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Wall seen as ominous U.S. symbol (Miami Herald)
Miami Herald ^ | 02/26/2006 | HECTOR TOBAR

Posted on 02/27/2006 8:57:03 AM PST by devane617

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To: devane617
''It seems to us a real affront that a government that calls itself a friend and regional partner only wants our money and our products . . . treats our people as if they were a plague,'' Stein said.

Can we freely and informally waltz over your border, surreptitously start an illegal business or take an under-the-table job, not pay taxes on the earnings, sign up for social or health benefits without question, demand a drivers license, then send all of our money back to US without being questioned, let alone prosecuted?

Then, STFU!

81 posted on 02/27/2006 10:30:24 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: devane617

could it be the Miami Herald's hispanic readers fear the redirection of immigration to miami?


82 posted on 02/27/2006 10:32:37 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: devane617

If they're already protesting... let's give them something real to protest. I propose a half-mile wide mine field along the entire border. If land mines are good enough for South Korea to keep North Korea out, then land mines are good enough for us to keep the mexicans out.

Since it would be impossible for us to find each and every illegal immigrant, then deport them, I believe the solution is to make life here so difficult for illegals that they themselves decide to leave. Because they come here primarily for jobs, we should go after the employers of illegal aliens. If a company gets caught the first time with an illegal, the gubbermint fines you $5k. The second time it's $25k and/or shutter your doors for 30 days. (BTW, if you report a business for employing illegals, you are rewarded with a cash payment equal to one-half the fine.)

If you are a landlord and rent to an illegal, you get fined, as well. Restrictions on land ownership and borrowing. No bank accounts or check cashing for illegals. No more than one wire transfer to places south of our border, per year.

Let's stop the illegals from traveling inside the US: Proof of positive immigration status for drivers licenses, airplane flights inside CONUS, train travel, and bus trips.

Yes, our emergency rooms will still treat you and your kids. However, once their condition is stabilized, you all get deported.

If an illegal commits a felony inside the US, he does the time in one of our prisons, and is then deported. If he ever returns to the US, we will consider him a clear and present danger, then sentence him to death or life in prison.

Of course, all of these ideas are unpalatable to waaay too many politicians of both parties. One wonders who they work for?


83 posted on 02/27/2006 10:34:56 AM PST by MyDogAllah
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To: ClearCase_guy; N3WBI3; gridlock

The citizens of Miami would be naturally concerned about the wall because the influx of immigrants would "take to the seas", thereby increasing the illegal immigrant influx at the southern tip of Florida.


84 posted on 02/27/2006 10:35:03 AM PST by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: HiJinx

Add to this the Watermelons are crying that it will harm the environment.


85 posted on 02/27/2006 10:36:22 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Jeremiah2911
$2.2 billion / 700 miles

Cheap at the price. If we don't build it, how many more dollars will the next 10 million illegals send home to the mother countries? The next 20 million illegals?

86 posted on 02/27/2006 10:36:31 AM PST by Max in Utah (At least we had it, at one time.)
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To: steel_resolve

The rest of the world is OBSESSED with the USA as an "unchecked superpower".

The other nations NEED desperatly to play the USA and some other power. Without a "USSR" the other nations can't blackmail the USA to their third world advantage. They don't like the fact they can't do that any more and now the USA can make them behave.


87 posted on 02/27/2006 10:40:11 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: devane617

The wall is to keep us gringos in, not the mexicans out.


88 posted on 02/27/2006 10:43:29 AM PST by chainsaw ( ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - H. Clinton))
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To: ClearCase_guy

"False comparison"

The fact that Mexicans are confusing the Berlin Wall for any wall the US builds to keep illegals out shows that their Public Education System in Old Mexico is just as bad as the one we have.


89 posted on 02/27/2006 10:44:26 AM PST by wmileo
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To: wmileo

They are confusing nothing.

This is a classic straw man argument.

1. The US is building the Berlin wall.

2. Berlin wall = oppression and death.

3. Therefore if US doesn't support oppression and death they should not build the wall.

Works great for the uneducated masses.


90 posted on 02/27/2006 10:48:35 AM PST by Jeremiah2911
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To: devane617
``The walls are falling now. Berlin's fell, and [the Americans] still haven't learned yet.''

But the Great Wall of China still stands...

91 posted on 02/27/2006 10:48:37 AM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: Mogollon
1). Fine all employers that hire illegals $15000/illegal.
2). Set up a nation-wide 1-800-illegal number for good citizens to report employers that hire illegal aliens.
3). Pass a law that says: Anchor babies are no longer granted citizenship to illegal alien parents.
4). Build the fence.


5). transfer all employees, assets, and funding of BATFE to border patrol.
92 posted on 02/27/2006 10:49:55 AM PST by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: devane617

too bad they feel that way. I am tired of them laughing at us and thinking we are such saps that when we stand up and want to do something about it, they cower away.


93 posted on 02/27/2006 10:54:32 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: devane617
Across the region, el muro is seen as an ominous new symbol of America's unchecked power.

Unchecked power? WTF is up with that? We're building it on our side of the border to protect our lands and our own national sovereignty. How is that infringing on anyone else through "unchecked power"? What the h*ll do they expect us to do, just do away with our national boundaries so anyone can walk in and take over? Oops, I guess they do.

OTOH I now have a new line to try out on my neighbor who just put up a picket fence so he can let his dog run loose in his yard. I'll ask him if he feels guilty about his "unchecked power" (over me), and of how it isn't right that I can't just walk into his yard anytime I want and do whatever I choose with his land. Yep, good argument, that.

94 posted on 02/27/2006 11:03:45 AM PST by chimera
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"...What the h*ll do they expect us to do, just do away with our national boundaries so anyone can walk in and take over? Oops, I guess they do..."

That's exactly what W is working for.

95 posted on 02/27/2006 11:08:56 AM PST by devane617 (The truth, not politics, is right for our beautiful America.)
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To: TaxRelief

I dont know... If I have a choice between trying to sneak past a border checkpoint and chance it in the gulf I am taking the land route..


96 posted on 02/27/2006 11:12:33 AM PST by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: devane617
Wall seen as ominous U.S. symbol

The border fence (wall) is the best symbol we could have. It says stay the eff out. Stay home and don't bother us. Only come here legally.

USA fence proposal

USA fence proposal

97 posted on 02/27/2006 11:18:10 AM PST by dennisw (There is no false prophet but Muhammad and Allah is his sock puppet)
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To: chimera
Across the region, el muro is seen as an ominous new symbol of America's unchecked power.

I doubt this is true. These open borders types will throw out any line they think will resonate with the stupid and naive among us.
If I had a neighbor put up a fence I have more respect for him because he is serious about his property. Mexicans and Central Americans see us as fat and lazy fools for not keeping out their hordes

98 posted on 02/27/2006 11:23:00 AM PST by dennisw (There is no false prophet but Muhammad and Allah is his sock puppet)
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To: tfecw

Arriba con el muro! Y que lo construyan empezando ahora mismo! (Up with the wall! And start on it now!)


99 posted on 02/27/2006 11:47:27 AM PST by Paulus Invictus
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''It's one more slap in the face from the gringos, an example of their cynicism,'' actress Patricia Orantes told the newspaper. ``The walls are falling now. Berlin's fell, and [the Americans] still haven't learned yet.''

He has a limited grasp of history. The Berlin Wall was built to keep people in. Our wall will be built to keep parasites out.
100 posted on 02/27/2006 11:57:44 AM PST by Serenissima Venezia (U.S. a 3rd world soon: not educating enough scientists/engineers and being invaded by illegals)
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