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The new rules of the global game
BBC ^ | 02.19.06 | Jonathan Marcus

Posted on 02/23/2006 10:09:13 PM PST by Coleus

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To: B4Ranch

Nope, i would be long gone before the riots broke out. Trying to defend a home is a pointless exercise in any major city. I just thought the pic was funny.


61 posted on 02/25/2006 10:39:19 AM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: vrwc0915

Smart man.


62 posted on 02/25/2006 10:40:08 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: B4Ranch
I read a lot about people who are going to defend their home in a city if SHTF, they have these elaborate plans and thousands of rds and this and that. All of that is worthless against the old commie favorite:


63 posted on 02/25/2006 10:43:46 AM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: vrwc0915

Leave the cities for the fools.





Non illigitamus carborundum


64 posted on 02/25/2006 10:45:59 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: B4Ranch

Seems like a wise man was right when he said "we're only 6-7 meals away from chaos"


65 posted on 02/25/2006 10:51:42 AM PST by american spirit
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To: Travis McGee

.....and what if those cities were full people who have no skills, can't speak English, could care less about this country and are almost totally dependent on gov't benefits to survive. In the event of a national economic disruption and the $ stop flowing to these people wonder what kind of mood they'll be in?.......ordo ab chao?


66 posted on 02/25/2006 10:58:41 AM PST by american spirit
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To: american spirit

Iknow it wasn't polite of me to remind people of that fact. Most have been able to turn their heads away from it, so far.


67 posted on 02/25/2006 11:07:03 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Travis McGee
[ The global elite knows what's best for you, and you're going to get it. ]

Exactly.. The lonelyest phrase never heard asked as a question to ANY federal politician IS:
"ARE YOU A GLOBALIST OPEN TO SURRENDERING AMERICAS SOVERIGNTY?"
or are you a nationalist?..

You will never hear that spoken..
You will hear REMEMBER Ted Kennedys murder whitewash before that..
Come to think of it theres a plethora of questions that will NEVER BE ASKED...

Like: Howcome the Fort Marcy Park Rangers investigated a MURDER?...
or howcome Sandy Berger is not rotting in Levenworth like I would be if I did the same crime(s).. like that..

Foggy Bottom stinks, the smell of the skunk is penerating..

68 posted on 02/25/2006 11:08:28 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: B4Ranch

Either that or they suffer from inoperable rectal/cranial inversion.


69 posted on 02/25/2006 11:54:29 AM PST by american spirit
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To: american spirit

Total "Mad Max in Mogadishu" anarchy in under 2 weeks, I'd guess.


70 posted on 02/25/2006 1:34:07 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: hosepipe

And we're just strapped in and being taken along for the ride.


71 posted on 02/25/2006 1:34:46 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee
What is shaping up is not Demoncrat vs Republicrat or "Free Trade" vs Protectionism.

I feel a very big battle in the unending war Good vs Evil is about to begin and last for many years

72 posted on 02/25/2006 2:10:52 PM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: Travis McGee

Bumping the thread...


73 posted on 02/25/2006 3:08:15 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: B4Ranch; Travis McGee; Mulder; Minuteman23
How many days food supply do you have in your home? Do you friends and neighbors have the same? …

Reliance upon foreign nations for our food supplies, is criminal! Our nation wide daily food requirements could be interrupted so simply. With foreign ships refusing to unload at our foreign controlled ports this will bring America to her knees in ten days or less. …

Men and nations lay down to die. Why are we laying down? Are we just relaxing or are we sleeping while our President and the Congress sign our death certificates? …

To All Americans: Do you want to see this movie or would you prefer to live this one event to the end? Is it time to stop globalization or shall we continue walking to our graveyards? … B4Ranch

Thank you for asking the tough questions that so many people are either not informed enough, or too afraid, to ask. And I know that your own personal answers to those questions are well considered … and are the result of research, born of concern, born of knowledge.

Not only are our economy and our trade policies no longer free, but what we have chosen as the focus of both is potentially deadly.

Frequently, during Alan Greenspan's testimony before the House Financial Services Committee, he would lecture -- condescendingly -- that we Americans need to get used to the fact that our 'new economy' is a 'cerebral economy’. He went on to explain that we have progressed to the point where we no longer have to rely on manufacturing tangible, nuts-and-bolts products in order to thrive as a society.

My reaction to that statement always bordered on terror. I had always considered this man to be simply inept. But then I grew to suspect that he was much more cunning -- and agenda-driven. And his agenda was not focused on benefiting America.

I am sick of so-called economic 'pundits' applauding the fact that we have evolved -- a term that generally connotes progress, or movement to a higher plane -- into a 'service-based' economy. They condescendingly make note of the fact that we no longer really have to manufacture or produce -- or compete in the manufacture or production -- of such mundane 'things' as food, steel, farm machinery, automobiles, construction equipment, heating/cooling equipment, electronics, and the like (i.e., nuts and bolts).

They are right about the fact that we have become a service-based economy. They are dead wrong about the fact that we should be proud (not to mention secure) about the fact that we produce/manufacture fewer and fewer of the necessities of life .... and liberty.

We have become a society focused on communication, retail and wholesale trade, finance, real estate, education, health and welfare, recreation, personal services, and accommodations. We talk, write, schedule, transfer money, bureaucratize, push paper, and arrange things.

We design and build very little anymore.

Yet we live in a world in which terrorism -- and the emergence, and increasing power, of serious ideological enemies -- is a real and present danger, and threatens to be so for the foreseeable future. We need to say to the average American: Imagine your own terrorist scenario -- i.e., What do you see as a horrific act, with long-term catastrophic effects, that could be perpetrated on this country? Now ask yourself, what would be needed in order to (1) recover from the attack, and (2) see to it that a recurrence is inconceivable?

Will talking, writing, scheduling, transferring money, bureaucratizing, pushing paper, and arranging things go a long way toward defending and protecting our liberties .... when the world finally acknowledges the fact that 'weapons of mass destruction' is not simply a political phrase of convenience -- and that regimes led by evil men will continue to barter with one another to obtain them?

Or will sophisticated technology, weaponry/intelligence/aircraft electronics, methods of transportation, methods of heating and cooling our homes, the means to repair infrastructure, the wherewithal to grow, harvest, and preserve our food, the means of transporting ourselves from one place to another, water purification methods, health/lifesaving devices, and communications equipment prove to be far more valuable in preparing ourselves to defend against (and recover from potential attacks by) the Kim Jong Ils/Osama bin Ladens/Ali Khameneis of this world (and their future ideological progeny)?

If the answer to the above is ‘yes’ .... and we are forced to depend on the likes of China, Japan, Hong Kong, South Korea, Brazil (or any of the endless list of other less-than-America-friendly countries that have wisely decided that a manufacturing economy is essential to survival in these troubling times) to provide us with the necessities of life (in the absolute literal sense) ... our glorious service-based economy will be the death of us (in the absolute literal sense).

We can survive economically for a time (England and Germany have), but our days of economic greatness are past. We have apathetically subscribed to the message of the elite leftist economic Pied Pipers, and sold our once thriving birthright in the process.

If the global credit system implodes, the world will turn to tangibles. After all, paper is only worth what one believes its future portends. A check from a rich man and a check from a homeless person can have the same amount printed on them, but who would value both of them equally? However, if the homeless man offers you gold (or another tangible commodity), how would your view of your two debtors change?

I have never felt more pessimistic about the economic (and therefore political/security) future of our republic. The fact that behind-the-scenes bankers, monetary policymakers, and power brokers have surreptitiously called the shots for decades used to keep me awake at night. It no longer does. It is an unfortunate fact of life that I, personally, now accept as such. But that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t continue to try to do what is within our power to change that state of affairs – even if what is within our power finds itself daily more limited by those same powers that be.

A nation gets the kind of behavior it tolerates and encourages .... The idea the game will one day end is beyond our comprehension. The foreigners are watching. The foreigners see our 44 trillion in government liabilities. They see our 700 billion dollar trade deficit. They see our 1.7 trillion dollars in personal credit card debt, our trillions in home mortgages, our weakening dollar, our Imperial arrogance and they make judgments. It is their judgment, not ours, which will decide the exact day the illusion called the United States economy will end. The day will come like a tidal wave on a beach full of sunbathing fools. The fundamentals of economic reality are not mocked forever. Consequences are coming .... Doug McIntosh

~ joanie ....

74 posted on 02/25/2006 10:33:26 PM PST by joanie-f (If you believe God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: Travis McGee
Imagine any city if the power went out and stayed out for more than a week.

I was watching part of "How the West Was Won" yesterday and marvelled that in the last 50 years or so, what it took them months to do, it only takes days by car or hours by plane to cross that distance. The traeoff is that you have to have faith in the infrastructure and the people/engineers behind it as well as the same folks that designed your car or the plane you're flying in. Adding to that, you need the same people to keep the power grid going, keeping the roads cleaned and patched and paved, the oil companies and the refineries, auto/aircraft mechanics, tire companies, and so on. We all depend on each other to a great degree to keep things going, if al ink or two should break, until we fix them or come up with a workaround, it will be harder but things will keep going relatively well but if more links break after that such as a cascading effect, it will be "Whoa Nellie and Katy bar the door" time.
75 posted on 02/26/2006 5:57:54 AM PST by Nowhere Man ("Imhotep! Imhotep! IMMMM-HOOOO-TEPP!!!")
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To: joanie-f
Thanks for the ping as always, Joanie. Great post!

Or will sophisticated technology, weaponry/intelligence/aircraft electronics, methods of transportation, methods of heating and cooling our homes, the means to repair infrastructure, the wherewithal to grow, harvest, and preserve our food, the means of transporting ourselves from one place to another, water purification methods, health/lifesaving devices, and communications equipment prove to be far more valuable in preparing ourselves to defend against (and recover from potential attacks by) the Kim Jong Ils/Osama bin Ladens/Ali Khameneis of this world (and their future ideological progeny)?

That's the $64 million question. It's too bad, like you said about B4ranch above, most people aren't informed enough, to too afraid, to ask it.

Good stuff here.

76 posted on 02/26/2006 8:17:36 AM PST by Minuteman23
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To: Nowhere Man

Yep, that cascading effect can make recovery very difficult.


77 posted on 02/26/2006 11:23:56 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: joanie-f
I have never felt more pessimistic about the economic (and therefore political/security) future of our republic.

Same here. The problems are just too large and ingrained to be avoided.

One way to gauge the robustness of a system is to observe what happens when a little pressure is applied. Look at what happened after 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina. Can you imagine what the response would be to a long-term event spread over most of the nation, as opposed to short-term events in concentrated regions?

78 posted on 02/26/2006 4:14:18 PM PST by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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