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Watchdog Group Questions 2004 Florida Vote (Lib Kooks Alert!)
The AP via Yahoo! News ^ | February 23, 2006 | Brian Skoloff

Posted on 02/23/2006 2:36:24 PM PST by new yorker 77

An examination of Palm Beach County's electronic voting machine records from the 2004 election found possible tampering and tens of thousands of malfunctions and errors, a watchdog group said Thursday.

Bev Harris, founder of BlackBoxVoting.org, said the findings call into question the outcome of the presidential race. But county officials and the maker of the electronic voting machines strongly disputed that and took issue with the findings.

Voting problems would have had to have been widespread across the state to make a difference. President Bush won Florida — and its 27 electoral votes — by 381,000 votes in 2004. Overall, he defeated John Kerry by 286 to 252 electoral votes, with 270 needed for victory.

BlackBoxVoting.org, which describes itself as a nonpartisan, nonprofit citizens group, said it found 70,000 instances in Palm Beach County of cards getting stuck in the paperless ATM-like machines and that the computers logged about 100,000 errors, including memory failures.

Also, the hard drives crashed on some of the machines made by Oakland, Calif.-based Sequoia Voting Systems, some machines apparently had to be rebooted over and over, and 1,475 re-calibrations were performed on Election Day on more than 4,300 units, Harris said. Re-calibrations are done when a machine is malfunctioning, she said.

"I actually think there's enough votes in play in Florida that it's anybody's guess who actually won the presidential race," Harris added. "But with that said, there's no way to tell who the votes should have gone to."

Palm Beach County and other parts of the country switched to electronic equipment after the turbulent 2000 presidential election, when the county's butterfly ballot confused some voters and led them to cast their votes for third-party candidate Pat Buchanan instead of Al Gore. The Supreme Court halted a recount after 36 days and handed a 537-vote victory to Bush.

Palm Beach County election officials said the BlackBoxVoting.com findings are flawed, and they blamed most of the errors on voters not following proper procedures.

"Their results are noteworthy for consideration, but in a majority of instances they can be explained," said Arthur Anderson, the county's elections supervisor. "All of these circumstances are valid reasons for concern, but they do not on face value substantiate that the machines are not reliable."

Sequoia spokeswoman Michelle Shafer disputed the findings, saying the company's machines worked properly. Sequoia's machines are used in five Florida counties and in 21 states.

"There was a fine election in November 2004," Shafer said.

She said many of the errors in the computer logs could have resulted from voters improperly inserting their user cards into the machines. The remaining errors would not affect the vote results because each unit has a backup system, she said.

Jenny Nash, a spokeswoman for the Florida Department of State, which oversees elections, said she was not aware of the report and had no comment.

Harris said one machine showed that 112 votes were cast on Oct. 16, two days before the start of early voting, a possible sign of tampering. She said the group found evidence of tampering on more than 30 machines in the county.

However, Harris said it was impossible to determine what information was altered or if votes were shifted among candidates.

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1 posted on 02/23/2006 2:36:26 PM PST by new yorker 77
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To: Clintonfatigued
The anchor of liberal insanity is voter fraud.
2 posted on 02/23/2006 2:38:37 PM PST by new yorker 77 (Conservatives who eat their own are a liberal's best friend.)
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To: new yorker 77


It's always suspicious when the left loses. No one EVER votes against them. No one EVER rejects their ideas. yeah, yeah, yeah - heard it all before...


3 posted on 02/23/2006 2:39:23 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President!)
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To: PJ-Comix

Hey, PJ - your buddy Bev surfaces again!

Needs $10 more...


4 posted on 02/23/2006 2:39:50 PM PST by beaureguard
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To: new yorker 77

I wish Yahoo and the AP would pay this much attention to the Saddam tapes supporting the need to go to war in Iraq. Guess that's not as important an issue, though.


5 posted on 02/23/2006 2:41:40 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (No respect for conservatives? That's free speech. No respect for liberals? That's hate speech.)
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To: new yorker 77
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6 posted on 02/23/2006 2:41:57 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: new yorker 77

ID, paper ballots, and purple dye is the way to go.

End the idiocy of allowing vote fraud now.


7 posted on 02/23/2006 2:42:05 PM PST by Kenny500c
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To: new yorker 77

Liberals invented Fraud, they are afraid that someone else has one upped them. Talk about stupidity....


8 posted on 02/23/2006 2:42:49 PM PST by tomnbeverly (Liberal Lips Sink Ships....)
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To: beaureguard; PJ-Comix

DUmmieland will be jumpin' tonight.


9 posted on 02/23/2006 2:43:06 PM PST by gate2wire
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To: new yorker 77
Ah, Bev Harris - the "red dog" publicist who, via her old PR firm, Talion.com, tried to get the Burkett/Bush AWOL allegations out... just before the 2000 election. You know, the Bill Burkett that was the source of SeeBS's "fake but accurate" story before the 2004 election? Same Bill Burkett. You can't say Bev isn't ahead of the curve on moonbat conspiracy theories.

Even the DUers don't much like poor old Bev anymore, after she fleeced them out of money after the 2004 election.

Why is anyone listening to this crank?
10 posted on 02/23/2006 2:43:27 PM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: new yorker 77
Ahhh, I think most of the machine handlers would have been D-rats, right?

Ahhh, any twitchy voting sure wouldn't have been for President Bush.
11 posted on 02/23/2006 2:43:35 PM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: new yorker 77
Bev Harris, founder of BlackBoxVoting.

Oh not not her again!

12 posted on 02/23/2006 2:45:19 PM PST by tiredoflaundry (I'll admit it , I'm a Snow Flake !(Snoq) The rest of my tagline redacted by court order.)
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To: new yorker 77

Another Liberal comes to terms with Kerry's loss...

13 posted on 02/23/2006 2:46:10 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: tiredoflaundry
Oh not not her again!

LMAO!! I thought the same thing!

14 posted on 02/23/2006 2:46:47 PM PST by retrokitten (www.retrosrants.blogspot.com)
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To: Mo1

*ping -a- ling*


15 posted on 02/23/2006 2:47:29 PM PST by tiredoflaundry (I'll admit it , I'm a Snow Flake !(Snoq) The rest of my tagline redacted by court order.)
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To: new yorker 77
Bev Harris, founder of BlackBoxVoting.org, said the findings call into question the outcome of the presidential race.

The only question is the margin of W's victory. Lefties cheat. Righties try to cheat and get caught. End of story.

16 posted on 02/23/2006 2:49:33 PM PST by kerryusama04 (The Bill of Rights is not occupation specific.)
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To: retrokitten

:0)


17 posted on 02/23/2006 2:50:33 PM PST by tiredoflaundry (I'll admit it , I'm a Snow Flake !(Snoq) The rest of my tagline redacted by court order.)
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To: new yorker 77

OK, OK, As a Republican I confess:

We made a deal with the space aliens. They rigged the election results and we promised them they could mutilate all the cattle they wanted.


18 posted on 02/23/2006 2:51:00 PM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (DO NOT read to the end of this tagline . . . Oh, $#@%^, there you went and did it.)
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To: new yorker 77
President Bush won Florida...by 381,000 votes in 2004.

BlackBoxVoting.org, which describes itself as a nonpartisan, nonprofit citizens group, (Yeah. Right.) said it found 70,000 instances in Palm Beach County of cards getting stuck in the paperless ATM-like machines and that the computers logged about 100,000 errors, including memory failures.

Adding up to how many potential votes which way? Maybe all the errors were Dem precincts rigging non-existent votes for whoever it was they were running that year. It's always Palm Beach and that county is run by Dems, isn't it?

19 posted on 02/23/2006 2:56:13 PM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: tiredoflaundry
Is it happy hour yet?? ..

I just can't take this idiotic news anymore

20 posted on 02/23/2006 2:57:03 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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