Skip to comments.Driver Responsibility Tax Surprises Out of State Motorist
Posted on 02/21/2006 7:31:59 AM PST by getsoutalive
New laws allow some states to tax drivers annually -- even if they live in another state -- simply because they received a speeding ticket. One Connecticut motorist, who asked that his name not be used, discovered this after driving in October in Niagara Falls, New York. Despite being caught in what he considered a brazen speed trap -- the speed limit was 45 MPH where he was caught, but 55 MPH at the same location in the opposite direction -- he accepted the $155 fine for driving 72 MPH thinking by paying the matter would be settled.
Last week, however, the state of New York notified him that it now considers him an "at risk" driver and therefore he must either pay the state an annual $100 tax or a lump sum of $300.
(Excerpt) Read more at thenewspaper.com ...
ping for later
There just aren't enough middle fingers on a single human body to express what my feelings would be to them if I ever got a notice like that.
That's a law waiting for a test case.
It gives new meaning to the term *highway robbery*. Thank you NYS. And polititions can't figure out why people are leaving or not moving here. They're just shooting themselves in the foot with their outrageous legislation. I want out of here sooooo bad.
Agreed. The out of state aspect is outrageous.
Can't the CT driver tell NY to pound sand?
speed trap what a hoot! he was doing at least 75 in the 45. the cop gave him a break by writing the ticket under 75. they should send him another ticket lol.
Thanks for the heads up. I didn't know Michigan also had this "tax". I'm going to have to look this up.
We've got the same thing in Michigan. I got a ticket for not having my proof of insurance ($95 fine). Then I have to pay a "driver's responsibility fee" to the State of Michigan of $200 a year for two years. So my $95 ticket is actually $495! I suppose I'd rather the state get $400 from me this way then have them take $400 from me in more income tax. At least I won't drive without my proof of insurance again!
Just goes to show: FIGHT EVERY TICKET!
I think he should refuse to pay.If this "tax" isn't one that's also levied on residents of the State of New York,I can't see how a Federal court would allow the law to stand.
Taxation without representation?
What are you all griping about? It's only NON-VOTERS in other states who are getting robbed, err, taxed, and after all, it's only to enforce highway safety, for the chillens, and how could you claim that "speeding" laws are just revenue makers.
IMO,the fact that the speed limit was lower on one side of the road than the other doesn't necessarily mean it's a speed trap.It could be due to a curve in the road,a nearby hill,or off-ramp or on-ramp,etc,etc.
But as for the "fine" itself,it's clearly BS.
State government cost must be out of control. I suspect it's the defined benefit pension plans that were sweetened up in the late 1990's / early 2000's during the stock market bubble. Now these plans are underperforming and State's are looking for new sources of revenue anywhere they can, ethical or not, legal or not.
"...he must either pay the state an annual $100 tax or a lump sum of $300."
Brought to you by the state that spawned Upchuck Schumer and the Heinous Harridan, the two RATs that never met a tax they didn't like. Is anyone surprised?
That makes one not want to go back to NY
I would dare them to come across state lines to collect.
When Hitlery shows up wanting her money....lol
No it is not the same thing.
The same thing would be if an Ohio driver got a ticket in Michigan, then after paying said ticket received a notice at their home in Ohio from Michigan state, claiming they are an "at risk" driver in Michigan and have to pay an additional "driver's responsibility fee"
OMG, even Texas! I can't believe it!
Seems like it to me. How can NY tax somebody in Ct?
New York has been charging income tax to out-of-staters for years. Ask Rush.
Well, since Her Thighness can't bring jobs and tax revenues to upstate NY,
I guess they've got to take matters into their own hands!
Guess the cigarette tax money is slowly dissolving so they will have to find other ways to support their tax and spend policies.
I have a friend who had a snowmobile accident 3 years ago in MI. 3 years he had to pay this fee, whether he came back into the state or not.
"I would dare them to come across state lines to collect."
I doubt if they would. The thing is, if they ever catch you there again they'll probably demand payement then.
Though sold as affecting only "bad drivers" like those convicted of driving while drunk or on a suspended license, the extra fees kick in with just a few points on the driving record.
Michigan, New Jersey and Texas also impose this tax, and the idea is spreading.
With a 34-6 vote on Friday, the Virginia state Senate approved a "bad driver" tax championed by new governor Timothy M. Kaine (D) that is expected to net $67.2 million in the first year and a total of $401.4 million by 2010. The state House has not yet acted on the measure.
Guess it is time to move.....
Yes, I've heard Rush go off on that, and rightfully so, but this is for the sole purpose of getting a traffic ticket as you drive through another state!?!?
My apologies, I had not read the full article when I posted before. The slippery slope has become a steep hill.
Guess the cigarette tax money is slowly dissolving ... PING
Drivers make mistakes all the time. Any state that treats it's guests with outrageous ponzi revenue schemes is not worth visiting anyhow.
This has to be nipped in the bud at the USSC.
Wow.. a blue state figuring out how to "tax" folks without representation.... who would have thunk it? /sarcasm
I guess I was wrong about the 3 years, myself. In MI it's only 2. I'd not heard of this before last month.
I personally don't consider 8 points on your record "just a few" which is when the VA tax would kick in (if it gets thru the house).....with that said, I'm not saying I approve of the legislation, but that "just a few" comment is plain wrong.
I didn't pay it and 13 years later continue to renew every year in my home state.
Oh, I didn't read the bill. I didn't realize it didn't kick in until you had 8 points.
like those convicted of driving while drunk ...
I wonder when they will add - or smoking a cigarette?
If he lives in a different state, how can NY enforce this? I would ignore it.
Kind of like this - Ohio has a law that says vehicles must have a license plate on the front and back of the vehicle. Michigan only gives us one plate for the back. Several years ago I got pulled over in Ohio and was given a ticket for not having a plate on the front of my car. When I argued that I couldn't possibly have a second plate because Michigan didn't issue them, I was told "Too bad - we do"!
Please don't give them any more bright ideas........
Sounds to me like they're (well, in this case "we're") getting ready for all-the-time GPS tracking of all vehicles.
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