CowboyJay wrote: "When someone starts telling me this is a good idea in oppostion to the will of the people and congress, my BS-meter goes off. They are an islamic nation. Islam declared jihad on us. Islam is the state religion of Dubai.
Israel gets it. There is no peace with islam."
CowboyJay, sometimes it is hard to get to the facts when headlines shout out the direction someone wants our opinions to lean.
In this case, it might be worth taking a little time to research this before assuming that the President has suddenly flipped his lid.
Do you remember the post 9/11 reaction from some who would not hear of the US going after the terrorists and those nations who would support them? I do, vividly.
Today I do not believe that the President has made a sudden u-turn or changed directions on our national security because he has not, nor have his closest advisers.
This is a political storm only.
'America is at risk of losing control of its borders and compromising national security in an entirely preventable way. '
OOps I thought he was talking about the US/Mexican border!
BTTT
Don't get me wrong. I'm a big fan of almost everything the man's done in office. I don't understand the reasoning based on some personal principles.
1) Islam is not compatible with Judeo-Christian ethics, and vice-versa, due to Mohammed's call for violence against infidels. We subscribe to a different mythos and a different ethos. Conflict between our civilizations is inevitable.
2)The only way we can possibly peacefully co-exist within either a nation or society is the liberalization of either their beliefs and ethics or ours. I don't really care to adjust my ethics to suit them.
2) I am a conservative. Liberalization of my faith and our nation is what I seek to avoid (Judeo-Christian ethos, laws based upon Judeo-Christian ethos, and freedom to practice Christianity in every aspect of my life).
3) Liberalism has led to the eventual decline and/or demise of every nation that has embraced it
3) It is pragmatically acceptable for us to treat with them as allies, or operate bases upon their soil, if it is in our national interest (or exchange war materiel and intelligence if they are fighting on our side).
4) It is unacceptable to treat them as a friendly nation (free-trade, land ownership, immigration) so long as they hold Islam as their national faith, as it is not possible for us to be part of a common civilization without guaranteeing our own demise
5) Conflict (military, economic, political, or cultural) is inevitable. Military conflict can only be avoided if they recognize our sovereignty (our constitutional right to practice our faith in any way we choose within the borders of our nation).
6) The 9-11 attack was a violation of our religious sovereignty. The attack was incited and perpetrated by the leaders of their religion. Whether or not that war is ongoing is a matter of opinion. I would consider it part of a larger conflict that has been going on for thousands of years. I do not believe the conflict will end unless one faith or the other is eradicated. In short; the only way that Islam can be part of our common civilization is if we either convert to Islam or Atheism.