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It Didn't Work (Iraq is Lost)
National Review ^ | 2/25/06 | Buckley

Posted on 02/25/2006 8:17:32 AM PST by pabianice

"I can tell you the main reason behind all our woes -- it is America." The New York Times reporter is quoting the complaint of a clothing merchant in a Sunni stronghold in Iraq. "Everything that is going on between Sunnis and Shiites, the troublemaker in the middle is America."

One can't doubt that the American objective in Iraq has failed. The same edition of the paper quotes a fellow of the American Enterprise Institute. Mr. Reuel Marc Gerecht backed the American intervention. He now speaks of the bombing of the especially sacred Shiite mosque in Samarra and what that has precipitated in the way of revenge. He concludes that "the bombing has completely demolished" what was being attempted -- to bring Sunnis into the defense and interior ministries.

Our mission has failed because Iraqi animosities have proved uncontainable by an invading army of 130,000 Americans. The great human reserves that call for civil life haven't proved strong enough. No doubt they are latently there, but they have not been able to contend against the ice men who move about in the shadows with bombs and grenades and pistols.

The Iraqis we hear about are first indignant, and then infuriated, that Americans aren't on the scene to protect them and to punish the aggressors. And so they join the clothing merchant who says that everything is the fault of the Americans.

The Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, elucidates on the complaint against Americans. It is not only that the invaders are American, it is that they are "Zionists." It would not be surprising to learn from an anonymously cited American soldier that he can understand why Saddam Hussein was needed to keep the Sunnis and the Shiites from each other's throats.

A problem for American policymakers -- for President Bush, ultimately -- is to cope with the postulates and decide how to proceed.

One of these postulates, from the beginning, was that the Iraqi people, whatever their tribal differences, would suspend internal divisions in order to get on with life in a political structure that guaranteed them religious freedom. The accompanying postulate was that the invading American army would succeed in training Iraqi soldiers and policymakers to cope with insurgents bent on violence.

This last did not happen. And the administration has, now, to cope with failure. It can defend itself historically, standing by the inherent reasonableness of the postulates. After all, they govern our policies in Latin America, in Africa and in much of Asia. The failure in Iraq does not force us to generalize that violence and anti-democratic movements always prevail. It does call on us to adjust to the question, What do we do when we see that the postulates do not prevail -- in the absence of interventionist measures (we used these against Hirohito and Hitler) that we simply are not prepared to take?

It is healthier for the disillusioned American to concede that in one theater in the Mideast, the postulates didn't work. The alternative would be to abandon the postulates. To do that would be to register a kind of philosophical despair. The killer insurgents are not entitled to blow up the shrine of American idealism.

Mr. Bush has a very difficult internal problem here because to make the kind of concession that is strategically appropriate requires a mitigation of policies he has several times affirmed in high-flown pronouncements. His challenge is to persuade himself that he can submit to a historical reality without forswearing basic commitments in foreign policy.

He will certainly face the current development as military leaders are expected to do: They are called upon to acknowledge a tactical setback, but to insist on the survival of strategic policies.

Yes, but within their own counsels, different plans have to be made. And the kernel here is the acknowledgment of defeat.


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Bummer.
1 posted on 02/25/2006 8:17:35 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice
No worries. I don't hold too much stock in someone who was against the war in the first place, determining it's failure.
2 posted on 02/25/2006 8:19:09 AM PST by ReaganRevolution
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To: pabianice

Duplicate

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1585211/posts


3 posted on 02/25/2006 8:20:05 AM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: pabianice
they have not been able to contend against the ice men who move about in the shadows with bombs and grenades and pistols.

Iran, for instance.

4 posted on 02/25/2006 8:20:18 AM PST by IncPen (Torture should be safe, legal, and rare.)
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Funny, did you ever hear that WFB went to Iraq? I didn't. But I have followed the exploits and writings of American Enterprise Institute's Karl Zinsmeister, who has been there THREE TIMES on extended tours. He claims just the opposite. In fact, he argues that over 95% of the country, business is growing and thriving, that people are happy and generally secure, that things are pretty effing good.

This is EXACTLY the report I am getting from several of my military students who are in the region now, or who have just come back.

Wonder whose opinion I trust on this more?

5 posted on 02/25/2006 8:20:38 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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More MSM drivel..why don't they do an article on all the schools that are being opened, more power being supplied, people busy making a living that they couldn't do before, the thanks we get from ordinary Iraqis who know firsthand how it used to be..because that would be considered good news, and we know the MSM will be the last to report things are actually going very, very well..


6 posted on 02/25/2006 8:20:59 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (Islam is a religion of peace and they'll behead 13 year old girls to prove it...)
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To: pabianice

I betcha that clothing merchant has B.O.


7 posted on 02/25/2006 8:21:27 AM PST by YourAdHere (Viking kitties taste like chicken.)
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To: pabianice

I've been buttin heads with Buck since the war began.

I quess that will continue. No surprise here...


8 posted on 02/25/2006 8:21:44 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: pabianice
DUPLICATE THREAD
9 posted on 02/25/2006 8:22:14 AM PST by Zechariah11 (30 shekels -- a contemptible price for the Good Shepherd of Israel)
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To: pabianice

The American Left is now surrendering, conveniently blaming America. I beg to differ.


10 posted on 02/25/2006 8:22:25 AM PST by wrathof59
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To: pabianice
And the kernel here is the acknowledgment of defeat.

Finding a way to cause or claim defeat has been the author's objective, from the first moment.

11 posted on 02/25/2006 8:24:59 AM PST by Tax Government (Defeat the evil miscreant donkeys and their rhino lackeys.)
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To: ReaganRevolution

It's best not to imagine anyone is ever going to say "thank you" whatever the outcome.


12 posted on 02/25/2006 8:26:31 AM PST by vimto
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To: pabianice
It does call on us to adjust to the question, What do we do when we see that the postulates do not prevail -- in the absence of interventionist measures (we used these against Hirohito and Hitler) that we simply are not prepared to take?

Which is what we should've done, but no...we needed to fight a PC war...idjit.

13 posted on 02/25/2006 8:28:06 AM PST by EBH (Islam is not a religion, it is a Theocracy. The sooner ya'll understand that the better.)
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To: Cold Heat
As a addendum to my above comment......

This effort in that part of the world is much bigger than Iraq. The president has done a pretty fair job of outlining the overall strategy, and the key part of it is TIME!~

This will take a great deal of time.

What bush said was "long time", but translated for the interested parties, I would put that on a generation based clock. It will be two generations of Muslims before we see real substantive changes and can sit back and breathe a bit.

At least two generations. This means tha Buckley is a bit ahead of the clock.

14 posted on 02/25/2006 8:28:35 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: pabianice; Zechariah11; bnelson44

15 posted on 02/25/2006 8:29:45 AM PST by WKB
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To: pabianice

I believe we are between a rock and a hard place in Iraq right now. While I've been a strong supporter of our determination to help bring Peace and Democracy to the Middle East, I wonder how what it's going to take to turn around the hatred that Middle Easterners have for each other. At this point, I feel that Middle Easterners are the scourge of the planet. They are stupid, stupid, stupid! How do you fix stupidity?? They believe in a false god that encourages violence, force submission of women, and protest violently over a cartoon of their so-called founder. Sometimes I think we must be crazy to continue to try to push these lunatics to our way of democracy.


16 posted on 02/25/2006 8:30:38 AM PST by marvlus
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
More MSM drivel.

William F. Buckley is hardly "mainstream media drivel." Agree with him or not, he deserves more than a prejudicial brush-off.

17 posted on 02/25/2006 8:30:41 AM PST by jude24 ("Thy law is written on the hearts of men, which iniquity itself effaces not." - St. Augustine)
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To: LS
Wonder whose opinion I trust on this more?

Why obviously, on someone that bases his insight on quotes from a New York Times reporter. /sarc

18 posted on 02/25/2006 8:32:35 AM PST by kanawa (It won't be PC and it won't be pretty but it can be done)
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To: pabianice

the kernel here is the acknowledgment of defeat.

Which course IS the sure way TO defeat.


19 posted on 02/25/2006 8:36:15 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: pabianice

William F. Buckley and his National Review, ranks up there with Goldwater and Ronald Reagan, in building the Conservative movement. I hope WFB is wrong, but since Bush has 2 years to go and will probably have a Republican Senate and Congress, he will get his chance to fail or succeed, not many Presidents get that.


20 posted on 02/25/2006 8:36:26 AM PST by ansel12
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