in wanting transparent and efficient service.

If however, you're getting this service from the government, I would think the least you could do is go along with the program.

24 posted on 02/21/2006 7:45:27 AM PST by Lou L
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To: LibLieSlayer

i agree!!!!!!!!!


25 posted on 02/21/2006 7:55:18 AM PST by Omglol
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To: Lou L
If however, you're getting this service from the government, I would think the least you could do is go along with the program.

I'll try and remember that. I'm far too young for such a program. I'm betting that by time I'm there we'll have a national health-care system in place.

26 posted on 02/21/2006 7:56:55 AM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: AZRepublican

Bump for later.


28 posted on 02/21/2006 8:01:03 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: AZRepublican

I take 10mg of Toprol daily, I have Medicare Part A and Part B plus I am covered by my wife's health plan.

The annual information letter from the plan advised us that I should not sign up as it would save me no money over the 50% discount already in the plan.

There may be many like us.


29 posted on 02/21/2006 8:15:32 AM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: AZRepublican
This is a horrible scam, perpetrated upon poor old people by the drug companies in collusion with an out of control government who cares not a wit about its citizens.

I checked the AARP site and checked 4 medications and the estimated cost was in excess of $3,068 per year.

That's got to be near the retail cost!

Thank God I can get them for $336 because of VA eligability.

30 posted on 02/21/2006 8:21:36 AM PST by FixitGuy
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To: Old Professer
There may be many like us.

There are many with Medicare supplement plans for whom Part D is not the right choice. If that's your situation, good for you.

31 posted on 02/21/2006 8:32:23 AM PST by Lou L
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To: NRA1995

More aptly, you should state you can lead a horse to the ocean. That's how deep the water supply would need to be.

I hope this plan falls flat on it's insidious face.


32 posted on 02/21/2006 8:32:30 AM PST by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: AZRepublican
"The group sandwiched in between -- those earning too much for Medicaid but less than $19,000 -- qualify for coverage with no premiums, no deductibles and co-payments of less than $5."

Nothing like a newspaper printing a flat out lie.

It varies in every state regarding the amount you can earn without paying premiums.

The states also get to set the price of the premiums you pay.
Michigan (with its Communist Governor) is likely the worst state in taxing the seniors for this crap plan.
33 posted on 02/21/2006 9:06:05 AM PST by Beagle8U (An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
Hey typing isn't eberything.

Great idea. I keep telling my mom that IMHO, OOP pharm insurance that supports generic purchases but not the "bob" generics is useless. Generics are already reasonable. Its the big ticket new drugs that cost.

She buys a plan for an extra 60 dollars a month for generics when approx. 100 will get her coverage on the big ticket items.

One months worth of Fosamax will be more than covered by the difference. She figures she is smarter by just not taking it.

Yeesh............

I simply do not drink enough.
34 posted on 02/21/2006 10:55:37 AM PST by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: Old Professer

"I take 10mg of Toprol daily, I have Medicare Part A and Part B plus I am covered by my wife's health plan.

The annual information letter from the plan advised us that I should not sign up as it would save me no money over the 50% discount already in the plan. "

I take a motherload of meds, 2 out of 11 are generic. I am as are you on parts A & B plus covered by my health plan as number 2. Got the same letter.

Try to look at it this way, if you live another 7 years or so, most of your drugs will be generic!


35 posted on 02/21/2006 11:01:05 AM PST by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: AZRepublican

The person who wrote this article needs to actually take a look at Medicare Part D before writing some of this tripe.

Another complicating factor is the lack of information from current providers and sources of medications. I made some inquiries for an elderly family member who currently receives medications through pharmaceutical companies' charitable programs. These companies were unsure how their programs would be affected. It's hard to run the numbers when you can't get any to work with.

It seems a lot of people here are "blaming the victims" for this nightmare government program.


36 posted on 02/21/2006 2:05:41 PM PST by djreece ("... Until He leads justice to victory." Matt. 12:20c)
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To: Realism
now we just need a few million more to advertise the giveaway. isn't that the DC answer to everything? "It's not a failure, it's just underfunded!"
37 posted on 02/21/2006 4:10:55 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (Muslims pray to Allah, Allah prays to Chuck Norris.)
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To: Watershed

No, it was not the seniors, for the most part, who were confused NOR why Schwarzenegger had to devote those millions, BUT THE INTERMEDIARY COMPUTER PROGRAM THAT WAS FAILING...it was not including people in the Plan even after enrolled and was spitting out preposterous denials at the cash register to Medicare enrolless advising them they owed "$3,500." or some such nonsense for a $13.00 generic refill and similar monstrosities.

What was occuring was that MEDICAID people were not receiving their MEDICAID priced refills and most of them really needed what they were taking uninterruptedly, and thus, the state had to intervene and "emergency fund" the Medicaid pharmacy costs until the Federal computer system was organized and corrected.

THE PLAN ITSELF CREATED THE PROBLEMS at the cash register for many enrollees, leaving them to go home wondering, like a lot of seniors are prone to do, "WHAT DID I DO WRONG" when, in fact, the PLAN AND THE COMPUTER SYSTEM was screwy.

Not nationwide, just in a few states that have the highest Medicaid enrolleess...California, New York, to name the two biggest problems.

And, the Plan itself has been confusing even IF the computer sytsem was workig well in that last two years, there was one "plan" for drug coverage under Medicare for some people, and that was replaced by this "new plan" January 1, which then dispensed or failed to dispense reasonably priced refills by thousands of dollars without explanation, or just refused to acknowledge people who were already enrolled correctly.

Thus, people already qualified for one plan in the last two years but now no longer do by the same income variables, combined with the huge computer problem in January, EVERYONE was confused and not because they weren't capable or able. EVEN PHARMACIES were being told to collect huge amounts of thousands of dollars for drugs that normally (even without the Plan) cost a mere few dollars.

But, it was the Medicaid numbers that required the emergency funding by some states, inorder to pay for two, three months refills for their enrollees while the federal plan (computer system) was/is being straightened out.


38 posted on 02/21/2006 4:17:44 PM PST by MillerCreek
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To: Lou L

No, this program is too complicated to be understood. It is as bad or worse than tax code.


39 posted on 02/22/2006 6:22:46 AM PST by A. Pole (Dzerzhinsky: There are no innocent people.There are only such who weren't examined in the proper way)
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To: HarleyLady27
Let me get this straight I AM PAYING for part of or most of your medication and your whinning about a little inconvenience. Well then put up (the money) or shut up!
40 posted on 02/22/2006 7:04:39 AM PST by mountn man (Tact is for people not witty enough to be sarcastic.)
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