Posted on 02/27/2006 8:57:03 AM PST by devane617
It will not be long before the U.N. Rights commission is scheduled to investigate it as a criminal matter.[not really sarcasm]
"probably asking too much for paper to remind us what the function of the berlin wall was, who built it, and compare and contrast that with any hypothetical wall on the mexican border."
There is a wall in front of me, where I am typing this on my computer. Now I ask, who are the gringos who have taken away my human rights! I demand this wall in front of me be taken down!
I agree. Real reform in Latin America isn't going to happen until we tell them they can't come here-illegally- to escape their problems.
Wouldn't it be interesting to see how many Americans would come out to help build the wall?
"If we're that bad, then why would you want to come here?"
If you're not in charge of your country, if international law is the rule, what's to be afraid of then? American law is of no concern to Mexican nationalism. Their elites believe they can transcend it.
I completely agree with you that it doesn't work on military application, but I question the effectiveness for illegal immigration as well. This proposed wall protects our Southern border with Mexico, right? I don't think it answers these other questions:
1. Legal visa-holders becoming illegals (I think most if not all 9/11 terrorists fit in this category).
2. Crossing over from Canada.
3. Underground tunnels from Mexico (recent story about a man-size, paved tunnel going to a warehouse in San Diego).
4. Crashing a boat onto the coastline (a few years ago, Chinese illegals used that ploy).
Again, I don't want to be misconstrued. I'm for the Southern wall, but I'm not sure about it's effectiveness to capital ratio as it's currently proposed. It seems more like a kneejerk reaction from Washington because of the border states and the Minutemen.
Granted, the wall in its current form is useless against a concentrated tank attack, but so far the illegals have not used that technique.
"Do we know for a fact that this is what our border guys want?'
At this stage, we know that the illegals DON'T want a wall, and that's a good enough reason to build one.
Points 2 - 4: Some will still get in. Just not millions.
I like it.
Well, it's only "ominous" to those planning to come here illegally. The LEGAL immigrants and/or guest workers won't have a problem.
Like if you were from Guatemala trying to sneak into Mexico?
"Many of the illegals in Mexico, who emigrate from Central and South America, complain of "double dangers" of extortion by Mexican authorities and robbery and killings by organized gangs."
"The State Department's Human Rights Practices report, released only last month, cites abuses at all levels of the Mexican government, and charges that Mexican police and immigration officials not only violate the rights of illegal immigrants, but traffic in illegal aliens."
That's my point.
It is ominous. However, reading omens is best left to the pros. Buy gold!
I think it was Henry Cabot Lodge who said that the test of any government is to build a wall around its country and then observe. Are people climbing over the wall to get out, or are they climbing over the wall to get in?
Fair enough. So this wall will stop the horde but may not stop the next 9/11.
Then again, in my opinion, a perfect defense is untenable and taking the the fight to them is our best option.
I know. I was having fun.
Considering the Superfund cleanup that would have to be done on the entire country of Mexico to make it inhabitable under current EPA regs, a 700 mile wall will be much cheaper. Let them keep their crapheap country and clean it up (environmentally and politically) themselves.
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