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Controversial Cartoons Debut at UC Irvine [Orange County, CA - TONIGHT! Tuesday, 2/28/06 - 7 pm]
ABC 7.com ^ | February 28, 2006 | ABC News

Posted on 02/28/2006 1:09:24 PM PST by RonDog

This event is TONIGHT!!!

Controversial Cartoons Debut at UC Irvine
IRVINE - Security will be increased at UC Irvine tonight when students plan to "unveil" Danish cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad that sparked widespread violence in the Middle East and Europe, an official said.

A confrontation will be avoided "if our students have anything to do with it," UC Irvine Dean of Students Sally Peterson said. "But who knows who might show up."

Peterson said her concerns are protecting students' safety and security as well as their free speech rights. She declined to reveal the specifics of the increased security. Representatives of College Republicans, who are co-sponsoring the event, met yesterday with members of the Muslim Student Union, which says showing the cartoons will promote fear of Muslims, met yesterday in an exchange that "didn't change anyone's mind," Peterson said.

"The Unveiling of the Cartoons & A Discussion to Confront Terror" is scheduled for 7 p.m. in the Crystal Cove Auditorium of the university's Student Union. Initially, just the seminar was planned, but copies of the cartoons became available and someone decided to show them, Peterson said.

Last week, members of the Muslim Student Union called upon College Republicans to revoke their sponsorship.

Another sponsor is the United American Committee, whose Web site describes the protests that have erupted as a result of the cartoons, which were first featured in a Danish newspaper, as "censorship by terrorism."

"Freedom of expression is not a conditional right predicated on the consent of terrorists, supremacists and despots who arrogantly demand that their views and behavior are unassailable by their fellow man," the Web site states.

Osman Umarji, of the Muslim Student Union, said the program promises to incite Islamophobia.

"They're going to discuss Islamic terrorism and how most Muslims are apologists for terror," Umarji said. "Many Republicans we spoke to are not in agreement."

Muslim students and their supporters will demonstrate, but also hold a "teaching" seminar on Muhammad and a news conference, Umarji said. He expects hundreds of supporters, including representative of other religions and local elected officials.

Marya Bangee, a member of the group's board, said Muslims believe that no religious figures should be maligned but that the ratio of violence among people protesting the cartoons is only one in 100.

"We do not believe in any violence. We're in favor of other things, like a boycotting," Bangee said.

"Displaying the cartoons at UC Irvine will only incite hatred against and deeply hurt its Muslim community, and create an atmosphere of animosity and Islamophobia on campus. This is diametrically opposed to the spirit of a university campus, a place for intellectual debate that fosters mutual understanding and respect."

Depictions of Muhammad are prohibited under Islamic law.

Kristen Lucero, 21, president of College Republicans, told the Los Angeles Times that the cartoons of Muhammad will be displayed along with what she called anti-Semitic and anti-Western cartoons published in Muslim nations.

"We are firm believers in the First Amendment," Lucero said. "The public has the right to discuss as well as view the cartoons."

Topics to be discussed include an examination of whether some U.S. Islamic groups are apologists for terror and Islamic militancy on U.S. college campuses.



TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; ca; cartoons; collegerepublicans; immigration; irvine; ucirvine
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See also, from www.unitedamericancommittee.org:

Download the flier for this event (.pdf format) & help distribute it to like minded individuals

CLICK HERE FOR DIRECTIONS & CAMPUS MAP

California Panel Discussion to Hold Unveiling of Controversial Danish Cartoons


  On February 28th, The United American Committee & the College Republicans will host a discussion session at the University of California Irvine with a special 'Unveiling of the Cartoons' in which the controversial Danish cartoons depicting the Islamic prophet Mohammad will be displayed along with Anti-Semitic and Anti-Western cartoons which have been printed in Iran, Saudi Arabia and other Islamic nations, with the panelists commenting on their perspective of each cartoon. The discussion will also address the issue of mainstream Islamic organizations who may act as apologists for terror. Scheduled are a wide range of panelists with in depth knowledge on militant Islam. An open invite is extended to The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR ) who is currently boycotting the event. Organizers of the event plan on having an empty chair for CAIR should they wish to attend or should another mainstream Islamic organization wish to participate in the discussion.

The discussion session promises to be informative for anyone concerned about national security, about alleged issues of anti-Semitism as well as alleged discrimination against Muslim-Americans in the Untied States during the War on Terror. It also will delve into activities of certain groups and will seek to answer questions over exactly where allegiances lie in these troubling times. Anyone interested in how the conflict in the Middle East affects Americans here at home will not want to miss this important event.

Admission is free and everyone is welcome.
The event will be held at UC Irvine, California in
THE CRYSTAL COVE AUDITORIUM
Was in room PSCB120 but is now relocated to the Crystal Cove Auditorium at UC Irvine.
Tuesday, February 28th
Arrive at 6:30 PM, event will begin at 7:00 PM sharp.

For more information contact:
info@unitedamericancommittee.org
Or visit www.UnitedAmericanCommittee.org

Freeway Directions:

405 Freeway

From the North:
Exit at Jamboree Rd.
Right on Jamboree Rd.
Left on Campus Dr.
Immidiately after you pass West Peltason there is an entrance to the parking structure on your right. Parking is $5 or you can try and find other parking in the area. The event is in the Crystal Cove Auditorium behind the parking structure.

From the South:
Exit at University Dr.
Left on University Dr.
Left on Campus Dr.
Immidiately after you pass West Peltason there is an entrance to the parking structure on your right. Parking is $5 or you can try and find other parking in the area. The event is in the Crystal Cove Auditorium behind the parking structure.

5 Freeway

From the North:
Take 5 South to Jamboree Rd.
Go all the way down to Campus Dr.
Left on Campus Dr.
Immidiately after you pass West Peltason there is an entrance to the parking structure on your right. Parking is $5 or you can try and find other parking in the area. The event is in the Crystal Cove Auditorium behind the parking structure.

From the South:
Take 5 North to 405 North
Exit at University Dr.
Left on University Dr.
Left on Campus Dr.
Immidiately after you pass West Peltason there is an entrance to the parking structure on your right. Parking is $5 or you can try and find other parking in the area. The event is in the Crystal Cove Auditorium behind the parking structure.

CAMPUS MAP:


1 posted on 02/28/2006 1:09:27 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog

Preceded of course by a "Speedy Gonzales" short.


2 posted on 02/28/2006 1:13:46 PM PST by Sybeck1
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To: Pikamax; feinswinesuksass; DoughtyOne; Cinnamon Girl; Tony in Hawaii; Bob J; diotima; gc4nra; ...
See also THIS thread:

Planned Exhibit of Cartoons Protested
LA TIMES ^ | 02/25/06 | Daniel Yi
Posted on 02/27/2006 1:28:34 PM PST by Pikamax

Planned Exhibit of Cartoons Protested The caricatures of Muhammad will be displayed at a UCI student forum. Muslims object, and university officials are wary. By Daniel Yi, Times Staff Writer February 25 2006

Plans by a Republican student group at UC Irvine to showcase the controversial cartoons of the prophet Muhammad that led to violent protests around the world are drawing condemnation from Muslim groups and university officials.

The caricatures will be part of a panel discussion sponsored by the campus College Republicans scheduled for Tuesday at 7 p.m. in UCI's Crystal Cove Auditorium.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...

CLICK HERE for the rest of that thread
Southern California PING!!!
3 posted on 02/28/2006 1:14:34 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
Free Speech Ping!

So how many of the "non-violent" Muslim students will show up with their "Behead All Those Who Insult Islam" signs?

4 posted on 02/28/2006 1:15:05 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Islamofascists don't need cartoons. They're already caricatures.)
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To: RonDog


....of course this University has been fostering Anti American hatred amongst Muslims for years with it's socialist/communist ideology - but when you hate westerners and their ideas it's "equalitarianism".


5 posted on 02/28/2006 1:20:00 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President!)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel; DogByte6RER; doug from upland; ALOHA RONNIE; DLfromthedesert; PatiPie; ...
See also THIS thread:

Campus cartoon showing planned: It prompts anger by Muslim groups
ASSOCIATED PRESS ^ | February 26, 2006 | By Gillian Flaccus
Posted on 02/26/2006 2:09:42 PM PST by DogByte6RER

Campus cartoon showing planned

It prompts anger by Muslim groups

By Gillian Flaccus ASSOCIATED PRESS

February 26, 2006

IRVINE – The cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad that sparked mass demonstrations across the Middle East and Europe are causing unrest on a smaller scale at the University of California Irvine, after a student group announced plans to “unveil” the drawings at a panel on Islamic extremism.

The panel, which is scheduled to take place on campus Tuesday, has prompted angry reaction from several Muslim groups, including the school's Muslim Student Union. Another group, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, was invited to participate in the panel but is boycotting it, said spokeswoman Sabiha Kahn.

The debate surrounding the student panel follows incidents at other campuses, including Harvard University and the University of Illinois, where student newspapers published the Danish cartoons of the Muslim prophet with a bomb in his turban.

“To have a negative portrayal of the Prophet Muhammad is a slap in the face, and we have an obligation to defend our prophet against slurs on his reputation,” said Marya Bangee, a sophomore at UC Irvine and a member of the Muslim Student Union. “They're trying to draw a link between Islam and terrorism and that's what we've been trying all along to stop.”

Organizers say the panel is aimed at promoting dialogue about the cartoons, which have gone largely unpublished in the U.S. media for fear of offending Muslims.

The panel will also discuss Islamic extremism and provide examples of anti-Western, anti-Christian and anti-Semitic drawings that have appeared in some Middle Eastern newspapers, said Jesse Petrilla, founder of The United American Committee, an event organizer.

“How can you confront an issue when people don't even see what's going on and what the bottom line is? We really need to get it out on the table,” he said. “This is the freest nation in the world, and if we can't discuss things openly without being afraid, then we're losing sight of something important.”

Bangee said the Muslim Student Union has asked The College Republicans, which joined with The United American Committee to sponsor the event, to pull its affiliation. Without the student Republicans, the event couldn't go forward because The United American Committee is not a registered student group at UC Irvine.

The university has more than 2,000 Muslim-American students.

The Muslim Student Union has received hate mail related to the prophet drawings and has contacted campus police for additional security should the panel go forward, Bangee said.

A College Republicans representative didn't return calls for comment.

Bangee said Muslim students may hold a peaceful teach-in and protest next door to the event if they are unable to stop it.

The Muslim Student Union at UC Irvine last drew national attention in 2004 when more than two dozen students wore green stoles to their graduation. They said the stoles symbolized their faith, but others said the clothing represented allegiance to the militant group Hamas and was meant to intimidate Jewish students.

Thousands of Muslims worldwide have protested – sometimes violently – against the drawings of the Prophet Muhammad after they were published in a Danish newspaper in September. The drawings are offensive to Muslims because Islamic tradition bans any depiction of Muhammad.

CLICK HERE for the rest of that thread
Freedom of Speech PING!
6 posted on 02/28/2006 1:22:25 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
Displaying the cartoons at UC Irvine will only incite hatred against and deeply hurt its Muslim community,

Yeah, THAT's what makes people hate Muslims. Cartoons...not all the killing or anything.

7 posted on 02/28/2006 1:27:40 PM PST by Gator101
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To: RonDog

The UAE has also boycotted the Danes because of the Muhammed cartoons.



http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/02/08/cartoon.protests/index.html

The cartoons have prompted boycotts of Danish goods throughout the Muslim world. In Dubai, United Arab Emirates, travel agents said travelers were not booking flights to Denmark or Norway.

Also in UAE, a university professor was fired after distributing copies of the cartoons to her students. The nation's minister of education, Sheikh Nahyan bin Mubarak al Nahan, said he ordered Clauda Keepoz's dismissal because "her behavior has nothing to do with the freedom of expression."

http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=5256
Protests against “blasphemous” cartoons mounts in Islamic nations
Jan. 31,2006

[snip] Burnt flags, political condemnation, and appeals for a boycott are involving even traditionally moderate Islamic nations, like Jordan, the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait. The Arab League and Organizations from the Islamic who announced their intention to appeal to the United Nations for a resolution blocking all forms of attacks against religious faiths.

But the wave of protest continues. “It’s cultural terrorism, not freedom of expression” intoned Mohammad al-Dhaheri, Minister for Justice and Islamic affairs of the United Arab Emirates.


http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0201/dailyUpdate.html
In an editorial, the Khaleej Times of the United Arab Emirates expressed dismay that the Danish government has not formally apologized for the episode.

"The prime minister [Danish] continues to defend the insensitive newspaper in the name of ‘media freedom’. All freedom including that of the media comes with responsibility. Mocking people’s deeply held religious beliefs and sentiments is no media freedom. It’s sheer and unpardonable callousness."


8 posted on 02/28/2006 1:28:00 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: RonDog

"Plans by a Republican student group at UC Irvine to showcase the controversial cartoons of the prophet Muhammad that led to violent protests around the world are drawing condemnation from Muslim groups and university officials."

Funny how these Muslim groups didn't condemn the violent protests, but they do condemn a debate.


9 posted on 02/28/2006 1:32:47 PM PST by Feiny ( "Why don't we go up to the old people's home and wax the steps? " ~ Barney Fife)
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To: feinswinesuksass; M. Espinola; wagglebee
See also THESE (related) threads:
Jewish students and activists call UC Irvine a hotbed of anti-Semitic harassment
  Posted by M. Espinola
On News/Activism 03/11/2005 1:38:23 AM PST · 27 replies · 433+ views


The Jewish Journal of LA ^ | March 11th, 2005 | Marc Ballon & Tom Tugend
 

Jihad Comes to UC-Irvine
  Posted by wagglebee
On News/Activism 06/08/2004 2:22:53 PM PDT · 18 replies · 191+ views


FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 6/8/04 | Arnold Steinberg

10 posted on 02/28/2006 1:37:32 PM PST by RonDog
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Bump that.


11 posted on 02/28/2006 1:42:45 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: RonDog
"They're trying to draw a link between Islam and terrorism and that's what we've been trying all along to stop."

Trying to draw a link? Is there honestly a question about this?
12 posted on 02/28/2006 1:52:24 PM PST by Deut28 (Cursed be he who perverts the justice)
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To: WatchingInAmazement
The UAE has also boycotted the Danes because of the Muhammed cartoons.

Yeah, kinda. CNN misses whether or not A.P. Møller-Mærsk ships are still importing/exporting goods into the Emirates.
I'm sure with all of this protesting of the Danes in the middle east, the Mærsk terminal in Oman will be going out of business soon. [/sarc]
13 posted on 02/28/2006 2:02:38 PM PST by Renderofveils (Qur’an 8:39 “So, fight them until all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam.”)
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To: Deut28; kattracks; SJackson
See also THIS thread:

Graduation Jihad
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 6/17/04 | Roberta Leguizamon
Posted on 06/17/2004 1:57:58 AM PDT by kattracks

Graduating students at University of California-Irvine should be celebrating the end of a journey and the beginning of the best and most productive years of their lives. Instead, some of those young hopefuls intend to show their support for terrorism, murder and Islamist tyranny.

The Muslim Student Union (MSU) of University of California-Irvine has asked graduating Muslim students to wear green sashes bearing the word “shahada,” the Arabic word for "martyrdom.”

The Muslim world refers to a suicide bomber who kills innocent civilians in Israel as a “shahid.” Pilots and their cohorts who fly airplanes into skyscrapers are also celebrated for their "martyrdom..."

CLICK HERE for the rest of that thread

14 posted on 02/28/2006 2:02:48 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
Osman Umarji, of the Muslim Student Union, said the program promises to incite Islamophobia.

Actually, Osman, I think 9-11 already did that, but if it didn't, then I'm sure some of the other bombings, beheadings, raping, rioting, chanting "death to America", or burning American contractors and hanging their body parts from bridges and power lines probably did the trick!!

When is Bush planning to be in Pakistan? He may encounter big problems. I'm sure this will cause rioting around the world again, and the little Koranimals will kill each other to protest what we did, which is something that I never understood, but we'll take what we can get. The more they kill, the less we'll have to.

15 posted on 02/28/2006 2:49:00 PM PST by NRA2BFree
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To: Tzimisce; Brad's Gramma
"The Muslim Student Union at UC Irvine last drew national attention in 2004 when more than two dozen students wore green stoles to their graduation. They said the stoles symbolized their faith, but others said the clothing represented allegiance to the militant group Hamas and was meant to intimidate Jewish students."

First of all IIRC the muslim students had the blessing of university administration to do so. Second, the green stoles have white arabic lettering on them, the same as the "palestinian flag" and headbands.

So, the message was and is clear.

16 posted on 02/28/2006 3:22:00 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God bless our troops and their families.)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

You really need to see this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1587167/posts

Especially, scroll down towards the end where Hughes expounds on her belief in a "free press" and then denounces the Danish cartoons as "offensive."


17 posted on 02/28/2006 3:34:49 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God bless our troops and their families.)
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To: RonDog

Let's hope Muslims show some tolerance of Free Speech and Freedom of the Press.


18 posted on 02/28/2006 4:02:32 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: feinswinesuksass
Plans by a Republican student group at UC Irvine to showcase the controversial cartoons of the prophet Muhammad that led to violent protests around the world are drawing condemnation from Muslim groups and university officials

I wish that read:
violent protests around the world are drawing condemnation from Muslim groups and university officials without any preface.
19 posted on 02/28/2006 4:24:43 PM PST by Renderofveils (Qur’an 8:39 “So, fight them until all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam.”)
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To: A CA Guy
From the MSU COUNTER-rally:


20 posted on 02/28/2006 5:15:31 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
Well, "piss be on them" if they can't stand freedom.

Why do they keep wishing peace on Mohammad and act out violence on everyone else?
21 posted on 02/28/2006 6:32:28 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: RonDog

I heard a rep from the Republican group on Larry Elder yesterday & they are filming the event. They may even offer the DVD for sale. I do expect a report with pix by 10 pm. ;^)


22 posted on 02/28/2006 6:33:59 PM PST by Feiny ( "Why don't we go up to the old people's home and wax the steps? " ~ Barney Fife)
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To: Sybeck1

23 posted on 02/28/2006 7:25:37 PM PST by devolve (<-- (upload to free image accts at Photobucket & Imagecave)
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src="http://img.photobucket.com/albus/v216/mbdaz01/UCI/DSC02411.jpg">
24 posted on 02/28/2006 10:57:46 PM PST by Ladycalif (She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain. -- Louisa May Alcott)
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ping


25 posted on 02/28/2006 10:58:56 PM PST by Ladycalif (She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain. -- Louisa May Alcott)
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To: Ladycalif

Tolerate us....or we'll kill you!

Wow.


26 posted on 03/01/2006 1:26:15 AM PST by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org)
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To: Ladycalif

thanks for the pics LadyCalif


27 posted on 03/01/2006 6:10:10 AM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: markman46

Gee I wish I had gone. I didn't see this thread until now. I love to go hang out with other Freepers.

BTW back in the 1960s we had a visiting pastor who had been to what was then Communist Russia. He smuggled out posters that made fun of Christ. My sister bought a set of them in postcard size. One of them, for example, was a poster of Christ turning the water into wine at the wedding, then getting drunk and throwing up. There area always posters and cartoons that make fun of USA, and Uncle Sam, and our flag, and our presidents, and our religions. We just don't go out and riot, burn, and destroy property over cartoons and posters. Doonesbury is pretty bad, making fun of conservatives, I just don't read it.


28 posted on 03/01/2006 8:53:29 AM PST by buffyt (America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people. Pres. George Bush)
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To: EternalVigilance

Clinton's grasp of Liberty - an actual float in a German parade

USA gets made fun of all the time everywhere and we just take it. But we can't make fun of anyone else?

29 posted on 03/01/2006 8:57:15 AM PST by buffyt (America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people. Pres. George Bush)
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To: Ladycalif

I notice signs that say "College Republicans are the new KKK." And also signs saying "Free speech is not hate speech." If hate speech is not allowed, how can they slam the college GOP kids as KKK?" That sure sounds like hate speech to me!


30 posted on 03/01/2006 9:30:49 AM PST by formercalifornian (One nation, under whatever popular fad comes to mind at the moment, indivisible...)
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To: Ladycalif

So, Mecha and the illegal hispanics are in solidarity with radical Islam? It appears to be from these pictures.


31 posted on 03/01/2006 10:10:57 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: Ladycalif

Those signs are hilariously stupid.

Muhommad Protector of Women & Islam Religion of Peace

Both signs should have had question marks after those words.


32 posted on 03/01/2006 10:49:46 AM PST by Feiny ( "Why don't we go up to the old people's home and wax the steps? " ~ Barney Fife)
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To: buffyt
i too wish I had gone also, and I am close to UCI, I work about i would guess 1/2 mile.Yes we(USA) is always made fun of and ridicule. but we never riot over the stuff, guess we are the grownups eh
33 posted on 03/01/2006 10:54:32 AM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Ladycalif
Thank you for the GREAT pictures, Ladycalif!
I did not see you there, but I was busy taking NOTES -- as you captured in your picture of me. :o)

34 posted on 03/01/2006 11:36:12 AM PST by RonDog
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To: Ladycalif; RonDog

Good work you two!

Question: there was a radio report on KRLA this morning regarding a heckler/disruptor, and some mention of the crowd outside. Can you give an AAR regarding any of this?

Wish I could have been there!


35 posted on 03/01/2006 11:37:48 AM PST by absalom01 (NRA,CRPA)
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To: RonDog
From www.dailypilot.com:

UCI event gets heated
Panel discussion on controversial cartoons draws protest from Muslim groups.
By Alicia Robinson
(Published: February 28, 2006)

Hundreds gathered, security was tight and tempers flared Tuesday at a UC Irvine discussion that displayed political cartoons that have set off demonstrations in Europe and the Middle East.

Inside the student center, the UCI chapter of the College Republicans and the United American Committee held a panel discussion about several cartoons and about whether American Muslims are doing enough to repudiate terrorism.

Among the cartoons was one from a Danish newspaper that depicts the prophet Muhammad wearing a turban with a bomb's lighted fuse coming out of it.

Outside, the school's Muslim Student Union organized a protest. The group had asked that the cartoons not be shown, fearing it would generate hatred against Muslims.

A crowd of several hundred people shouted in unison, criticizing Republicans and proclaiming the greatness of Muhammad.

"I do find it offensive, and not only because it's depicting Muhammad as a terrorist and all the connotations with that, but also it's perpetuating racism in Europe," said 21-year-old Suleman Ahmed, a student who was passing out fliers that urged people to "fight anti-Muslim racism on campus."

A discussion could have been held without including the cartoons, he said.

"They know this is an issue that's going to touch people personally," Ahmed said.

Campus police kept a close watch on the protesters and inside the event. At the student center's entrance, everyone was frisked before being admitted, and at least eight uniformed police officers kept order inside the filled auditorium.

The audience of about 350 people was noisy, clapping or yelling in response to the panelists and hecklers, and security escorted two people from the room.

The panelists were Ted Hayes, an activist on behalf of the homeless, Free Muslims Against Terrorism member Abed Jlelati, journalist Lee Kaplan, and conservative activist Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson.

Hayes, Kaplan and Peterson seemed to agree that Muslims need to do more to denounce terrorism before Americans should trust them.

"If they can protest us tonight, why can't they stand up and protest these radical, hateful, anti-God Muslims?" Peterson said.

He also said Islam is "an evil religion" that teaches that Christians and Jews are infidels who should be destroyed.

About the cartoon that included the depiction of a bomb, Hayes said, "That's not our image; the Muslims gave us that image themselves" by perpetrating suicide bombings.

Abed argued that Christians would be offended by a picture of Jesus being humiliated.

"It's the price we have to pay for freedom, and the price we have to pay sometimes is to be offended," Abed said.

He pleaded with the audience and other panelists not to paint all Muslims with the same brush and assume they're intolerant and anti-American.

Political science major Jessica Barnett, 19, came to the discussion, but she had misgivings about the cartoons being shown.

"On principle, yes, [it's OK to show them] but I still think it was bad," she said. "I understand why they felt like their religion is under attack."

After the discussion, student Eiman Behzadi, 23, was among the people standing outside watching the protesters. He said he wanted to see the talk but wasn't able to get in.

"I think it's good if people could rationally talk about it," he said.

Asked what he thought about the protest, Behzadi would only say, "I'm just curious as to what everybody here is thinking."

* EDITOR'S NOTE: To see the Danish cartoons, go to www.brusselsjournal.com/node/698. This Web address will take you outside the Daily Pilot's website.


36 posted on 03/01/2006 11:40:54 AM PST by RonDog
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To: absalom01
Question: there was a radio report on KRLA this morning regarding a heckler/disruptor...
There was one guy that tried several times to shout down the speakers on the panel.
Some of the (MANY) police officers present approached him -- but kept their distance...
...until ANOTHER member of the audience got out of his seat, and moved to confront the disruptor...
..at which point the police officers SPRANG into action...
...and quickly escorted to COUNTER-disruptor out of the auditorium!
MANY in the crowd started saying to the police officers, "You removed the WRONG GUY!"
Eventually, they also removed the RIGHT guy: the one who was the actual disruptor.

37 posted on 03/01/2006 11:47:58 AM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
From the Daily Pilot report:
The audience of about 350 people was noisy, clapping or yelling in response to the panelists and hecklers, and security escorted two people from the room...
Well, sort of.
See MY version of those events - above.

38 posted on 03/01/2006 11:49:43 AM PST by RonDog
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To: absalom01
some mention of the crowd outside...
Those guys were the REAL story!
Talk about your "hate speech" -- they were there to INTIMIDATE anyone who dared enter the venue...
...and they stuck around to harass us as we left after the event.
Fortunately, the security was VERY GOOD, and I saw no incidents -- before or after the event.

39 posted on 03/01/2006 11:53:14 AM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
Here is a SHORT EXCERPT from the L.A. Times:
...Protesters denounced the event, which was co-sponsored by a student Republican group, saying it would incite "Islamophobia" and offend local followers of Islam. The religion forbids any depictions of Muhammad.

Protesters gathered well before the 7 p.m. forum behind security barricades. They placed mats on the ground and held prayers. Later, they waved placards and shouted to those waiting to enter the auditorium.

"Hey, Republicans! Stop the hate. All you do is instigate!" the crowd shouted.

"Yes to Freedom of Speech, No to Hate Speech," a sign read.

Osman Umarji, former president of UCI's Muslim Student Union, compared the Muhammad cartoons to Nazi Germany illustrations that "denigrated and dehumanized" Jews.

Across from the Islamic demonstrators, about a dozen counter-protesters waved U.S. and Israeli flags and sang "God Bless America."

Ted Hayes, an activist for the homeless in Los Angeles and one of four panelists invited to speak at the forum, criticized the Muslim students.

"Why don't they protest against terrorism?" he shouted before entering the auditorium.

Other panelists included Abed A. Jlelati of Free Muslims Coalition; Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson, a conservative minister; and Lee Kaplan, spokesperson for the United American Committee, which co-sponsored the event with the campus College Republicans. The Council on American-Islamic Relations was invited but boycotted the event...

40 posted on 03/01/2006 11:57:59 AM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
From the Associated Press, via the Daily Breeze:
Originally published Wednesday, March 01, 2006
Updated Wednesday, March 01, 2006

UCI Muslims protest panel's cartoon unveiling

By Gillian Flaccus
The Associated Press

IRVINE -- Dozens of Muslim students and supporters protested Tuesday at the University of California, Irvine against plans by organizers of a panel discussion on Islamic extremism to show cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad wearing a bomb-laden turban.

Members of the Muslim Student Union gathered outside the auditorium where the panel convened. The Council on American-Islamic Relations -- an invited guest -- planned a boycott.

Two men were escorted out of the auditorium after the panel discussion began. One of them had been heckling panel members. When a second man angrily approached him, police made them leave the meeting.

The protest began when about 200 Muslim students, many wearing green armbands, placed mats on the barricaded street and said a prayer. When it ended, about 15 counterprotesters raised U.S. and Israeli flags, shouted "USA! USA!" and sang "God Bless America."

Thousands of Muslims worldwide have protested, sometimes violently, against the drawings after they were published in a Danish newspaper in September and then in other papers in Europe. The drawings are offensive to Muslims because Islamic tradition bans any depiction of Muhammad.


41 posted on 03/01/2006 12:04:49 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
From CNN.com:


Cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed
bring out protesters Tuesday
to a University of California, Irvine forum.

"Free HATE" ?

42 posted on 03/01/2006 12:10:02 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
From the Associated Press, via www.signonsandiego.com:
California campus riled by student panel discussing cartoons of Prophet Muhammad

ASSOCIATED PRESS

3:53 a.m. March 1, 2006

IRVINE – A student panel discussion that included a display of the Prophet Muhammad cartoons descended into chaos, with one speaker calling Islam an “evil religion” and audience members nearly coming to blows.

Organizers of Tuesday night's forum at the University of California, Irvine said they showed the cartoons as part of a larger debate on Islamic extremism.

But several hundred protesters, including members of the Muslim Student Union, argued the event was the equivalent of hate speech disguised as freedom of expression.

Although there were numerous heated exchanges, no violence was reported.

The panel, which included one Muslim speaker, was sponsored by the College Republicans and the United American Committee, a group that says it promotes awareness of internal threats facing America.

During the discussion in a nearly packed 424-seat campus auditorium, six cartoons were displayed: three depicting Muhammad and three anti-Semitic cartoons.

The discussion got off to a contentious start with the Council on American-Islamic Relations – an invited guest – boycotting the event and calling the United American Committee a “fringe group.”

Tensions quickly escalated when the Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson, founder of the conservative Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny, said that Islam was an “evil religion” and that all Muslims hate America.

People repeatedly interrupted the talk and, at one point, campus police removed two men, one of them a Muslim, after they nearly came to blows.

Later, panelists were cheered when they referred to Muslims as fascists and accused mainstream Muslim-American civil rights groups of being “cheerleaders for terror.”

“I put out a call to Muslims in America: Put out a fatwa on (Osama) bin Laden, put out a fatwa on (Abu Musab) al-Zarqawi,” said panelist Lee Kaplan, a UAC spokesman. “Support America in the war on terror.”

Thousands of Muslims worldwide have protested, sometimes violently, after the cartoons were published in a Danish newspaper and in other European newspapers. Islam widely holds that representations of Muhammad are banned for fear they could lead to idolatry.

Osman Umarji, former president of the Muslim Student Union, equated the decision by the student panel to display the prophet drawings to the debasement of Jews in Germany before the Holocaust.

“The agenda is to spread Islamophobia and create hysteria against Muslims similar to what happened to the Jews in Nazi Germany,” said Umarji, an electrical engineer who graduated from Irvine last spring. “Freedom of speech has its limits.”

Brock Hill, vice president of the College Republicans, said his group had a First Amendment right to display the cartoons.

“We're not going against Islam whatsoever,” he said. “This is about free speech and the free marketplace of ideas.”

Mohamed Eldessouky, 20, a criminology student who attended the discussion, said he was disappointed because he felt the panel and the audience were biased against Islam.

“I entered it with an open mind, but I thought it was totally biased. I thought the panelists would be more balanced. I think it did more harm than good,” he said.

Lauren Chramosta, 18, a freshman, said she didn't know much about Islam and attended hoping to learn more.

“It was helpful to listen to different views,” she said. “But I think (the Muslim panelist) was shut down so many times that he didn't get a fair shake.”


 On the Net:
United American Committee: www.unitedamericancommittee.org
Muslim Student Union: msu-uci.com
Council on American-Islamic Relations: www.cair-net.org
University of California, Irvine: www.uci.edu

Find this article at:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/20060301-0353-prophetdrawings-college.html


43 posted on 03/01/2006 12:16:39 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
IRVINE – A student panel discussion that included a display of the Prophet Muhammad cartoons descended into chaos, with one speaker calling Islam an “evil religion” and audience members nearly coming to blows...
Not hardly.
The guy who finally got tired of the police dithering around about ejecting the REAL disruptor didn't get within THIRTY FEET of the guy before the police jumped him, and escorted him out of the auditorium.
He was wrong to get involved, but he made NO threatening comments and NO menacing gestures.
He did nothing that could REMOTELY be described as "nearly coming to blows."

44 posted on 03/01/2006 12:23:35 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
Indexing RELATED threads:
Students protest cartoon display
(UC Irvine event coverage)

  Posted by Dark Skies
On News/Activism 03/01/2006 5:59:26 AM PST · 13 replies · 273+ views


The Monterey Herald (CA) ^ | 3/1/2006 | GILLIAN FLACCUS
 

Plan to Show Danish Prophet Cartoons Riles UC Irvine Campus
(Story of the Day! Thread)

  Posted by Dark Skies
On News/Activism 02/28/2006 5:38:54 PM PST · 38 replies · 633+ views


Associated Press (via local ABC TV) ^ | 2/28/2006 | AP Staff
 

Controversial Cartoons Debut at UC Irvine
[Orange County, CA - TONIGHT! Tuesday, 2/28/06 - 7 pm]

  Posted by RonDog
On News/Activism 02/28/2006 1:09:24 PM PST · 43 replies · 801+ views


ABC 7.com ^ | February 28, 2006 | ABC News

45 posted on 03/01/2006 12:32:52 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
See also THIS thread:
Cartoons bring debate to UCI (pics)
  Posted by Ladycalif
On News/Activism 03/01/2006 6:11:09 AM PST · 19 replies · 532+ views


Orange County Register ^

46 posted on 03/01/2006 12:37:49 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog

A reminder that conservative organizers should always have a video camera or two pointed at audiences when they put these things on.


47 posted on 03/01/2006 3:49:25 PM PST by formercalifornian (One nation, under whatever popular fad comes to mind at the moment, indivisible...)
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To: formercalifornian
As I understand it, we DO have video from this event -- shot by OUR people -- soon to be released on DVD, I think. :o)
48 posted on 03/01/2006 4:14:20 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
See also THESE threads:
Showing of cartoons of Muhammad riles Calif. campus
  Posted by SmithL
On News/Activism 02/28/2006 9:31:24 PM PST · 44 replies · 1,160+ views


AP ^ | 2/28/6 | GILLIAN FLACCUS
 

Muhammad Cartoons Rile California College
  Posted by NewLand
On News/Activism 03/01/2006 6:07:38 AM PST · 44 replies · 791+ views


AP ^ | March 1, 2006 | GILLIAN FLACCUS

49 posted on 03/01/2006 4:21:05 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog

My neighbor just called...saw me on channel 7 news tonight.


50 posted on 03/01/2006 5:15:35 PM PST by Ladycalif (She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain. -- Louisa May Alcott)
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