But, 1L, they are not lying. Most Mac users are reporting their experiences truthfully. It is YOUR unfounded assumption that we are lying.
You state later in this thread that you have owned Apple products in the past such as an Apple II and you now own an iPod... but do you own an OS X Mac? I doubt it. If my doubt is true, then you have very little experience with modern Macs on which to base your opinions.
I on the other hand, in addition to owning several OS X Macs, own several Windows machines running Windows from 98 through ME, 2000, XP, and XP Pro. I maintain the computers, IT security, and networks of about 35 small businesses, some of which use Macs and others that use Windows. I submit my experience on both systems is greater than yours.
Many Mac users have come from the Windows environment... and again have experience on both platforms. The same is usually not true of Windows users in general who tend to spout what they have heard from other as ignorant of Macs as themselves.
Dude, we (meaning YOU AND I) have had this discussion at least 4 times. Why you get defensive about the least little criticism of the Mac or of Apple, I will never know.
>>they are not lying<<
BS. I see Mac users all the time saying things like "I never have any trouble..." and then assert that PC users always have problems with malware. If you read Apple support forums, you will see there are many, many users with problems, some of which (e.g. kernel panics) are unheard of on PCs. You don't even know what or who I'm talking about, yet you assert I'm wrong. Incredible.
>>but do you own an OS X Mac<<
Nope. Too expensive and too slow. What? Apple products don't count if they don't run OSX? I was responding to the absolutely stupid claim (stupid because it was made without any information about me, and it was something the poster simply wanted to be true) that I was an Apple "hater." That's what I was responding to, and whether I own or have owned an OSX running product is irrelevent to that.
>> then you have very little experience with modern Macs on which to base your opinions.<<
I have used Macs extensively over the past 15 years. No, not as much as PCs running Windows and various flavors of *nix OS's, but I have used them nontheless. Please don't make ignorant comments.
>>own several Windows machines<<
This has always been amazing to me. I can not find a Mac so-called power user who doesn't own as many Windows machines as I do. Why is that if the Mac is the holy grail?
You say its because its your business to support computers and more clients use PCs than Macs, but why don't you figure out why that is. Its because for them, its more useful.
Then, you assert "I've never had a kernel panic (or whatever), so it isn't a big problem on the Mac", yet, you ignorantly claim that all PC users must by definition be hampered with malware intrusions (even though I'm not, and its very easy and FREE not to be).
>> Many Mac users have come from the Windows environment... and again have experience on both platforms.<<
I know as many people that have switched to the Windows platform from the Mac. You can't find school districts running Macs anymore. I do think these and other organizations can significantly improve their IT performance by getting off the Windows server products onto the open source products, as I have done. But even if someone or an organization chooses to go the Mac route, that's great. I fully support using the tool you want to do the job. The thing is: its only a tool, not something to get emotionally attached to. You can't seriously deny that Mac users aren't emotionally attached to their machines, and that is truly idiotic.
Please read through our past discussions and only respond with something new. If I've repeated something, please ignore it. I'm not interested in having this discussion with you every 6 months or so. It is amazing how you can troll every Mac thread and defend Apple against any criticism -- especially by me -- yet, you never show up on threads where I'm saying the iPod is the best music player on the market.